Warner Bros. Reimagining Sherlock Holmes

[Infinity9999x]

I think the BBC is doing an actual modern day Holmes TV series. I don't know who plays Holmes, but I do know Martin Freeman plays Watson.

Now that's interesting. I'm sorry to hear you don't like House. It really is a fantastic show. I can see how the medical stuff could hit too close to home for you though.

But if you watch the show, you learn througout it a lot of the reasons House is the way he is. Also, the new season has been great because House is actually getting better. Slowly of course (baby steps) but it's been a refreshing change.

I more or less view House as the way Holmes would be in the modern day. Yes, House is ten times more rude, but we have to remember that Holmes lived in the age of ridiculous over-politeness. Everything was restricted in the Victorian era, so I would account House's rudeness in the modern day similar to Holmes' own eccentricities in the Victorian age.

 

[Lighthouse]

I loved the movie, but when rolling over ideas in my head for the sequel, I came up with this: we see Moriarty, but he somehow gives the impression to holmes that he is not as capable a fighter, even intentionally taking a beating. Then, when going mano a mano with Holmes, he reveals his true fighting skills. As brilliant as Holmes is, do you think this is a good way to fool him, or would he most likely tell that Moriarty threw the first fight?

I was thinking this because the bar has to be set very high if Holmes is going to be fooled and have the audience buy it.

Truthfully, I don't think Holmes and Moriarty will fight till the end of the film, and I'm quite sure that the filmmakers will pull straight from the Final Problem, and have the big fight be at Reichenbach Falls. And it's going to be one helluva fight.

Here is a pic of Sidney Paget's Moriarty.

The one character I'd really love to see in the next movie is Sherlock's brother Mycroft. Mycroft is much better at deduction then Sherlock is, and I'd love to see them cast a really well known actor that RDJ could just chew scenery with. It'd be fun to see them bicker.

 

[Rishi]

Saw it earlier today

It was... okay. Not bad, but not good either. The only thing that I actually liked about the movie was the scenes where he would calculate his next moves, and then carry them out. Other htan that it was very been there done that for me.

I'll see the sequel, but my hopes aren't high. Which is a good thing, I guess. 7/10

 

[That-Guy]

This provides an answer.



No means Brad Pitt.

It sounded like him doing a British accent.

I don't know about that... when I saw the film, I listened specifically to see if I could hear a trace of Pitt's voice in that accent and it didn't sound like him to me. He did a British accent in Troy and you could still hear traces of his voice there. He may have perfected it since then but I still think you'd be able to tell that it was him, if it in fact, was. Of course, they could have altered it.

 

[Octoberist]

unless they altered his voice, that was not brad.

 

[Kent]

The one character I'd really love to see in the next movie is Sherlock's brother Mycroft. Mycroft is much better at deduction then Sherlock is, and I'd love to see them cast a really well known actor that RDJ could just chew scenery with. It'd be fun to see them bicker.

Jeffrey Dean Morgan for Mycroft!

 

[BlackLantern]

Jeffrey Dean Morgan for Mycroft!

can he even do an accent??

 

[Lighthouse]

Jeffrey Dean Morgan for Mycroft!

Morgan kind of looks like an older, shaggier version of RDJ's Holmes. That could be interesting.

 

[블라스]

I don't know if I'd go with JDM...
Mycroft is not supposed to be shaggy looking, and he's supposed to be quite a bit larger than Sherlock. I don't want him to basically be an older and larger RDJ, I want him to look extremely classy and polite (nice contrast with RDJ's Sherlock), and definitely very smart.

Here's how Sidney Paget drew him:

My choice?

Spoiler

Stephen Fry.

 

[Figs]

I'm not familiar with Mycroft but looking at that drawing you posted...Stephen Fry seems like a pretty damn good choice.

 

[BlackLantern]

I second that...Mycroft Holmes is NOT a man of action, at all....ever

he has a position in the British government but its never really specified where or what his function is

 

[Two-Face]

Saw it today, very good film from start to finish


Need a sequel, I want to see again.

 

[Kent]

can he even do an accent??

If what RDJ is doing in this is considered acceptable I'm sure JDM could pull off something of equal quality.

As for if he's too shaggy or whatever... I always thought "shaggyness" was a something determined by what you tell your barber to do when you visit him. Hardly a problem.

My main reasons for chosing JDM for Mycroft are his facial resemblance to RDJ (he looks a lot like him), and the fact that he's a notably larger man than RDJ.

Comparing to an illustration of Mycroft might be interesting, but RDJ hardly qualifies as looking as Sherlock either, so...

 

[BlackLantern]

If what RDJ is doing in this is considered acceptable I'm sure JDM could pull off something of equal quality.

Actually Guy Ritchie and the members of the production crew that are English think his accent is great

and Mycroft is a government beaurucrat (I think) and as the above illustration suggests, is not shaggy

 

[Kent]

Actually Guy Ritchie and the members of the production crew that are English think his accent is great

I'm sure great promotion for the flick would be for Guy Ritchie and his crew to go out and tell the world that RDJ has an iffy English accent.

and Mycroft is a government beaurucrat (I think) and as the above illustration suggests, is not shaggy

If only someone would invent the shave and the haircut.

 

[KenK]

Actually Guy Ritchie and the members of the production crew that are English think his accent is great

and Mycroft is a government beaurucrat (I think) and as the above illustration suggests, is not shaggy

There are a number of accents that you find in the UK and just in London alone, so whatever RDJ did could have been very close to one of them.

 

[zeptron]

Haven't seen this yet so I was wondering does someone actually say "No **** Sherlock." in this?

 

[BlackLantern]

There are a number of accents that you find in the UK and just in London alone, so whatever RDJ did could have been very close to one of them.

I didn't realize until recently how much an accent can change between people raised 10 minutes apart in a place like London or Seven Oaks

 

[Infinity9999x]

I'm sure great promotion for the flick would be for Guy Ritchie and his crew to go out and tell the world that RDJ has an iffy English accent.

Honestly, I get a little tired of people complaining about accents. I think you could get an all British cast to perform a play in Britain, but if you tell the audience that the cast is American or any other nationality, they'll complain about how the accents are unauthentic.

Now, sometimes the accents really are bad, but honestly I thought RDJ did a fine job. Nothing enough to be noticeable.

 

[VenomVsSpidey]

Haven't seen this yet so I was wondering does someone actually say "No **** Sherlock." in this?

I effing wish

 

[That-Guy]

Honestly, I get a little tired of people complaining about accents. I think you could get an all British cast to perform a play in Britain, but if you tell the audience that the cast is American or any other nationality, they'll complain about how the accents are unauthentic.

Now, sometimes the accents really are bad, but honestly I thought RDJ did a fine job. Nothing enough to be noticeable.

Agreed. I'm not English but I've played an Englishman on stage more than once, worked with English actors, and spent time in London. I still wouldn't call myself an expert but regardless... RDJ sounded fine to me. It amazes me that a proven actor like RDJ gets crap from "experts" on message boards... particularly on this one, where everybody praises the crap out of a novice like Sam Worthington, a guy who can't do an American accent to save his friggin' life.

 

[BlackLantern]

Agreed. I'm not English but I've played an Englishman on stage more than once, worked with English actors, and spent time in London. I still wouldn't call myself an expert but regardless... RDJ sounded fine to me. It amazes me that a proven actor like RDJ gets crap from "experts" on message boards... particularly on this one, where everybody praises the crap out of a novice like Sam Worthington, a guy who can't do an American accent to save his friggin' life.

that kangaroo ****er is 0-2 right now with me.....his career track is echoing that of Vin Diesels

 

[TruerToTheCore]

The English RDJ speaks didn't EXIST in the 20th century.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Agreed. I'm not English but I've played an Englishman on stage more than once, worked with English actors, and spent time in London. I still wouldn't call myself an expert but regardless... RDJ sounded fine to me. It amazes me that a proven actor like RDJ gets crap from "experts" on message boards... particularly on this one, where everybody praises the crap out of a novice like Sam Worthington, a guy who can't do an American accent to save his friggin' life.

 

[BlackLantern]

The English RDJ speaks didn't EXIST in the 20th century.

a lot of movies set in the 20th Century have "incorrect" language...I can say that some of the things he says to Watson are out of the books/stories though