First Avenger Who Is Composing?

[The Chris]

I just hope it's either of them. Because they are two of my favorite composers currently working.

 

[kedrell]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKa0oq6EvsQ

Listen from 4:10 to 4:50. Imagine that playing in the finale of the trailer. It would be perfect for a Steve Rogers centered trailer.

Hell, the whole thing is golden.

Well, it's ok. Pretty reminiscent of SPR. Very common among WWII centered films/games. However, I don't think that would stand out as a very memorable CA theme or anything. It'd get lost in the shuffle of other WWII scores pretty easily.

Now there are more patriotic themed scores than just scores for war films(WWII or otherwise) and one of the reasons that I have been in the James Horner camp on this from the begining(aside from the fact that he has worked with Johnston more than anyone else) was Horner's Apollo 13 score. It's very patriotic yet it could not get easily confused with other patriotic themed scores.

Just imagine this*(the music from the build-up to the launch) as sort of the build up to the vita-ray(I know they likely won't use that term in the movie but essentially that's what it is anyway) chamber scene. Both are about the build up to a potentially life-risking venture on the part of the hero(es).

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[Doctor Jones]

I think it would be great for a trailer only. I can understand if it may not come off as well in the film. That would send chills up my spine. I listend to the 4:10 to 4:50 with the Superbowl spot playing. If you can get past some of the missed cues and images that don't fit as much, it works pretty well.

 

[Elevator Man]

Well, it's ok. Pretty reminiscent of SPR. Very common among WWII centered films/games. However, I don't think that would stand out as a very memorable CA theme or anything. It'd get lost in the shuffle of other WWII scores pretty easily.

Now there are more patriotic themed scores than just scores for war films(WWII or otherwise) and one of the reasons that I have been in the James Horner camp on this from the begining(aside from the fact that he has worked with Johnston more than anyone else) was Horner's Apollo 13 score. It's very patriotic yet it could not get easily confused with other patriotic themed scores.

Just imagine this*(the music from the build-up to the launch) as sort of the build up to the vita-ray(I know they likely won't use that term in the movie but essentially that's what it is anyway) chamber scene. Both are about the build up to a potentially life-risking venture on the part of the hero(es).

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Instead it would just get easily confused with other Horner theme scores. Sorry but I hope Horner doesn't score this. All that hype about having 18 months to work on Avatar. The score was same old same old from him to a lot of film score fans. You say Johnston colaborated with Horner the most of any his other composers. Which is true but he hasn't worked with Horner for 16 yrs now. I wonder why ? Ron Howard also hasn't worked with him in 8 yrs now and has mainly been working with Zimmer lately. So I hope Giachinno gets this in the bag. He can do wonders with this character.

 

[kedrell]

Instead it would just get easily confused with other Horner theme scores. Sorry but I hope Horner doesn't score this. All that hype about having 18 months to work on Avatar. The score was same old same old from him to a lot of film score fans. You say Johnston colaborated with Horner the most of any his other composers. Which is true but he hasn't worked with Horner for 16 yrs now. I wonder why ? Ron Howard also hasn't worked with him in 8 yrs now and has mainly been working with Zimmer lately. So I hope Giachinno gets this in the bag. He can do wonders with this character.

His Apollo 13 score sounds very distinct from his other scores, IMO. Maybe he's lost his touch over the years, I don't know. I haven't kept up with his career since the dawn of the new century. If Giaccino gets it I hope he doesn't hand in some generic WWII type of music that we heard in the Medal of Honor clip. If that happens, I'll be pissed. And I know Giaccino has a decent range, so I won't worry needlessly. But that trumpet stuff is just too damn overused ever since SPR came out. My point with bringing up the Apollo 13 score is that it ALSO is a patriotic themed score yet is quite distinct(it even uses a trumpet as well but it still sounds distinct). And what I want above all is for people to hear the score and think, "That's the Captain America score" without even having to see footage with it. If Giaccino can do that(I believe he has that ability) then good, have on then.

 

[Wolvieboy17]

I think in an ideal world I would love Zimmer, he's been doing some really interestingly different styles lately, but obviously he would be the big guns. Powell or Giaccino would both be excellent choices, although sometimes Powells atmospheric stuff can be ordinary.

 

[Punisher_MAX]

i LOVED MoH Frontline and AA when it came out and i remember the score being so damn amazing and very SPR like, which is hands down one of my favorite movies of all time, so i am totally on board with Michael Giacchino doing the score.

 

[moe]

but is zimmer suited for Cap?? i don't think so... i mean, i loved his Inception score, "Time" and "Waiting for a Train" are perfection.... but i don't think he can pull of a war/soldier type score... but i could be wrong, as he is very maticulous... and nolan stated that he feels he can find the sound of any movie...

Horner may be good... James Netwon can do it too probably.

 

[Wolvieboy17]

It's not a matter of is Zimmer suited for Cap, he's shown that he adapts to whatever is needed of him. I think it's not questionable that he could do a great score, it's just a matter of whether it matches the tone of the film. He could do a really moving, intense score but this film seems to be more light hearted than that.

 

[lixdexia]

i'm getting tired of zimmer scores

 

[Wolvieboy17]

He hasn't been given anything interesting to do for a while. I think he works best when given an interesting vision or depiction. I thought his Sherlock Holmes score was really great and different but for Inception, a fairly standard score was needed. It wasn't a driving score but rather a supporting one.

 

[moe]

He hasn't been given anything interesting to do for a while. I think he works best when given an interesting vision or depiction. I thought his Sherlock Holmes score was really great and different but for Inception, a fairly standard score was needed. It wasn't a driving score but rather a supporting one.

not at all. it had to be as unique as the premise of the film.

 

[Wolvieboy17]

Well if it HAD to be unique, then he failed, because there are definite and clear traces of previous scores in that one. There are quite blatant similarities between that and his Batman scores.

 

[moe]

Well if it HAD to be unique, then he failed, because there are definite and clear traces of previous scores in that one. There are quite blatant similarities between that and his Batman scores.

i don't recall him basing the score of TDK on an old french song

 

[Wolvieboy17]

Obviously it's not exactly the same, but you don't even have to be a student of music to notice the strong similarities between the broader themes. To deny any similarity is just stupid altogether.

 

[kedrell]

not at all. it had to be as unique as the premise of the film.

Well, lets be frank. It wasn't as original as Nolanites would have us believe. Or have we suddenly forgot these 1980's gems,

or this from 10 years ago,

 

[Wolvieboy17]

There were some interesting elements to the score, such as the use of recording bits and playing them backwards, but it was by far 'unique' as far as a Zimmer score will go.

It's like Danny Elfman, he is capable of doing really interesting, unique things sometimes (Like The Hulk is a great, different score for him) but sometimes it's just Elfman doing Elfman. Inception was simply a case of Zimmer doing Zimmer. He's incredibly talented, so obviously it's good, but to call it unique, compared to Zimmer's entire portfolio of work, is a massive stretch. Next you'll tell me his Angels and Demons score was unique.

 

[kedrell]

When I think of a composer who had the range to do at least two iconic scores that sound absolutely nothing alike and that you could never tell it was the same guy who did them w/o reading the credits, I always come up with Basil Poledouris's Conan the Barbarian and RoboCop scores. Now THAT is range.

 

[Wolvieboy17]

There are many more diverse composers out there.... Compare Zimmers 'Gladiator' score with his 'Sherlock Holmes' score, Elfmans 'Beetlejuice' score with his 'Hulk' score, John Williams with....oh wait, scratch that one :P

 

[moe]

Well, lets be frank. It wasn't as original as Nolanites would have us believe. Or have we suddenly forgot these 1980's gems,

or this from 10 years ago,

lets not derail the thread... you are reaching and its clear.

 

[Wolvieboy17]

I think it's totally related because Nolan fanboys extend their love to all facets of the film, score included. I think fanboys in general will defend composers of beloved films with a terminal intensity which is a shame because analysing a score criticially shouldn't take anything away from the film at all.

 

[Mercurius]

Giacchino's Medal of Honor sounds completely banal to me: that cliché "army" percussion, "miracle" voices. All that is the very common, battered stuff to make associate dignity and military thing.

God forbid. Out with old, boring military nostalgia.

I prefer the inventive, dramatic and powerful Giacchino of Cloverfield.

 

[craigdbfan]

Overture is amazing.

 

[kedrell]

Giacchino's Medal of Honor sounds completely banal to me: that cliché "army" percussion, "miracle" voices. All that is the very common, battered stuff to make associate dignity and military thing.

God forbid. Out with old, boring military nostalgia.

This I agree with. It sounded......like every other modern WWII movie or game. B-o-r-i-n-g. But I still think there should be a patriotic element to the score, which is why I like the Apollo 13 score so much. It's patriotic as well, but clearly different.

 

[ddddeeee]

James Horner and JJ had a falling out quite some time ago, and since then he's only worked with different composers.