What people DIDN'T like from The Avenger ........Spoilers - Part 1

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  1. BigThor

    BigThor God of Thunder

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    Hulk got the last "hit" so automatically people assume that he had the upperhand, they seem to forget that Thor was still conscious when the fight was interrupted.
     
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  2. spider-neil

    spider-neil spins a web any size!

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    to be fair to loki, hulk takes him mid sentence and completely by surprise or loki could have put a 'ghost image' of himself and hulk would have gone right through him.
     
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  3. BigThor

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    To be fair you're right, but most people evidently don't use that much "logic",

    This isn't a shot at anyone in particular by the way, just speaking in general.
     
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  4. natey2k4

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    Hawkeye needed a few more scenes, I think. I loved everything else though!
     
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  5. Incredible Hans

    Incredible Hans I'm always hungry!

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    Here's something new, I believe...

    When Thor first appeared in the movie, he entered the Quinjet, took Loki and flew away.

    Iron Man then had a short dialogue with Cap. After that he left the Quinjet too.

    Captain America takes a parachute while the Black Widow asks him to stay. Since both Loki and Thor are gods, they could be too powerful for Cap. Cap doesn't listen to her and jumps out of the Quinjet.

    How long did these two dialogues (Cap-Stark, Cap-Widow) take... about a minute?

    In one minute, the Quinjet should've travelled several miles. So when Cap arrives on the ground, he should be miles away from the point where Thor is! It should take him considerable time to arrive at the Thor/Iron Man fight.
     
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  6. The Morningstar

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    That's just incredible nit picking looooool. Stuff like that is not even worth thinking about.

    But it does take him some time to arrive at the Thor/IM fight. He presumably lands a few miles away, sees and hears the battle, then runs there.
     
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  7. Bren

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    Or even that they slowed/hovered the jet because the door is open and their fugitive had been 'stolen'?

    It could hover, couldn't it?
     
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  8. The Morningstar

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    Yea it had verticle thrust.
     
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  9. Incredible Hans

    Incredible Hans I'm always hungry!

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    I know. But I understood this is a forum about nitpicking. :cwink:
     
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  10. Incredible Hans

    Incredible Hans I'm always hungry!

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    It could. But it didn't.
     
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  11. Kanon

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    Plus, Iron Man took Thor with him a short distance when the battle started
     
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  12. Incredible Hans

    Incredible Hans I'm always hungry!

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    In which direction?
     
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  13. Bren

    Bren Forevernoob

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    In the direction of the quinjet.
     
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  14. Incredible Hans

    Incredible Hans I'm always hungry!

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    How do you know?
     
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  15. Bren

    Bren Forevernoob

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    Because Captain America landed close to them :oldrazz:
     
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  16. Incredible Hans

    Incredible Hans I'm always hungry!

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    :woot::woot::woot:

    But honestly, since Iron Man was chasing Thor at that point, it makes much more sense that he took Thor in the opposite direction (= coming from the direction where the Quinjet is). That would mean that the distance gets even bigger for Cap.
     
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  17. Oruku Saki

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    You guys do know that parachutes don't necessarily fall straight down...Cap could have easily covered a few miles directing his chute
     
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  18. Incredible Hans

    Incredible Hans I'm always hungry!

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    And if the wind's coming from the wrong direction, he would be a few miles more away from Thor.
     
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  19. Bren

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    There was no wind.
    IM and Thor ended up directly below the quinjet
    Which was hovering
    There were neon signs pointing Cap to where they were
    The signs had speakers, just in case Cap was blind
    The end.
     
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  20. Incredible Hans

    Incredible Hans I'm always hungry!

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    An ordinary plane with Mach 0.85 would travel 254 m/s. So in 10 seconds, it would be 2,5 km away.

    Now I'd say that an quinjet is a lot faster and the discussion between Cap, Widow and Stark lastet somehwat longer than 10 seconds. So when Cap jumps off the Quinjet, Thor and Loki are probably at least 20-30 miles away...
     
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  21. Incredible Hans

    Incredible Hans I'm always hungry!

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    Sorry no, it wasn't. Watch that scene again.
     
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  22. BigThor

    BigThor God of Thunder

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    It looked like they flew over a mile when IM slammed Thor into that mountain (yeah I know, Thor kicked them back).

    Now that I think about it, I can't believe this is an actual conversation....
     
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  23. Hotwire

    Hotwire Dealin' W/ Demons

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    Guys, this whole thing about how Cap got to Iron Man and Thor....

    Deus ex machina.

    Also, would this be a debate if it had happened on the pages of a comic, or just in the movie?
     
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  24. Dark Raven

    Dark Raven The Gal from Themyscira

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    Here's a question. During the IM/ Thor fight, how come Loki didn't escape? He just stayed where Thor left him. The only explanation I can think of for that is that he wanted to be captured, but at least he shouldn't have made it so obvious then by just waiting patiently where he was.
     
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  25. Manowar

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    I didn't like how Hulk took out the first flying serpent ship with just 1 punch. Hulk didn't have the momentum or weight to be able to stop it in it's tracks like that. It also diminished the overall most dangerous threat in a matter of seconds.
     
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