What is DC Entertainment doing? What is their plan? - Part 1

Right, because they wouldn't recast Wonder Woman if they felt the actress currently playing the character wasn't a good fit, they'd just decide not to make a movie about the character and forgo all those hundreds of millions of dollars of potential profit.
 
Would like Snyder and Terrio to make the WW movie.Of course that means getting a new team for MOS 2.Any suggestions
 
Can't believe they didn't announce any future plans for the DCCU. It's still unbelievable to me that they still can't commit to a long term goal with these characters. If they had anything, you bet your ass it would've been shown at the Con Panel. The fact that it was nothing but Dawn of Justice is bad news.
 
Can someone tell me what the plan is? I can't keep up in the BvS forums. Justice League has been confirmed for 2017 and nothing else is planned for the big screen beyond that? When will it be released?
 
Can't believe they didn't announce any future plans for the DCCU. It's still unbelievable to me that they still can't commit to a long term goal with these characters. If they had anything, you bet your ass it would've been shown at the Con Panel. The fact that it was nothing but Dawn of Justice is bad news.
I too am extremely dissapointed. I mean, they didn't announce ANYTHING. Lol I can't believe it.
 
Can't believe they didn't announce any future plans for the DCCU. It's still unbelievable to me that they still can't commit to a long term goal with these characters. If they had anything, you bet your ass it would've been shown at the Con Panel. The fact that it was nothing but Dawn of Justice is bad news.

I don't know but to me this was kinda obvious. Their plans crashed and burned with the GL movie. The new Plannning seems to have started on the Monday after MoS hit cinemas and the financial success of the movie was apparent.

The delay and other production hiccups of BvS seem to be the result of this.

The planning seems to still be in flux at least somewhat. I think the way BvS performs will have a hughe impact on the entire thing.
 
It's BvS. It's obviously going to perform. Marvel is planned through 2019 and DC is still scared to announced a Shazaam movie with one of the most marketable actors on the planet. It's pathetic. If you're gonna have a connected universe they need to plotted well in advance. You can't just go movie-to-movie.
 
It's BvS. It's obviously going to perform. Marvel is planned through 2019 and DC is still scared to announced a Shazaam movie with one of the most marketable actors on the planet. It's pathetic. If you're gonna have a connected universe they need to plotted well in advance. You can't just go movie-to-movie.

I concur but the question is how well. Good, very good, great, amazin, or spectacular.

Since this is backwards from the Marvel approach I do not think they will wait for a movie before they commit to the next but this and the following JL movie give them room to show of their entire product line cast of characters.

DoJ seems to develop into a prequel for a JL movie so I think this will influence how much money is spent on the DCU and on its structure.

I mean Marvel suddenly dropped IM 2 in response to the IM performance. Since DC gets their "Avengers" first the influence of this film upon the rest of the DCU can in my eyes not be underestimated.
 
It's BvS. It's obviously going to perform. Marvel is planned through 2019 and DC is still scared to announced a Shazaam movie with one of the most marketable actors on the planet. It's pathetic. If you're gonna have a connected universe they need to plotted well in advance. You can't just go movie-to-movie.

I'm not so sure about that. Man of Steel wasn't a bad movie, just wasn't the Superman we all know but it kind of under performed due to be supposedly the biggest superhero ever. $700 WW(though a hit)shouldn't be Superman numbers. Plus the biggest thing is it's going against Captain America 3. I know BvS will win that weekend but Cap is going to cut into those numbers and if WB is banking so much on this film(which they clearly are since they didn't announce anything)and Marvel cuts into their money a lot(say what you will but TWS is critically and financially acclaimed)then DCU is going to go back to the drawing board. I don't think it's going to fail but just not sure it's going to be this monster that people think it is unless one of them moves from that date. Disney knows how to promote a movie and I am not counting them out at all.
 
They may not want to commit to any specific solo films until they see how the individual heroes are received. BvS could be seen as a trial run for Wonder Woman/Cyborg/etc.
 
They may not want to commit to any specific solo films until they see how the individual heroes are received. BvS could be seen as a trial run for Wonder Woman/Cyborg/etc.

Pretty much what I suspect its happening and it pisses me off.Marvel didnt get to where they are with a wait and see approach
 
One complaint I'm sick of hearing is that WB shouldn't be criticized for not utilizing their DC properties since they are such a large movie studio; they clearly have a lot of other plates to juggle and other films to make, so we shouldn't be upset that they haven't to many noteworthy things with superheroes in recent years.
It's said all the time around this forum, and it's complete nonsense no matter how you look at it. They have the rights to some of the most iconic characters in the world, all the money at their disposal to make those movies as solid as possible, a built-in fanbase who would see the movie's countless times in theaters, and yet they've been sitting on their thumbs in recent years and simply reacting to other studios success with superhero movies.
I think the Green Lantern debacle might be partially why they're hesitant to get back into the game, but that was their fault for thinking they could churn out such a lifeless product and just expect the money to come piling in.
 
I can't believe it's been a year since Superman/Batman movie has been announced.

One year later they revealed a pic of Wonder Woman.

Perhaps in 2015 SDC they will announce the rest of their plans.

Dawn of Justice is still 2 years away so they don't want to reveal too much as of yet.
 
One complaint I'm sick of hearing is that WB shouldn't be criticized for not utilizing their DC properties since they are such a large movie studio; they clearly have a lot of other plates to juggle and other films to make, so we shouldn't be upset that they haven't to many noteworthy things with superheroes in recent years.
It's said all the time around this forum, and it's complete nonsense no matter how you look at it. They have the rights to some of the most iconic characters in the world, all the money at their disposal to make those movies as solid as possible, a built-in fanbase who would see the movie's countless times in theaters, and yet they've been sitting on their thumbs in recent years and simply reacting to other studios success with superhero movies.
I think the Green Lantern debacle might be partially why they're hesitant to get back into the game, but that was their fault for thinking they could churn out such a lifeless product and just expect the money to come piling in.
That's what I don't get. Disney is in the same boat but yet they are pushing Marvel products out like crazy. It's amazing how people seem to make excuse for WB. I will say that their tv stuff is on point though. Arrow, Flash and now Constatine. Not sure if they will all be tied together but they are killing it on tv. I can't believe Marvel only has Agents of SHIELD on. That show is crap! There I said it!
I can't believe it's been a year since Superman/Batman movie has been announced.

One year later they revealed a pic of Wonder Woman.

Perhaps in 2015 SDC they will announce the rest of their plans.

Dawn of Justice is still 2 years away so they don't want to reveal too much as of yet.

Yeah I don't know why it's taking so long to make this movie but maybe they are just trying to get it right. I still say that Wonder Woman isn't the key to this movie. The character really hasn't been in the public since the 70's and the GA only know limited info about her, particularly what Linda Carter did for her. Heck most comic book fans don't know a lot about her because even in the comics they can't get her right. I still think that if done right, GL could be their Iron Man and Flash could be their Spiderman.
 
Superman vs. Batman? DC's Real Battle Is How to Create Its Superhero Universe
Warner Bros. is employing a different strategy than Marvel as it hires five writers for 'Wonder Woman,' has no clear leader and deals with new frustrations in its struggles to craft a compelling 10-movie world.
Kim Masters said:
This story first appeared in the May 8 issue of The Hollywood Reporter magazine.

When Warner Bros. CEO Kevin Tsujihara took the stage at the annual CinemaCon gathering of theater owners April 21, he reiterated what has become the studio's mantra for the next five to seven years: Warners will build its slate around The Lego Movie sequels and offshoots, J.K. Rowling's Fantastic Beasts trilogy and no fewer than 10 movies based on DC Comics characters through 2020.

With the March opening of Zack Snyder's Batman v. Superman: Dawn of Justice many months off (an ominous teaser trailer debuted to a mixed response April 17 and racked up 47 million YouTube views during its first week), it's obviously too early to know whether Warners can execute a series of interlocking tentpoles based in the DC universe. But with the stakes very high, Wall Street and Hollywood are asking: Can all the cooks in the studio's kitchen create films featuring Batman, Wonder Woman and even Aquaman and the Flash to rival the nearly $7 billion in global box office Disney's Marvel Studios has generated from nine films since 2008, including Iron Man, Thor and Guardians of the Galaxy? Plus, the May 1 release of Avengers: Age of Ultron is sure to bring in another $1 billion.

"Marvel has been an unbelievable platform for Disney to build and foster franchises," says BTIG analyst Richard Greenfield. "The question for Warners is, can they replicate that strategy using DC?" No one doubts the value of the DC intellectual property, but as analyst Michael Nathanson of MoffettNathanson observes, "It's all in the execution."

In the early going, some in Hollywood are questioning whether Warners has acted too much in haste without having fleshed out the world on which so much hinges. Grumbling among talent reps came especially in response to the studio's strategy of hiring five writers to compete for a job on Wonder Woman, which has a June 2017 release date. On Aquaman, set for 2018, sources say Warners commissioned scripts from three writers, one of whom followed the studio's direction only to be told the rules governing the universe had changed and his work no longer was usable. Another writer has been on hold for the film for months as the studio works to define its vision. "They just haven't been thorough about their whole world and how each character fits and how to get the most out of each writer's time by giving them direction," says a rep with knowledge of the process. "Obviously, Marvel's very good at that."

A Warners insider acknowledges that the studio's approach on Wonder Woman, set to star Gal Gadot (who will be introduced in Batman v. Superman), has been "unorthodox," but he says Warners is developing its own "filmmaker-driven" strategy in contrast with Marvel, which generally is ruled by producer Kevin Feige and which has hired such untested directors as Joss Whedon (The Avengers), Joe and Anthony Russo (Captain America: The Winter Soldier and two planned Avengers movies) and James Gunn (Guardians). Further, he says Warners has great confidence in its intellectual property, as do even those outsiders who have questioned the studio's actions.

In October, Warners trotted out Snyder, 49, and Batman v. Superman stars Ben Affleck and Henry Cavill at a dinner for analysts in New York before the company's investor-day conference. Snyder presented his vision for the film, and Nathanson says he found it "very impressive." The following day, Tsujihara laid out his plan that resembles the silo approach that has worked so well for Disney with its Marvel, Pixar and Disney Studios brands and with Star Wars movies to come from Lucasfilm.

But exactly who is in charge of the DC universe remains blurry. Snyder, now finishing Batman v. Superman, is a key player, along with his wife, Debbie. Also in the mix are producer Charles Roven and a team of Warners executives, including president of creative development and worldwide production Greg Silverman and executive vp Jon Berg as well as DC Entertainment president Diane Nelson and DC chief creative officer Geoff Johns. In addition, various filmmakers will over*see individual movies, with Fury director David Ayer said to be given broad creative control over next summer's hero team-up film Suicide Squad.

Without a single guiding force like the 41-year-old Feige, sources say Warners has leaned on Snyder to help play out the parameters for other DC movies. Snyder laid the groundwork for the new universe with 2013's Superman reboot Man of Steel ($668 million worldwide), produced with previous Batman director Christopher Nolan, who no longer is involved in any*thing DC-related beyond an executive producer credit on Batman v Superman. But Snyder has been busy with Batman v. Superman, which has a budget said to be well more than $200 million. "You can't just give it to a filmmaker," says a Marvel insider. "You have to give it to someone who has an institutional knowledge of these characters."

On Wonder Woman, Warners hired five writers not to work together but to compete. Each was given a treatment and asked to write a first act. Based on those efforts, the studio winnowed the number to two: Jason Fuchs (Pan) and another writer whose name the studio declines to reveal. A source not involved in the films but with close ties to the studio says the process on Wonder Woman "felt like they were throwing **** against the wall to see what stuck."

Before the five writers were brought aboard, sources say Roven asked Kelly Marcel (Fifty Shades of Grey, Saving Mr. Banks) to work on the script, though a Warners insider says she was never officially hired. Sources say she decided not to proceed based on her concern about the number of players who were involved — particularly when Warners hired director Michelle MacLaren, whose vision contrasted sharply with Marcel's. MacLaren subsequently left the project and was replaced quickly by Patty Jenkins, who, ironically, had been dropped by Marvel on Thor: The Dark World after being heralded as the studio's first female director.

Warners has had several writers pen scripts for Aquaman, set to star Jason Momoa, who will feature in November 2017's Justice League movie. Those writers include Will Beall, Jeff Nichols and Kurt Johnstad, who now is on hold until the studio is ready to proceed. Warners' Silverman will say only that "we're on track to deliver a slate of films that will delight audiences everywhere thanks to the efforts of the many exceptionally talented people invested in the success of this universe." But Nathanson is prepared to wait and see how the films turn out. "Embedded in my earnings forecast [for Time Warner] is some estimate of success for DC, but I would say we're conservative in our outlook," he says. "I'm not giving anyone credit for a movie until we see the product."
 
They are trying to rush things too fast. But too late to complain about it now..just have to wait and see how BvS goes. If it bombs the entire thing may be scrapped...which would be sad because it looks like they finally got Batman right.
 
They are trying to rush things too fast. But too late to complain about it now..just have to wait and see how BvS goes. If it bombs the entire thing may be scrapped...which would be sad because it looks like they finally got Batman right.

It won't bomb at the box office even if critics trash it. Just based on how international markets keep expanding by the month, I think BvS is pretty much a lock for $1 billion worldwide.
 
It will make that fairly easy. I don't even think its got much competition for a while.
 
Yeah, I think $1B is a no brainer at this point due to it being their first time on the screen together. My thing is, I don't think the sequel will make as much because they are trying way to hard to make their universe dark. I have a 5 year old daughter and I may regret this but I plan to take her to see this in theaters. Not sure how dark it is but been debating it but will take her and I'm not even that type of parent. I can only imagine how over protective parents will react. I don't think the sequel will do as well as BvS.
 
The sequel to BvS? You mean JL?
 
Yeah. I don't think JLA will do $1B with them pushing everything dark.
 
The weird thing is, it seems like they're rushing everything, but this is the 3rd or 4th time they've tried to rush out the same slate of films. It's been going on since the early 2000s when Marvel first started putting out movies (pre-marvel studios). I've lost track of thee amount of times characters like Wonder Woman & Flash have been in & out of production. Which is why the likelyhood of this current slate actually happening is pretty slim.
 
The weird thing is, it seems like they're rushing everything, but this is the 3rd or 4th time they've tried to rush out the same slate of films. It's been going on since the early 2000s when Marvel first started putting out movies (pre-marvel studios). I've lost track of thee amount of times characters like Wonder Woman & Flash have been in & out of production. Which is why the likelyhood of this current slate actually happening is pretty slim.
But those Flash and WW movies didn't have a date back then as far as I know.

As for the film slate definitely not happening... Eh okay. :funny:
 

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