Why I like the Avengers

But the comic isn't that good. It's not The Avengers. It's a bunch of guys getting together and ifghting ninjas. The Avengers requires big, epic stuff. That ain't what the New Avengers are. As for the cast: Luke Cage is a street level hero. I like him, but he doesn't belong on The Avengers. It's just not his thing. I don't like Wolverine on it because he's ****ing EVERYWHERE! He's in three X-Men titles, New Avengers, and his own solo book. He's over exposed.




And also, I don't like Batman being on the League either.

 

I like the Avengers cause it is a team book with lots of Action that can showcase the non Superstar characters like She-Hulk, Wasp, Giant Man, Hawkeye, Quicksilver, Vision, Wonderman, Warbird, Silver Claw, Starfox, Scarlet Witch......



I don't like New Avengers.

 

I was with you up until the stop complaining part. The team is a travesty, and spits on everything the Avengers were. Might as well just take a dump on Avengers history and Roy Thomas while youre at it. Point is, this isnt the Avengers. This is just some team Cap put together out of desperation. Also its just another vehicle for bendis to put all his little onscure favorite characters in a team. Also adding useless characters like Ronin and the Sentry who by far is way too powerful for this Avengers team. If you enjoy it, thats fine, doesnt mean we all have to. And man Avengers isnt even written that well. Nothing happens, and dont get me started on that Alpha Flight issue, theres a reason why splash pages are kept to a minimum.

 

I agree.

Bravo.

 

I see this as a big roiling flaming argument,....so I'm gonna try to stay out somewhat.
My only point would be to point out that Captain America, And Hawkeye were "Street-Level" heroes, and that the Avengers as written have always been about putting a team out there to handle what one guy couldn't do.

The new team qualifies - just needs better writing.

Why do folk not remember when it was Cap,Hawkeye,Scarlet Witch, and Quicksilver?

Compared to the current set,.. that group was WAY underpowered,.. but they were considered Avengers,...

 

Its not really about power, its about balance.

 

Personally for the most part I think NA has been rather well written.

The first arc had some issues. The first issue of the collective arc was a miss-step but that aside i've enjoyed it.

 

I stopped reading your post right there. Everything else you say is irrelevant. Please read my sig, grow up and then post again.

 

Bit overly ironic their sir.

 

I expected a stupid remark like that from you.

 

Really, they dont. The Sentry could do whatever task necessary by himself. The team is deemed obsolete just by the fact The Sentry is on it. But of course, you never see The Sentry do anything on the book, so...

 

la tristesse durera toujours..

 

Oh, NOW I'm impressed.

 

you should see me juggle

 

For the record...if you REALLY want to start intelligent conversation about a title you like, you could do the following:

1) Do a search for the FIVE MILLION other posts regarding the title you are interested in discussing.

2) Don't start your post like a bull in a china shop and expect people to marvel at your intellect.

3) Expect people to disagree with you.

Just a little FYI.

 

if I put a Mustang horse on a VW Beetle does that make it a Mustang????

 

that i can't disagree with.


I was just happy to see a postive avengers thread started.

 

yet you mentioned that basicly we hate change and that is why we hate Nu Avengers

 

For the record, I dont care if you like the title or any title I dont enjoy. People will always have different tastes. But, dont come on here and say crap like this.

"So all I am saying is stop complaining and just enjoy the comic. Its not your dream-team, so what? I'm sure there is at least on person on the team you like."

I guess people should stop complaining about the Bush administration since we like Condoleeza Rice.

 

Why I don't like the New Avengers? They aren't the Avengers. The Avengers were the big epic heroes, now they've been reduced to fighting ninjas. Not to mention that I don't particularly care for the writing itself, but the stories and ideas have little to no connection with the Avengers mythology and decompression rules the book.

Heck, try and compare it to Busiek's first 17 issues. You've got a team quickly assembled, stories drawn on Avengers history without you needing to have read those stories, and some actual gosh darn character development.

 

Exactly.

 

This argument is so old. I was going to post my opinion but decided against it, since I've done so many times before.