Days of Future Past What you didn't like about X-Men:DOFP - Flaws/Critiques

[Matt.S99]

My only personal complaint is Emma's fate.

 

[Feenix]

My only personal complaint is Emma's fate.

I have to say, seeing those autopsy photos was really chilling. And heartbreaking. If I was in Mystique's shoes, I wouldn't have shot Trask. I would have quartered him.

 

[Eros]

Kitty random power to send minds back in time was never explained..........

 

[Heretic]

Kitty random power to send minds back in time was never explained..........

It was a gift from Xavier's new body.

 

[Matt.S99]

I have to say, seeing those autopsy photos was really chilling. And heartbreaking. If I was in Mystique's shoes, I wouldn't have shot Trask. I would have quartered him.

Well, they didn't show hers(from what I and most people could tell), but yes, those were really freaky.

 

[Eros]

It was a gift from Xavier's new body.

huh?

 

[Matt.S99]

It could just be a secondary mutation.

 

[Incredible Hans]

I have some points that others already mentioned... and some new ones:

- It would have been more logical that Trask needed Rogue's DNA and not Mystique's DNA, since Mystique can only change her appearance and not her powers.
- I'm not really satisfied with the explanation why it has to be Wolverine who goes back in time - "because he can regenerate". After all, not his body is sent back, but only his spirit. So Wolverine's regenerative abilities also affect his consciousness? Then why can't he heal his missing memories?
- Leaving Quicksilver behind makes no sense. His scenes showed that his Fox version is very, very powerful. He had to be left behind because his presence in Paris and Washington would have destroyed the plot. So there might be a reason for Singer to leave QS behind, but certainly not for Xavier and Logan.
- When Mystique killed Trask in the original year of 1973, what happened to her? Did they say that in the movie? Could be that I missed it... Was she killed? If she wasn't, how did she escape and never tell anyone that Trask has her DNA? And if she was killed, how can there be a Mystique (Rebecca Romijn) in the three first X-Men movies - after all, these three movies represent the normal time line before Wolverine's time travel corrects it. Did Fox just create another continuity mistake?

Good movie, but not a great movie.

 

[Eros]

It could just be a secondary mutation.

But it was never explained, and she never had such a random power in the comics. They could of this given another mutant that power....it seems illogical to me

 

[Matt.S99]

Would be nice to have a throw away line, but does it really need to be explained? Can't you just take it as is? Movie Kitty has the power to send people's consciences back in time. She was born that way? Lol.

I dont even know how you could really explain it, tbh.

 

[Heretic]

huh?

Kidding...it was a mystery explained by another mystery.

 

[Heretic]

Would be nice to have a throw away line, but does it really need to be explained? Can't you just take it as is? Movie Kitty has the power to send people's consciences back in time. She was born that way? Lol.

I dont even know how you could really explain it, tbh.

I explained it to myself during the film that her phasing powers had mutated to where she was able to phase consciousness through time...which doesn't make a whole lot of sense...but it got me through.

 

[Matt.S99]

Well, it's been noted in comics that secondary mutations can happen over time, so there..? I don't know, I just don't think it really needs explaining. It's just part of her power set.

 

[magneto23]

That doesn't mean anything? Then they should have removed that line, right? It could be a hint. And the producers already said they are open to do more films with the OT cast and even Patrick Stewart gave a hint in doing more X-Men films. The fact that Fox is not saying that this is it for the OT cast, means its not really the end for them. It could be, but its not set in stone.

That line of dialogue wasn't a "hint". Xavier was pretty clearly referring to the 50 years post 1973 that Wolverine missed out on. Any story that they are going to tell, that takes place in that 50 year range, will feature the new cast. Not the OT.

 

[Mrs Vimes]

- Why, of all places, does Mystique decide to kill Trask in a crowded room with armed military personnel present, when she had no problem breaking into his office?

 

[X-Maniac]

None of these films are ever perfect, it's easy to nitpick - like, for example, why are Wolverine's memories (seen in DoFP and other films) viewed where we can see his face as though being watched by someone else. He wouldn't remember it that way, surely; he'd see it through his own eyes.

 

[epc11223]

Really enjoyed the film but have two main problems. Like most people, how did wolverine get his adimantium back and at the end of credit scene for the wolverine, it was all sunny and there was really no indication for days of future past. Seems like in days of future past the sentinel problem was world wide. I would think wolverine would have opened the newspaper paper at some point. I know for days of future past it needed to be explained, but it really didn't sync up from that after credit scene.

For another poster, after mystique kills trask, I believe they get mystique and hold her prisoner, extracting her DNA. It was immidiately after she kills trask. I was thinking rogue would have been more appropriate for the sentinels, but then I was thinking, in the comics mystique is rogues mother, maybe what's in mystique is similar to rogue. In xmen, rogue has a family but she could have been adopted and it just wasn't delved into.

 

[X-Maniac]

Really enjoyed the film but have two main problems. Like most people, how did wolverine get his adimantium back and at the end of credit scene for the wolverine, it was all sunny and there was really no indication for days of future past. Seems like in days of future past the sentinel problem was world wide. I would think wolverine would have opened the newspaper paper at some point. I know for days of future past it needed to be explained, but it really didn't sync up from that after credit scene.

The Wolverine took place in 2013, the after-credits in 2015. At that point, the Sentinel program had been restarted, but it was early days and only Xavier/Magneto probably knew about what that would mean. It wasn't until later that things went to hell.

How does he get his adamantium back? Must have been Magneto's doing.

For another poster, after mystique kills trask, I believe they get mystique and hold her prisoner, extracting her DNA. It was immidiately after she kills trask. I was thinking rogue would have been more appropriate for the sentinels, but then I was thinking, in the comics mystique is rogues mother, maybe what's in mystique is similar to rogue. In xmen, rogue has a family but she could have been adopted and it just wasn't delved into.

Mystique isn't Rogue's actual biological mother, lol. So their powers aren't similar because of heredity passing them on. And that relationship just doesn't exist in the films anyway. It gets a bit soap opera delving into these family links.

 

[Mrs Vimes]

None of these films are ever perfect, it's easy to nitpick - like, for example, why are Wolverine's memories (seen in DoFP and other films) viewed where we can see his face as though being watched by someone else. He wouldn't remember it that way, surely; he'd see it through his own eyes.

Oh for sure, you can pick pretty much every one of them apart. For instance I always thought that Magneto's plan in X1 was total and utter nonsense.

I guess I'm just a lot more critical and prone to be irked with plot holes and contrivances when the movie doesn't quite win me over.

 

[epc11223]

The Wolverine took place in 2013, the after-credits in 2015. At that point, the Sentinel program had been restarted, but it was early days and only Xavier/Magneto probably knew about what that would mean. It wasn't until later that things went to hell.

How does he get his adamantium back? Must have been Magneto's doing.



Mystique isn't Rogue's actual biological mother, lol. So their powers aren't similar because of heredity passing them on. And that relationship just doesn't exist in the films anyway. It gets a bit soap opera delving into these family links.

well it still wouldn't really make sense for magneto and xavier to be explaining it to wolverine. if wolverine was with them for eight or so years, then he wouldn't be out of the loop. it really seemed like they had just met up with wolverine. with the adimantium back, yeah, that's kind of what we have to assume, but still, i found it frustrating.

thanks for the info on mystique and rogue. i always thought mystique was rogues biological mother. i know their relationship doesn't exist in the movies, but it is something they could always bring up. what's their actual relationship then?

 

[eddy]

Didn't like the "Hulk" angle with Beast, as it served no character purpose. There was no arc to it, with Hank finally becoming "mutant and proud", or what have you. It had of had using the serum to try and throw off the sentinel, but that was ultimately futile, so it didn't serve any consequential story purpose either. Just less Beast being Beast.

I think this part was in the movie to explain why Beast was human in his X2 cameo.

 

[Marvin]

Really dug this movie, alot more character development than a certain other celebrated major team movie that came out a couple years ago.

However a few lapses in logic somewhat hamper my ultimate enjoyment a little.

-Such as why do all their work from the stationary temple in the future and not some better fortified place(lots more metal) or better yet, that super stealthy mobile jet. I would even imagine the jet has a dna cloak(if not it definitely would be a good idea). I get it what they did from a dramatic angle but it just feels like the characters themselves could have thought about this more.

-Xavier has boundaries over just how he uses his powers, which is good for hero with mental powers to have, but I would imagine given the stakes at play, he could stretch them a bit and simply persuade the leaders and Trask(himself) to knock it off..
Not to mention what can be done with cerebro..

A few other things but those two stood out. I'd put this film on par with X2 and just under first class.

 

[ShadowBoxer]

Anyone else feel like they dropped the ball with Trask?? They didn't give him a soild reason for hating mutants or killing and experimenting on the others like Emma, Angel, Azezel etc. He just hated mutants just because the plot needed him to. Stryker in X2 for example was given a motivation as to why he was doing what he was doing unlike Trask.

 

[Incredible Hans]

Like most people, how did wolverine get his adimantium back and at the end of credit scene for the wolverine,

???

How did Wolverine get his adamantium back at the end of the credit Scene of "The Wolverine"?

Well, he never lost it.

The Silver Samurai cut off his adamantium claws. Because of Wolverine's healing factor the claws grew back, but since the adamantium is not a natural part of his body, they grew back as bone claws. Wolverine can't regenerate the adamantium parts of his body!

So in the post credit scene of the Wolverine, he was without adamantium claws, but still with an adamantium skeleton.

And then, by some way we don't know, he also got the adamantium for his claws back at some point during the next eight years, since he has adamantium claws in the future scenes of DOFP.

 

[Marvin]

wouldn't be too hard to find some more of the alloy imo.

Anyone else feel like they dropped the ball with Trask?? They didn't give him a soild reason for hating mutants or killing and experimenting on the others like Emma, Angel, Azezel etc. He just hated mutants just because the plot needed him to. Stryker in X2 for example was given a motivation as to why he was doing what he was doing unlike Trask.

I thought that they explained that he didn't really hate them but sought them out as a tool to unify the world. Different from the guy in the cartoon.