Days of Future Past What you didn't like about X-Men:DOFP - Flaws/Critiques

[CyclopsWasRight]

Absolutely a TASM2 comparison. Delving into too many sub-plots is what caused the problem with that. Adding sub-plots to Bishop or others could certainly derail the movie.

Now more dialogue like mentioned above would be fine but sidetracking the main story to expand characters could affect the overall narrative poorly, like in TASM2

 

[ThePowerCosmic]

Well I've seen plenty of people say they did care without the need for further development and exploration of the future characters, if you needed more thats fair enough but I think plenty of other films that have a massive range of characters all have this issue and DOFP is not alone.

I understand it's not the only movie that's done this, but this thread is about DOFP and issues that we had with the movie.

 

[Great Mind(s)]

Don't need a Bishop subplot. Just a line of dialogue here or there. The Rogue subplot I doubt would derail the movie too much. Like I mentioned in the Rogue thread, there was a subplot mission in the DOFP comic that seemed similar to the Rogue rescue. I felt like they cut it not because we couldn't handle that much but because the GA would be too confused about "wait is this the future or the past? Huh? What?"

When I left the theater, I overheard some woman saying she was too confused about going between the future and the past. If what we got was too confusing, a 10 minute future subplot in the middle of the past plot would have confused a lot of people. That being said, don't go see a time travel X-Men movie if you can't handle time travel and X-Men!

 

[BlackFox]

Black Widow's opening scene where she was abducted and later recruiting Hulk were much more than Bishop and the other new future characters got as they were mainly cannon fodder. Besides she had already been featured in IM2 as a supporting character so they didn't need to introduce or explain her character in Avengers as her previous outing already served that purpose

And you may want to check out TLS again bc Psylocke did use her powers in the film

No I'm never watching TLS again ever, I'm not convinced she did much of anything.

 

[Havok83]

No I'm never watching TLS again ever, I'm not convinced she did much of anything.

well she wasn't a major character but she most definetly used her powers in the film

 

[BlackFox]

I understand it's not the only movie that's done this, but this thread is about DOFP and issues that we had with the movie.

And thats cool, but its going to be an issue for every one of these films and similar ones to it unless you limit the number of mutants/superhero's just saying.

Just trying to help

 

[ThePowerCosmic]

Absolutely a TASM2 comparison. Delving into too many sub-plots is what caused the problem with that. Adding sub-plots to Bishop or others could certainly derail the movie.

Now more dialogue like mentioned above would be fine but sidetracking the main story to expand characters could affect the overall narrative poorly, like in TASM2

Whichever way you slice it, Bishop's story fit into the narrative perfectly and wouldn't have derailed the movie because it was directly involved in the movie's plot.

This is not TASM2 where they threw a bunch of random stuff together and attempted to weave it all into one big story. Bishop's story wouldn't have been random like that, so please, let's be real. It's not bogging down the movie because it's a few minutes of him talking about his past. Not an entire subplot dedicated to it.

 

[DarkXorn]

well she wasn't a major character but she most definetly used her powers in the film

She used her powers? You mean, the power of the Crimson Dawn she had for a brief time in the comics, which allows her to travel through Shadows, yet in The Last Stand it was "adapted" so she basically camouflages herself into a lit wall?

I saw no Psylocke power usage at all. Psylocke is what her name states. Psychic. Psychic blades, katana's, telepathy. THOSE are Psylocke's powers. Not a second rate ability that only lightly references something. If not for the fact she had Purple hair, was played by an actress of asian descent and had a small red tattoo under her eye, I would never consider this Psylocke.

 

[LamboMan]

I posted this over in the rate and review thread but thought that I should put it here too.

I have only one serious gripe with this film which is WHY the hell didn't they have a scene with Wolverine (with or without Colossus) fighting a Sentinel and ripping it to shreds in the future? Such HUGE potential for a great scene lost there. I've been waiting for a scene like that ever since seeing that half assed training simulator sequence in X3.
All they needed to do was show Wolvie and the professor being attacked before they were on the X-plane right at the beginning.

This movie should have been atleast 20 minutes longer. I mean they had such a huge cast and 2 hours of runtime wasn't enough. Even MOS was longer.

That's why I have a smaller gripe which is that they didn't really show us too much of the future. One shot of the city and then just fight scenes with the mutants and sentinels. This is what I was afraid of after seeing the trailers. They basically gave out all the future scenes in the marketing, baiting us to think there was going to be more, but there wasn't.

Trask's character was underused. Played by such a good actor and they didn't even have a scene with him at the end. Instead they chose to give Nixon more screentime. Seriously?

Don't get me wrong, I liked the film and thought it was a great sequel to First Class. The ending was perfect, the dialogues and a lot of stuff was good. But they lost so much potential that was there to make a truly large scale and impactful film. I don't mean action scenes, I mean that there needed to be more depth the the future scenes and the world building in general to really make us care about the gravity of the situation at hand.

Looks like we're not going to see it anytime soon since the sentinels aren't coming back...I hope I'm wrong though.

Anyway, good movie, but not as great as it could be.

 

[Great Mind(s)]

I think the biggest complaint seems to be the lack of future scenes. And we know they filmed them.

 

[LamboMan]

I think the biggest complaint seems to be the lack of future scenes. And we know they filmed them.

Yeah, and MOS's krypton sequence had more to it than all the future scenes in DOFP. I'm not talking about action, just story depth. The future scenes had enough awesome action, which I must admit was great. But it was just like a filler for the rest of the movie, without adding any depth to the world.

 

[Mace Dolex]

I know The Wolverine was just out last year and while I don't have a DVD on hand to recall but I could've sworn that on the post credit scene as Wolverine was walking through the airport security that the alarm went off because he DID have the adamantium.

Like I said I just hated the movie that my memory is a little hazy on that one.

 

[DrDoom]

He still had adamantium throughout his entire body but he pointed his claws at Magneto and they were bone

 

[chaseter]

The point of the future scenes were to evoke and show that all hope is lost. It wasn't to provide uplifting action scenes of the team winning...,hence why they were all dying.

 

[Great Mind(s)]

I don't care about them dying, that's what happened in the comic! I wanted some more dialogue and stuff. It just happened too fast.

 

[Mace Dolex]

He still had adamantium throughout his entire body but he pointed his claws at Magneto and they were bone

Oh that was it, I thought that Silver Samurai had drained all the adamatium from Logan's body.

 

[X-Maniac]

He still had adamantium throughout his entire body but he pointed his claws at Magneto and they were bone

Wut? The future version somehow had his bone claws re-coated since what happened in The Wolverine. The past version didn't have any adamantium at all yet.

I was also okay with not showing Wolverine slashing future Sentinels with his claws. Others had a moment to shine, for a change.

 

[Great Mind(s)]

I wanted to see him get turned to an adamantium skeleton. Obviously that wouldn't be possible with the time travel aspect. Unless it was at the final moment, Sentinels vaporize everyone and we see the metal skeleton laying there before it disappears.

 

[LamboMan]

I wanted to see him get turned to an adamantium skeleton. Obviously that wouldn't be possible with the time travel aspect. Unless it was at the final moment, Sentinels vaporize everyone and we see the metal skeleton laying there before it disappears.

Wow, I commend you! It would have been an amazing scene, seeing them actually get killed and seeing Wolvies skeleton, and then suddenly it all disappears. There is so much lost potential in this film, it's sad. What was there was good, but so much that should have been there wasn't.

 

[P Supreme]

The scene where Wolvering loses his memory for a brief moment in paris
that to me was just not needed

and I would have like for them to Take Quicksilver with them once they got magneto

 

[Majik1387]

He still had adamantium throughout his entire body but he pointed his claws at Magneto and they were bone

I could be wrong since I haven't seen The Wolverine in a bit, but didn't Silver Samurai cut off/rip out Wolverine's claws entirely in their final battle?
I figured the bones were still covered, and his claws healed, but the adamantium on them was never replaced.

 

[Kahran Ramsus]

Oh that was it, I thought that Silver Samurai had drained all the adamatium from Logan's body.

Just the claws. He still sets off the metal detector at the airport and Magneto can still control him.

 

[Spider-Fan]

He's not my favorite character. I am saying it was a missed opportunity to not have his story told, especially when he's the only mutant there that's been in one of those camps. It doesn't matter if it's about a character or not, I see it as a flaw in the movie and that's what this thread is about. I do think the movie needed it to give the future mutants(at least one of them) more emotional resonance that I thought was severely lacking which is why I didn't care when they died.

This movie wasn't about the future. It was about the journey of McAvoy Xavier, using a dystopian future as a plot device. If this movie was ABOUT the future, I would agree. Since the future is a plot device in order to get the FC cast back into action, it works very well. I don't think it is a flaw with the movie at all.

 

[Legion]

I wanted to see him get turned to an adamantium skeleton. Obviously that wouldn't be possible with the time travel aspect. Unless it was at the final moment, Sentinels vaporize everyone and we see the metal skeleton laying there before it disappears.

Well it could have been done at the beginning of the film if Wolverine had met up with Kitty's team right before the Sentinel attack.

 

[Legion]

Whichever way you slice it, Bishop's story fit into the narrative perfectly and wouldn't have derailed the movie because it was directly involved in the movie's plot.

This is not TASM2 where they threw a bunch of random stuff together and attempted to weave it all into one big story. Bishop's story wouldn't have been random like that, so please, let's be real. It's not bogging down the movie because it's a few minutes of him talking about his past. Not an entire subplot dedicated to it.

We didn't need to hear Bishop's story because everyone around him is living in this nightmare world too. Whatever happened to him before is irrelevant because he's still alive and all he is doing is trying to stay alive like everyone else. No one needs to be reminded of it.

Now look at Magneto. In every film he's been in he reminds us and the characters around him of his time in the concentration camps. He shows us his tattoo. That's because the war was over and they/we needed to be reminded of the horrors of the past and that history repeats itself. Magneto didn't need do that in this film.