Wolverine and The X-Men is renewed!!!

[Phoenix_Flare]

Comicscontinuum.com has reported that upcoming t.v. series Wolverine and The X-Men has been renewed for 26 more epi. by Marvel Studios, but their is no word on which character(s) are returning and also if Nicktoons would pick up the series after season 1 is aired...

 

[Ziggyman]

Great...Hopefully this series picks up a little more steam...I do believe that this can be a good show!

 

[Dread]

It does seem strange since the show hasn't even aired officially in the U.S. yet. Perhaps ratings in Canada and Latin America are strong enough to justify a new season alone. Or Marvel is expecting a big box office debut and DVD sale listing for the WOLVERINE movie and wants to ensure that more X is on TV in 2010.

 

[usagicassidy]

Well it has been done in the past that european, asian, and non-united states north american countries (ie. Canada and Mexico) will "purchase" a show for production in the United States, and it will be made on that regard alone (ie. even if the US markets weren't begging for it, it'd still be able to turn a profit from all the other areas), so it's not too far fetched.

And if this is indeed true, that's great new for "the-sooner-the-better" because a) they won't have lost some of the steam and momentum and could more easily get things rolling again, and b) by the time they're plotted, voiced, animated, and completed, the US market wouldn't really have to wait to shelve them out (what, they'd hold them for three years until the next X-film came out?).

 

[Hush]

Thats good i cna see lots of story potential the way this cast is handling its self.

 

[Web-Head408]

Sweet!

Now only if Spectacular Spidey would get it's renewal already.

 

[DMRadz]

That's awesome!!!

Spoiler

Age of Apocalypse BABY!!!

 

[Cyma]

The best news all week t: I thought we would have to wait till 2011 for season 2. And Spectacular Spidey will have a Season 2. It's going to air in Jan or March I think.

 

[Spider-Jim]

Marvel Animation Age confirms this:

http://marvel.toonzone.net/news.php?action=fullnews&id=123

 

[TheVileOne]

I'm ecstatic about this.

However, it still feels like there are hurtles in front of it. Shows have been dissolved in the pre-production stages before. Look no further than The Hulk: Gamma Corp.

Since the show is so great, I hope we see lots more 26 episode seasons. For an action/adventure super hero show to get 1 26 episode season, and then a second consecutive one is pretty spectacular. I don't think that's happened for a long time.

I also wonder if any major changes will be made in the second season. Like, will it still be called Wolverine And The X-men?

 

[Andreth]

I'm so happy!
xD

 

[Slim_X]

That's great! Lets hope the new season focuses more on the team.

 

[Dread]

Spectacular Spider-Man, for the record, has been renewed for another season, the question is still whether it will remain on The CW 4Kids or will move to another station (such as 4KIDS TV). Frankly I don't see why it would move from the CW 4Kids because they are still airing about an hour of reruns every Saturday. Obviously the ratings have to be decent. Of course, each season of that is 13 episodes, not 26 like W&TXM.

Some cartoons do better overseas than here; I recall maybe about 5-7 years ago DIC released a "sequel" series to INSPECTOR GADGET called GADGET AND THE GADGETINI's that didn't air for long in the states but was big in Europe and Canada, and ran for some 50 episodes. They are now working on a third Gadget series. Much as Japan sends a lot of shows overseas for profits, sometimes the U.S. does, as well. FANTASTIC FOUR: WGH was made by a French animation company and got more play in Canada and Europe than on CN, although it probably wasn't as popular as WOLVERINE AND THE X-MEN are, obviously. The X-Men always outdo the Four.

I doubt the title will change; Wolverine is the star character of the show and to many the franchise and I don't see that changing.

It may be possible that a new season might see some more play for Colossus. But then again, this is coming from the same writers who chose to spend the last 9 episodes of EVOLUTION introducing new mutants who never were seen again like Mirage or Legion rather than fleshing out the ones they had on the shelf. Kyle or Johnson did an interview for the BEYOND EVOLUTION website at Toonzone.net and gave the ol' "We woulda gotten to do more with Colossus if we had a 5th season", yet here we are with a new show and the metal man's MIA and stayin' that way. Obviously, they see him as a boring character not worth their time (while that classic character Squidboy is worthy of sharing an episode with Nightcrawler), and they're not alone, sadly. But at least Nightcrawler should be solid.

 

[TheVileOne]

That's for Evolution.

A new series means a whole new amount of responsibilities and things to get across with other characters.

 

[Web-Head408]

I'm talking about season 3 of Spectacular, dudes. We've already been getting rumors that it could face cancellation if it doesn't get renewed for it soon.

 

[Dread]

That's for Evolution.

A new series means a whole new amount of responsibilities and things to get across with other characters.

I am aware of that.

But answer me this, and answer it honestly and objectively; why couldn't Colossus just be a member of the team as much as Iceman or Forge are? Neither have gotten an episode of fleshing, and average maybe 1-3 lines if they do appear. But they're there. They're a presence. Why is that too much for Piotr? I'm not asking for a 12 episode arc detailing the history of the Russian empire here. Just, y'know, Colossus there, regular member, gets in some good punches/smashes every fight scene like everyone else, and maybe one or two "focus" episodes like most characters get on team shows. Is that seriously too much to ask? Especially since he, Kurt, and Logan were like a "unit" in the comics? The three of them, in their Cockrum/Bryne artist stylings, were like THE face of the comic book X-Men for me when I was a kid and just getting into them. Having the two without the third doesn't seem the same, like Moe and Curly without Larry.

Maybe it wouldn't bother me if this was some rare thing, but it's not; most comic book writers just haven't a clue what to do with them. They perpetuate the cycle; they think he's boring, so they keep him boring. You're telling me that writers who felt Nitro and Squidboy were compelling focuses for an episode, and managed to succeed with both, can't find a damn thing to do with Piotr? It's like if JLU chose to consistantly ignore Green Arrow at every turn.

 

[Dread]

I'm talking about season 3 of Spectacular, dudes. We've already been getting rumors that it could face cancellation if it doesn't get renewed for it soon.

Oh. Yeah, that would seriously suck.

But, SONY is moving ahead with SPIDER-MAN 4, so it may be in their best interests to keep the web-head on TV.

 

[Hush]

I hope we get atleast some colosuss, the only bit i see of him is in his horrible iteration in Ultimate X-men.

 

[KINGT'CHALLA]

Sweet!

Now only if Spectacular Spidey would get it's renewal already.

spectacular spidey has been renewed.

 

[Hush]

He meant for a third season.

 

[NightBat]

This is the best news I've heard all day.

 

[Gatchamanjp]

TheVileOne, What happened to Hulk Gamma Corps is different. The Hulk and his enemies were added to...Avengers: Earths Mightiest Heroes. Marvel and it's partners likely wanted Hulk vs The Leader, Abomination, General Thunderbolt Ross or whatever other enemies in one of their superhero team cartoons...than as a solo hero. Suddenly you have Hulk Vs Thor, if Hulk gets upset, or Hulk vs all the Avengers, or Hulk vs Avengers main adversaries.

 

[TheVileOne]

I get that they are recycling work done on that show for Avengers. But the whole thing with the solo Hulk series is still no more now and I think it's plain to see that Incredible Hulk wasn't a huge enough hit to warrant his own show, and it makes more sense to bolster and prop up a new Avengers cartoon a lot more in conjunction with the Avengers movie.

But answer me this, and answer it honestly and objectively; why couldn't Colossus just be a member of the team as much as Iceman or Forge are?

Dread, I think you know that I am just as much of a Colossus fan as you are and I would want to see a lot more Colossus in this series. To answer your question, I don't know. I think only Greg Johnson, Craig Kyle, Steve Gordon, and Chris Yost could answer it better. My hope is that there might be a plan in re-introducing Colossus.

My other idea is that Colossus is a bit of a Deus Ex Machina. Forge fulfills a certain role in that he's the tech and inventor of the team. Iceman's a popular character that's been in the movies, and he's also a younger, male character. Beast sort of seems to serve a role of being a strong man and power house for the team that I think Colossus would normally fill.

Neither have gotten an episode of fleshing, and average maybe 1-3 lines if they do appear. But they're there. They're a presence. Why is that too much for Piotr? I'm not asking for a 12 episode arc detailing the history of the Russian empire here. Just, y'know, Colossus there, regular member, gets in some good punches/smashes every fight scene like everyone else, and maybe one or two "focus" episodes like most characters get on team shows. Is that seriously too much to ask? Especially since he, Kurt, and Logan were like a "unit" in the comics? The three of them, in their Cockrum/Bryne artist stylings, were like THE face of the comic book X-Men for me when I was a kid and just getting into them. Having the two without the third doesn't seem the same, like Moe and Curly without Larry.

Dread, remember when JLU started? Remember how Flash just suddenly disappeared for the show and didn't do a darn thing for like a whole entire season. When he was around he was just in the background and didn't ever speak up. Then suddenly they brought Flash back and made him an important fixture of the show again and he even talked about how he wasn't getting attention anymore despite being a member of the original seven.

So that's why I'm hoping at some point Colossus will be brought back into the fold and get the attention he deserves. And sometimes you have to be patient. A second season of 26 episodes is now in production. That means we could finally see more Colossus in season 2.

I misled myself from the promotional designs, and that was my mistake.

 

[deathshead2]

This is a very big surprise.

 

[Dread]

I get that they are recycling work done on that show for Avengers. But the whole thing with the solo Hulk series is still no more now and I think it's plain to see that Incredible Hulk wasn't a huge enough hit to warrant his own show, and it makes more sense to bolster and prop up a new Avengers cartoon a lot more in conjunction with the Avengers movie.

It wasn't spoken to me, but, yeah, I agree this was the right move. There is more interest in Avengers right now than Hulk solo. Besides, Hulk at least can show up in Avengers as a character casual viewers already recognize.

Dread, I think you know that I am just as much of a Colossus fan as you are and I would want to see a lot more Colossus in this series. To answer your question, I don't know. I think only Greg Johnson, Craig Kyle, Steve Gordon, and Chris Yost could answer it better. My hope is that there might be a plan in re-introducing Colossus.

All I know is Greg Johnson was interviewed by the hosts of the Beyond Evolution website at Toonzone.net and claimed he would have liked to focus a little more on the character, but needed another season. Considering that, one could almost be surprised he was so quick to ditch the metal man given another 26 episodes and an X-Men show with less demands for "teenage stuff" as Evolution had from Kid's WB.

My other idea is that Colossus is a bit of a Deus Ex Machina. Forge fulfills a certain role in that he's the tech and inventor of the team. Iceman's a popular character that's been in the movies, and he's also a younger, male character. Beast sort of seems to serve a role of being a strong man and power house for the team that I think Colossus would normally fill.

In a way that may be true. But Beast isn't nearly as strong. At most in most shows, he breaks a sweat trying to lift a small car. Colossus can chuck tanks like nothing.

You reap what you sow. Iceman hadn't been terribly popular for years, and then when the movies decided to introduce mass audiences to him, he started to make a resurgence. Gambit and Jubilee were incredibly new characters when the X-MEN cartoon debuted in 1992-1993, and that helped launch Gambit to A-List status during the 90's.

But, as I have said, in a sad way is isn't surprising that he got punted for another X-Men cartoon. It is par for the course.

Dread, remember when JLU started? Remember how Flash just suddenly disappeared for the show and didn't do a darn thing for like a whole entire season. When he was around he was just in the background and didn't ever speak up. Then suddenly they brought Flash back and made him an important fixture of the show again and he even talked about how he wasn't getting attention anymore despite being a member of the original seven.

So that's why I'm hoping at some point Colossus will be brought back into the fold and get the attention he deserves. And sometimes you have to be patient. A second season of 26 episodes is now in production. That means we could finally see more Colossus in season 2.

Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me. It is POSSIBLE that outcome could be done with Colossus. But I don't see it as terribly likely without some more proof that is a direction we are going. Flash at least had being "the comic relief" going for him, which made having him go against type when it really counted effective. Again, writers struggle with Colossus because they see him as a stock, "nice guy". But there are ways to play with that. Plus, it would be nice one of these days to have Colossus say more than 4 lines to Kitty on screen somewhere.

Patience is a virtue that is exploited by those without nerve. Sometimes you have to get off your duff and DO IT.

I misled myself from the promotional designs, and that was my mistake.

Yes, it was.

It is interesting that Colossus is on promotional material yet not in much of the show. It reminds me, and you'll hate the example, of Captain America being included in the intro, commercials, and promotional artwork for AVENGERS: UNITED THEY STAND in 1999 despite only appearing in a single episode. Why is Colossus in the promo material? Easy; he has a distinct design and a lot of people know who he is. Now, why can't they translate that into actually writing him in the show, considering the talent involved, is mind-boggling.