WB/DC: It's All Part Of The Plan

[KobiKai]

Just throwin this out there but if Hulk is a huge success then could this affect their decision on a sequel?

Truthfully everyone here suspects if there was going to be a sequel it would already be happening. Saying that though if the hulk does well they might give a reboot a try, wouldn't hold my breath though

 

[superbaby]

If they're still thinking sequel, then it's clear that they don't.

sequel or not... i just hope that they would kick singer out. though he has the passion but it's a wicked type.

 

[mego joe]

sequel or not... i just hope that they would kick singer out. though he has the passion but it's a wicked type.

His passion isn't for the character though, it's for the old films and his craptacular vision.

 

[VenomsMom]

Whatever new writers they bring in certainly have a dubious task ahead of them.

 

[Showtime]

The DVD Sales above were as of January-February of 07, so I imagine it has risen a bit since then.

 

[superbaby]

His passion isn't for the character though, it's for the old films and his craptacular vision.

i'm a superman fan because of the donner's superman films too.
it's his 'craptacular' vision that need to be stopped.

 

[The Guard]

Completely missing the point, no one mentioned that the studios didn't care about world estimated figures. The point is that every one here is a amateur making wildly inaccurate assumptions about thing they couldn't even begin to take in to account. It's not an insult but the truth WW figures never accurately portray how much was made in the foreign markets and budget's are only known to the money men. If people are going to compare then they should only compare with the facts they know and that is the US box office figure which are accurate to the penny.

The website which had the $270m budget also had the WW figure on, you can't pick the good parts and ignore the bad.

P.S I know i'm as amateurish as everyone else before anyone says

There are multiple sources for both box office and budget. This isn't stuff that's entirely guessed at.

 

[Showtime]

So you're willing to accept the estimated WW figure but unwilling to accept the estimated budjet? Smacks a bit like double standards to me.

Where did I say I accepted the WW Box Office? How can it be a double standard if I didn't even comment on it? There have been articles after article talking about 204 Million or 209 Million explaining that 270 Million included previous attempts. It's not a double standard, it is fact...

The US box office is the only accurate judge on how well this movie did money wise, whatever the budget it falls behind Iron Man & Batman Begins. My own personal opinion and from the stories emanating out of the WB, all the SR obsessives should stick to that $270m because $300 is nearer the mark. But i'll repeat only the US box office is a true refection on how well a movie did, popularity-wise not profit

So now you're saying the budget for Superman Returns was closer to 300 Million? Heh Heh.

 

[Showtime]

That's what I was thinking Show. They would have to know what they want for the sequel to be getting so much "movement" right now.

Why are you asking me? Why don't you go to SaveSuperman.com where you get all your info?

 

[KobiKai]

Where did I say I accepted the WW Box Office? How can it be a double standard if I didn't even comment on it? There have been articles after article talking about 204 Million or 209 Million explaining that 270 Million included previous attempts. It's not a double standard, it is fact...



So now you're saying the budget for Superman Returns was closer to 300 Million? Heh Heh.

Nothing you have said is a fact and i gave an opinion of the budget based on the promotion, leaked stories and Singers reputation for going well over budget. You told someone they were wrong for guessing a $270m budget then announced 204-209 was the true figure, sorry but you don't know and neither do they so why argue.
This place seams to be a respectful place with minimal arguing but come on, people here are arguing over stupid things that cannot be proven or disproven by us anyway. Logic sugests that if a movie was made for £200m and made $400m back it would have a sequel by now,something doesn't add up

 

[superbaby]

SaveSuperman.com ???

heading to it now!

 

[Showtime]

Nothing you have said is a fact and i gave an opinion of the budget based on the promotion, leaked stories and Singers reputation for going well over budget. You told someone they were wrong for guessing a $270m budget then announced 204-209 was the true figure, sorry but you don't know and neither do they so why argue.
This place seams to be a respectful place with minimal arguing but come on, people here are arguing over stupid things that cannot be proven or disproven by us anyway. Logic sugests that if a movie was made for £200m and made $400m back it would have a sequel by now,something doesn't add up

Where did I say that "I know"? As I already pointed out the budget has been written about all over the internet on websites including Variety and Hollywood Reporter. You however must know more then said websites though?

Well if you know so much about budgets you would know that 400 Million isn't profit obviously so of course it doesnt add up?

That being said, this thread isn't about the budget or box office of Superman Returns so we can stop talking about it now, so you don't have to participate in arguing about "stupid things".

 

[KobiKai]

That being said, this thread isn't about the budget or box office of Superman Returns so we can stop talking about it now, so you don't have to participate in arguing about "stupid things".

Fine with me

 

[AragornKing1]

You were being sarcastic, right?

No, I wasn't being sarcastic.

 

[AragornKing1]

Why are you asking me? Why don't you go to SaveSuperman.com where you get all your info?

Show, I wasn't being sarcastic. I was agreeing with you.

 

[Excel]

The film didnt cost 270 million. Theres no way in hell it was mroe expensive than abrams superman script woulda been, which had a 225 million budget.

 

[hippie_hunter]

You've also got to take a look at the money WB made from licensing/merchandise, DVD sales, selling the cable rights to FX, etc. WB made money on Superman Returns without a doubt.

 

[superbaby]

You've also got to take a look at the money WB made from licensing/merchandise, DVD sales, selling the cable rights to FX, etc. WB made money on Superman Returns without a doubt.

enough money or not is another question though.

 

[FilmNerdJamie]

MOS will be a different looking sequel and yes The Incredible Hulk is not a sequel.

Again I think when TMOS comes out in 2010, the comparison will be more to Rambo: First Blood Part II than Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan.

In that beyond the returning cast and their characters, the style and tone will be vastly different from what was previously established.

 

[Ultimate_Superman]

I think the WB should just move forward with Man of Steel with Singer but have DC Comics more involved then they were with Returns and have more action and fix Lex a little bit. If they do all of that then they will be fine. Superman Returns was not that bad of a movie; and was not that far off from being a great movie. Had it had more action I think the sequel would have been coming out next year instead of 2 years from now.

 

[Showtime]

Again I think when TMOS comes out in 2010, the comparison will be more to Rambo: First Blood Part II than Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan.

In that beyond the returning cast and their characters, the style and tone will be vastly different from what was previously established.

Alien and Aliens also comes to mind.

 

[FilmNerdJamie]

Alien and Aliens also comes to mind.

Nice. I forgot about them. Yeah, those too!

 

[Showtime]

Nice. I forgot about them. Yeah, those too!

Heck. STM and Superman 2.

 

[FilmNerdJamie]

Heck. STM and Superman 2.

Can't agree on that one, buddy. The tone and style between them weren't that different. Although there were certainly differences and what not.

 

[Showtime]

Can't agree on that one, buddy. The tone and style between them weren't that different. Although there were certainly differences and what not.

I disagree, the tone of Superman 2 was much different because of Lester.