You clearly didn't read what I said, or understand it, since you're saying I said things I either never claimed to, or specifically clarified that I meant something different than you and others may haven taken some comments.
Heh, yes I have read it, but you keep talking in absolutes, without anything to back up your claims. Telling people that they're wrong because the movie said so(when it hasn't), or that you've heard it straight from Nolan's mouth(which I haven't seen any quote to show otherwise, other than your own made up loose connections), is very misleading. You're the one who said it a few posts above. I'm talking about this conjecture that you keep emphasizing that you're not making up, when all you're giving off is some interpretation. Why do you think people are saying that to begin with?
Lets proceed....
The film directly tells us Bane tried joining the league when Talia was around 12, for instance. It thus is told to the viewer, as I keep saying, in the film, that Bane's ideals and values parelled the league of shadows. Do you suppose both characters being asked to join the league and one saying yes and one saying no is merely a coincidence? Once again, Nolan's said in most interviews (and the one you listened to), Bane's a foil of Bruce. Bruce wanted to join the league so people like his parents couldn't be hurt. Bane wanted to join so people like Talia couldn't be. I don't know how I could be any clearer about this, or how the film could be.
See, it's posts like this that you keep making. Nowhere in the movie was this told to us. This is where your interpretations are running wild. In fact, it says that "Ra's saved us in the pit....the LOS took us in and trained us". Nowhere does it say that Bane had a compulsive desire to join the LOS to save the innocent, it just said that Ra's saved them and took them in. Unless you're thinking about what one of the prisoners said to Bruce, about Bane saving the innocent(Talia) for their redemption? Which was clearly saying that if Talia gets out of prison, then so could the prisoners - ie. she's their redemption to freedom. Which it also cuts to her making the escape, and the prisoners were able to be freed because of it. If he was all about saving the innocent, why did he not lift a finger for Talia's mother? And furthermore, the movie even says that Bane was excommunicated because Ra's saw him "as a monster who can never be tamed". Ra's wasn't thinking that Bane was trying to save the innocent, in fact, much the opposite. That's the very reason why he was kicked out, because Ra's knew he was a loose cannon. Bruce on the other hand, was not, although, he declined the opportunity in BB.
Also, Bane's motivations aren't exactly clear other than what he tells Bruce when he said, "I never escaped - Ra's al Ghul rescued me. That's why I must fulfill his plan. That is why I must avenge his murderer". This doesn't prove that his or Talia's ideals are the same as the LOS, because like I said earlier, the LOS wanted to destroy Gotham due to its corrupt nature, which Ra's felt needed to be destroyed. If it wasn't for Bane and Talia coming to Gotham, the city would still be at peace, so this is complete opposite of what the LOS was about. Talia and Bane just wanted to fulfill Ra's destiny and seek revenge on his killer, even though it went against his ideals. If there ideals paralleled the LOS, they wouldn't be there in the first place, as their plans are in direct opposite of what Ra's or the LOS stood for. So unless you heard it from Nolan's mouth, then he either screwed up(which he's done a few times in this movie), or your interpreting it that way, even though BB told us differently.
Lastly, yes, absolutely, a major point of the twist was to humanize Bane. We see him getting incredibly emotional merely remembering the sacrifice he made for her. We're told halfway through the film the 'protector' saw this girl and wanted to protect her, fight for her, and wanted everyone else in the prison to do the same. She became his way for redemption. He was trying to improve himself and was willing to die for this ideal. It wasn't Talia as a person he wanted to save, it was her innocence. Again, we're told this directly halfway through the movie through dialogue. This tells us, again directly, that Bane's main motive/goal in life is to fight for and protect an innocent person from the 'evils' of the world, even to the point of being willing to die for it.
And again, you're making loose connections. Just because he loved Talia and wanted to protect
one single person, doesn't mean his goal was to protect innocent people. Again, why didn't he protect Talia's innocent mother? And like I quoted above, it shows us that Bane was much too monstrous to even stay in the LOS. Far from being this humble servant that must fight for the innocent, like you keep alluding to. He just happened to love one innocent person, who of course, was Talia.
And yes, I understand that part of the twist humanized Bane, but that wasn't the point of the twist, nor does it show us that he was trying to protect the innocent other than Talia.
It's taking what Nolan's said and combining it with information given in the film itself.
No, you're not, you're coming up with some abstract interpretation, and then proceeding to tell people they're wrong, because of what you apparently read/heard Nolan say, when you haven't even come close to backing your claims. I don't care if people interpret the movie whichever way they see fit, but to come in and tell people they're wrong, because of some supposed quotes you read, or saying that your interpretation is right because of how you see it, isn't really right.
@batlobster, I never denied that there are parallels to Bane and Bruce. Hell, there's even more in the comics. What I'm saying, is that not everything that vader has said has been shown to be factual or authentic, other than his own interpretation of things. Are there parallels? Yes, I've already said so. Are they exactly how he said it? I don't see how. Bane is almost no different than how Ra's was portrayed in BB, other than some slight differences, and even Nolan said in the interview, that the parallels for Bane and Bruce are almost identical to that of Ra's. He did say The Joker was completely opposite of Bane and Ra's. He even went on to use the old "ying to his yang" analogy.
