Apocalypse X-Men: Apocalypse Box Office Prediction Thread - Part 6

[GuestStar2004]

Did FOX maybe focuses on different countries to sell the movie which effected other boxoffice results...?

it was originally thought with the lack of bing bing fan that the box office wouldn't do as well in china, but it actually did better, just shows the box office really isn't all that predictable

 

[superweirdo87]

The movie will make slightly over 535. I wonder how much of the original team advantage comes down to the inclusion of Wolverine.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vx8RDFknMEg

I hate to say it, but it seems like Fox will reboot. Daniel Alter, a producer of really bad movies who's a fanboy and has a sharp instinct for box office, has said that he does not think the gross is big enough to warrant continuing with another chapter in this chronology.

 

[YoungBlood]

Ooh boy, here we go with more reboot talk.

 

[GuestStar2004]

I have heard quite a few reviewers on youtube say how confused they are by how harsh the critics were on X-Men: Apocalypse, and i watched the movie again quite recently and i still don't get the negativity towards it... did it deserve the 47% rating? i personally don't think so.

 

[DavidHaller]

don't they have all the freedom in the world to do whatever they like with this new cast at the moment?

Would make a reboot different than the situation we got after 'X-Men: Apocalypse'...?

the new cast is also so cheap they can cast a bunch of big famous hollywood actors/actresses as new characters: Brad Pitt as Kitty Pryde or something sellable.

 

[kineticist]

I find it very hard to believe that they'll reboot.

 

[JEM]

The movie will make slightly over 535. I wonder how much of the original team advantage comes down to the inclusion of Wolverine.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vx8RDFknMEg

I hate to say it, but it seems like Fox will reboot. Daniel Alter, a producer of really bad movies who's a fanboy and has a sharp instinct for box office, has said that he does not think the gross is big enough to warrant continuing with another chapter in this chronology.

I think you will have to wait and see if Fox and co have already plan in future movie. Reboot a franchise and one thing, reboot a universe is different.

For exemple, you have X23
- Miller said he wants to see Deadpool fight X23
- We know she will be in Wolverine 3
- She could have a big role in X-Force and Deadpool will be in the movie too.

Yeah people said Deadpool isn't connected but sooner than later he will have more connection with X world. If we see X23 in W3 and X-Force, the connection is here.

Other point is Sinister
- We saw the post credit scene in XA
- He could have some role in Wolverine 3 because Weapon X seems to be a big part.
- In the comics, he had link with Cable
- Ajax plan in Deadpool have similarities with Sinister's action in the comics.

In fact, Kinberg team seems to introduce a lot of thing that connect Wolverine 3, Deadpool, X Force. So i they wants reboot, they have a strange strategy.
What the point to introduce X23 if you reboot the character 2 years later ?

 

[Iceman]

I have heard quite a few reviews on youtube say how confused they are by how harsh the critics were on X-Men: Apocalypse, and i watched the movie again quite recently and i still don't get the negativity towards it... did it deserve the 47% rating? i personally don't think so.

I'm surprised the reviews aren't better. I wouldn't have expected anywhere near the likes of DOFP or X2 but at least more positive/mixed rather than just mixed. I certainly think it's better than many other films that received a similar reception.

 

[def28]

I don't understand the China argument to be honest. so how much marketing budget did FOX invest into the new Chinese market, which they did not use to promote the movie in other countries like they did in past years? You say the market changed since the early 2000 years. So how did FOX's marketing plan changed for these movies? Did FOX maybe focuses on different countries to sell the movie which effected other boxoffice results...?

X-Men 1,2,3, XMOW were either not released in China at all, or they were released in very select territories making no more then 2m.

Those films like Deadpool were simply not playing there. I'm not even sure First Class was. There is no comparable China release for those films. So if you want to compare the success of the franchise and how it did compared to the others it's best to look at the other territories and compare. Or compare DOFP and Apocalypse's China numbers to get a sense at how well the other films would have done had they opened there.

Nowadays, you can make as much there as you do in North America. Again, this was not the case last decade. As for how much they spent on marketing in China this go around, enough to almost match the box office returns of North America. I very well doubt this was a movie that just spread because of wom and not an expensive campaign.

 

[GuestStar2004]

Fox ain't rebooting anytime soon, yes Sony did it with Spider-Man so it's the new cool thing but nah fox have plenty of options with this universe and they also have plenty of options to help boost another X-men team movie in the same universe if they chose to take those risks.

 

[DavidHaller]

I have heard quite a few reviews on youtube say how confused they are by how harsh the critics were on X-Men: Apocalypse, and i watched the movie again quite recently and i still don't get the negativity towards it... did it deserve the 47% rating? i personally don't think so.

don't get me started...I totally understand the critics!! I was also EXTREMELY disappointed how dumb and dull this movie was in comparison to everything else Singer did with his previous movies. He completely lost it right after the Quicksilver's scene: the movie was overly melo-dramatic, had very awkward tonal shifts, bad choreographed action scenes, NO IMAGINATION whatsoever, a bad/basic script (they basically re-did THE MUMY with Brendan Fraser) and NO reasonable character motivations at all (nobody gives a **** what Magneto and Storm just did in Egypt?), etc. etc.

Singer's directing clearly mirrored Lawrence acting: "damn, we are bound by contract. Let's get over with it and move on. Plot? We don't need a plot."


I just read the "Dark Angel Saga"...honestly, with a little bit of imagination Apocalypse could have be such an amazing adversary. Instead of global unmotivated destruction what about using a concept like TABULA RASA? so many option but Singer and Kinberg just forgot the plot...

 

[def28]

I just read the "Dark Angel Saga"...honestly, with a little bit of imagination Apocalypse could have be such an amazing adversary. Instead of global unmotivated destruction what about using a concept like TABULA RASA? so many option but Singer and Kinberg just forgot the plot...

Apocalypse should have set up that storyline for X-Force. But they have issues working together with these films.

 

[DavidHaller]

Apocalypse should have set up that storyline for X-Force. But they have issues working together with these films.

that's so true. They could have used "X-Men: Apocalypse" perfectly as a stepping stone to adapt Rick Remender's glorious "Uncanny X-Force" run! They could have even used Mr. Sinister to clone Apocalpyse and let Deadpool be the one to kill the child which would have triggered Angel's evolution into the new Apocalypse...perfect X-Force movie story!

But unfortunately En Sabah Nur was such a horribly dull enemy that using his clone will not excite anybody...Psylocke: 'buhu, they cloned Apocalypse. Shall we assemble a team to bring him down before it is too late?" Deadpool: "whatever, send some x-kids to stop him" end of movie. Apocalypse never felt like a real danger to justify more movies about him.

what a waste...

 

[def28]

With all that Fox introduced this year and with them wanting to move forward with X-Force it was really the story to set up or at least grab heavy influence from.

Given that it's easily the most critically received vol of X-Force and only vol that has Deadpool as a member hopefully someone will take something from it. It's a difficult run to ignore.

 

[RLAAMJR.]

Most likely no the closest thing we could do is 550 at most.

so sad.

 

[RLAAMJR.]

I want another director.

 

[Snikt]

I want another director.

You were fine with Singer before Apocalypse came out. I seem to remember reading how you were a strong supporter of Singer. It's ok to want a new director (which I think will happen).

But you seem pretty wishy/washy with the film.

 

[RLAAMJR.]

You were fine with Singer before Apocalypse came out. I seem to remember reading how you were a strong supporter of Singer. It's ok to want a new director (which I think will happen).

But you seem pretty wishy/washy with the film.

I've changed my mind. I enjoyed the movie but I want another director to direct an xmen film.

 

[Sithborg]

Why does no one seem to believe Singer is taking a break?

 

[BeholdMe]

Don't play naive with me, well your probably not playing. You know very well what I'm talking about, I'm bored of this conversation with you.

 

[BeholdMe]

The movie will make slightly over 535. I wonder how much of the original team advantage comes down to the inclusion of Wolverine.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vx8RDFknMEg

I hate to say it, but it seems like Fox will reboot. Daniel Alter, a producer of really bad movies who's a fanboy and has a sharp instinct for box office, has said that he does not think the gross is big enough to warrant continuing with another chapter in this chronology.

What! They are not rebooting some of y'all are totally overdramatic about this franchise, the numbers are disappointing not bad and it's something that could easily be fixed next film by changing some things around. Nothing about the box office says a reboot is mandatory. They just need to do things differently next film. Only reason I could see a reboot is if they truly just want to start from scratch and get the franchise on track with all the missteps some in which will be hard to fix but I just don't see that as the case here, they will likely move forward from Apocalypse next movie set in the 90s as planned. I'm just hoping Singer takes a break and someone else takes the reigns for awhile.

 

[jaymes_e06]

It's getting comical isn't it BeholdMe?

Is there an adequate translation for the German word 'Schadenfreude' in English...? I feel like many people here are a little bit too filled with malicious joy that the X-Men movies have FINALLY disappointed at the boxoffice...

Yeah, we all got it. The newest X-Men movie bomded haaaard. buhu, capitalist catastrophe of apocalyptic proportion. Singer has failed miserably and has to pay Jennifer Lawrence's salary from his own pocket money now.


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I don't understand the China argument to be honest. so how much marketing budget did FOX invest into the new Chinese market, which they did not use to promote the movie in other countries like they did in past years? You say the market changed since the early 2000 years. So how did FOX's marketing plan changed for these movies? Did FOX maybe focuses on different countries to sell the movie which effected other boxoffice results...?

Yep people act like China is somehow always cranking out 100 to 200 million dollar grosses for action blockbusters. This is not the case.

 

[BeholdMe]

It's getting comical isn't it BeholdMe?

Yep people act like China is somehow always cranking out 100 to 200 million dollar grosses for action blockbusters. This is not the case.

it is Jaymes, I can't with some of the people up here.

 

[Sithborg]

I mean, if Pacific Rim can make $100 mill in China, it must not be hard. Right?

 

[def28]

Warcraft pumped out 200m there. Terminator Genysis 113m. TMNT 2 just opened #1 there. It's been the saving grace of many. Heck, Transformers pulls in over 300m alone there now.

When X-Men got a China release it's worldwide numbers went up. As it should have. It's a huge market. Arguing against that is just....odd.