Dark Phoenix X-Men: Dark Phoenix News and Speculation Thread - - - - Part 13

[psylockolussus]

Quality over quantity. Also 3 MCU films per year isn't so few. Xpecially there was a time when we had to wait 3 years for another X-Men film. Even Fox these days couldn't keep their proposed plans like we were supposed to get 3 X-Men films this year lol and not just one.

 

[psylockolussus]

We can get that fresh take outside of the MCU as well and crossovers are quickly losing their appeal to me.

But not to the general public. And they make these big films mostly for the general public who are willing to pay.

 

[Drexelhand]

A Justin Lin X-Men movie would certainly be interesting, it would definitely be high octane.

 

[Drexelhand]

Universal released Hulk, Howard the Duck and The Incredible Hulk. They also got the rights for Luke Cage before. They still got the distribution rights for Hulk and Namor films.

And if they had Zero Xprience in making comic book films, why would you want the X-Men to go there?

Also you've forgotten Wanted, the Hellboy films, Cowboys & Aliens, Oblivion, R.I.PD., Two Guns, Scott Pilgrim and the Kick Ass films.

I literally talked about Hulk, Howard the Duck was Lucasfilm with Universal as a distributor, The Incredible Hulk is something everyone forgot about, Hellboy was Columbia and the rest barely count as adaptations. And I never said I wanted the X-Men to go there. One page ago you make this big post: "NOBODY SPEAKS FOR ME!" and then here you go and try to put words in my mouth? Try not to be a hypocrite.

 

[psylockolussus]

And what about the other comic book films that I have mentioned? You clearly said they have zero Xperience in cb films yet they are attached to many of them. And so what if they just distributed? They still distributed a bad film under their name? How is that okay?

Between the two, Universal has the inferior track record. I really don't think you have X-Men's best interest when you are consistently hoping it goes away from its parent company and hoping it goes to a company who doesn't have a lot of comic book films.

 

[Erik Lensherr]

A Justin Lin X-Men movie would certainly be interesting, it would definitely be high octane.

Or a Chris Nolan and Noah Hawley X-Men movie (Days of Future Past & Dark Phoenix)

 

[Drexelhand]

And what about the other comic book films that I have mentioned? You clearly said they have zero Xperience in cb films yet they are attached to many of them. And so what if they just distributed? They still distributed a bad film under their name? How is that okay?

Between the two, Universal has the inferior track record. I really don't think you have X-Men's best interest when you are consistently hoping it goes away from its parent company and hoping it goes to a company who doesn't have a lot of comic book films.

And you clearly didn't read when I mentioned the change in Universal Studios' management and are trying to act like that the studio has been the same studio since the 80s - when it hasn't even been the same studio since September 2013. And so what if they distributed? Do you even know what distribution is? For someone who's claimed to have worked in entertainment, you really know nothing about it. You really don't think I have the X-Men's best interest in mind? When the hell did I say I was hoping it goes away from its parent company? What I've repeatedly mentioned is that Fox shouldn't be selling, something you've been celebrating and ONCE AGAIN you are saying that I want X-Men to go to Universal Studios. When the hell did I say that? Stop being a hypocrite.

 

[DACrowe]

Fox is better off at Comcast; the Fantastic Four as a single IP are better off at Disney; and the X-Men it could go either way.

Easy, I root for the one that will likely not lay off most of the studio and continue to allow execs to take more creative risks than Disney has for the last five or six years.

With that said, I fully expect Disney to outbid Comcast and get Fox back. I wonder if they do though, this means it starts the whole process over again of approval review by the government?

 

[Drexelhand]

Either merger is still going to cause thousands to lose their jobs but Comcast can merge with a bid all the way up to feasibly $90 billion and handle the debt because of what they are, Disney cannot. Murdoch is a cheap son of a *****.

 

[psylockolussus]

Fox and Disney are already in good terms. Comcast is like that clingy suitor who has already been rejected and still wouldn't just move on. The thirst is real!

 

[psylockolussus]

And you clearly didn't read when I mentioned the change in Universal Studios' management and are trying to act like that the studio has been the same studio since the 80s - when it hasn't even been the same studio since September 2013. And so what if they distributed? Do you even know what distribution is? For someone who's claimed to have worked in entertainment, you really know nothing about it. You really don't think I have the X-Men's best interest in mind? When the hell did I say I was hoping it goes away from its parent company? What I've repeatedly mentioned is that Fox shouldn't be selling, something you've been celebrating and ONCE AGAIN you are saying that I want X-Men to go to Universal Studios. When the hell did I say that? Stop being a hypocrite.

You should watch Universal Pictures' comic book films.

 

[EnDz0n3]

I know I was agreeing with the sentiment with sarcasm because everyone was making it seem like reshoots equal bad movie like all films that have them are doomed to fail but most films have them including Avengers 4. People like to have the world is falling mentality about this film for no reason.

Huh?

Most people know most big budget movies nowadays have prescheduled reshoots. People's apprehensions about these Dark Phoenix reshoots is because they were either not scheduled properly to take into account the cast's availability (from a supposed master producer) or they really are quite extensive to cause the movie to delay its release. The third option is they were afraid to go head-to-head with the NutCracker...

The entire concept of mutants being introduced is tricky. Disney isn't going to put out these X-Men properties as frequently as fox. So I'd imagine some characters aren't going to see the light of day for quite some time. There are definitely concerns.

As has already been mentioned we only got 1 X-men movie this year. With possibly 2 next year though who knows if New Mutants will get a big screen release.

Fox's previous X-men releases were 1 film every 3 years. 2016 was the only year with 2 films...

 

[DACrowe]

Either merger is still going to cause thousands to lose their jobs but Comcast can merge with a bid all the way up to feasibly $90 billion and handle the debt because of what they are, Disney cannot. Murdoch is a cheap son of a *****.

Yes, but I could be completely wrong, but I think Comcast would allow Fox to remain a studio as opposed to slowly siphoning it off into a production company, if you get my meaning. They have allowed Universal to take a lot of risks (not all of which have panned out as successfully as Fox's pretty above par run since 2012 or so), but they're interested in more than just only IP. Disney has shrunk all of its non-IP and brand focuses for the last 8 years. I have little reason to believe they will not continue to do the same to Fox.

 

[Jh7058622]

Fox and Disney are already in good terms. Comcast is like that clingy suitor who has already been rejected and still wouldn't just move on. The thirst is real!

Fox is a business it isn't about a popularity contest. How old are you seriously I get 17 year old at best?

 

[psylockolussus]

Well Fox went to Disney first... So why didn't they approach Comcast first? Why did they reject Comcast?

As has already been mentioned we only got 1 X-men movie this year. With possibly 2 next year though who knows if New Mutants will get a big screen release.

Fox's previous X-men releases were 1 film every 3 years. 2016 was the only year with 2 films...

And 1 of them turned out bad. Also Gambit was supposed to come out that year as well.

 

[fobi]

Fox and Disney are already in good terms. Comcast is like that clingy suitor who has already been rejected and still wouldn't just move on. The thirst is real!

Means nothing when billions of dollars in cash is in play.

 

[psylockolussus]

And do you know both companies would have to pay Disney as well since this is already up for approval?

Anyway, its gonna be X-Men's loss not exactly Disney as Disney is doing fine right now. X-Men under Universal? I can only imagine the setbacks.

 

[Drexelhand]

You should watch Universal Pictures' comic book films.

And you should widen your view.

 

[psylockolussus]

I wasn't the one who have said Universal has no Xperience in comic book films. I'd start with R.I.P.D. and wonder if the mutants really could thrive under a Comcast owned Fox.

 

[fobi]

And do you know both companies would have to pay Disney as well since this is already up for approval?

Anyway, its gonna be X-Men's loss not exactly Disney as Disney is doing fine right now. X-Men under Universal? I can only imagine the setbacks.

Only Comcast would. Part of their offer is that they'll pay the penalty fees for Fox. Clearly Comcast has money to burn so what's another 2-3 billion for them? lol

 

[psylockolussus]

So what is the advantage of the X-Men going to Comcast then? More of the same old story? Are we gonna get X-Men cartoons and videogames under Comcast? Would Kinberg continue to oversee things like the troubled films the New Mutants and Gambit?

 

[Drexelhand]

I wasn't the one who have said Universal has no Xperience in comic book films. I'd start with R.I.P.D. and wonder if the mutants really could thrive under a Comcast owned Fox.

RIPD, a film produced in 2012 prior to the September 2013 management change that resulted in the current entity of Universal Studios. A simple Google search would aid you dearly.

You were the one who celebrated Rupert Murdoch's corrupt measures, you were the one who bashed this film before even Kinberg was announced on it, you were the one who repeatedly refused to realize that X-Factor was an equal title to Uncanny X-Men ala Superman/Batman to Action/Detective despite evidence being presented against your view, you were the one who called Logan overrated because it went against your narrative, you were the one who called Kinberg a terrible producer because it went against your narrative, you were the one who called Apocalypse a box office failure (when it was at worst a disappointment, as cited by Fox heads) because it went against your narrative, you were the one whose repeatedly reported users when they've gone against your narrative, you were the one who spent so long hyping up Apocalypse only to turn on it three weeks before release when reviews came out.

Did I get you right?

 

[psylockolussus]

I don't know what you're talking about.

 

[Drexelhand]

I don't know what you're talking about.

Oh goodie.

 

[Jh7058622]

Well Fox went to Disney first... So why didn't they approach Comcast first? Why did they reject Comcast?

And 1 of them turned out bad. Also Gambit was supposed to come out that year as well.

You come across kinda childish "Why didn't they ask Comcast huh huh HUH?!" Calm down dude we're just having a conversation. Think for a second why sell a studio in the first place if not to acquire more money? Just to be apart of the cool kids table? I think not. They wouldn't be entertaining a bid from them and Comcast would not have upped the bid and thus outbid Disney's if they weren't still in talks on both ends.