Dark Phoenix X-Men: Dark Phoenix News and Speculation Thread - - - - - - Part 15

[GuestStar2004]

Those lists have been going on for years now by various sites. all different results based on different opinions.

 

[Charzhin0]

I agree that fox missed opportunities with the xmen franchise, but people always forget to look at the reality of society 15 years ago ... did not have all this support for diversity..the xmen franchise start in a totally different era and society.
after the success of BP and WW opened a way to explore more and more black characters and women as protagonist.
formerly what were the main examples? blade, shaft, catwoman and elektra, none of the 4 had big box office ..

Also add The Wolverine which was the first to do an ethnic group dominant movie before black panther.

 

[Nadia]

Also add The Wolverine which was the first to do an ethnic group dominant movie before black panther.

And set primarily in Japan.

 

[Endeavor]

well those movies are better than Apocalypse.

Wait
I agree about DP2
But which F4?
Not the Kinberg/Trank atrocity...

 

[Davidstorm]

Also add The Wolverine which was the first to do an ethnic group dominant movie before black panther.

Yes, I forgot that
Overall the x-men franchise on fox had quite a bit of representation, maybe not in the way that some wanted.
and if we are to talk about fox, they have always risked doing things that others are only doing now.

 

[GuestStar2004]

March 26, 2019 – Kansas City, MO – Boulevard Brewing Company today announced a partnership with 20th Century Fox and its highly anticipated film Dark Phoenix, marking the studio’s first collaboration with a craft brewer. Boulevard’s latest year-round beer, Space Camper Cosmic IPA, will get a new X-Men inspired look and blockbuster perks to celebrate the new release in theaters June 7.
Space Camper’s new limited-edition packaging features a Dark Phoenix icon floating over a prominent “X” with the beer’s orange, grey, white and black branding. In addition to the original six-packs of 12oz cans, Space Camper will be available in single-serve 16oz cans, primarily for venues and events.

Soon fans will also be able to watch the action on the big screen with a Space Camper in hand – a can’t miss X-perience. Starting on May 29, Boulevard’s Space Camper will be the first beer ever to star as an AMC Movie Feature Drink at more than 300 AMC Theatres’ MacGuffins adult beverage concepts. Fandango codes for $3 off Dark Phoenix movie tickets will also be available on Space Camper six-packs nationwide.

 

[psylockolussus]

Wait
I agree about DP2
But which F4?
Not the Kinberg/Trank atrocity...

2005 f4.

 

[Endeavor]

2005 f4.

Then yes

 

[Davidstorm]

How nice
Marketing is happening.

 

[Nadia]

How nice
Marketing is happening.

I don't know if it's a big deal, but in the UK I'm getting the "international" trailer as adds before YouTube videos.

I presume it's not random, and they have to pay for it.

 

[Davidstorm]

I don't know if it's a big deal, but in the UK I'm getting the "international" trailer as adds before YouTube videos.

I presume it's not random, and they have to pay for it.

here in brazil, the movie is with some big posters in cinemas
at least things are happening, need improvement but they still have 2 months to intensify this

 

[carpenter82]

Sophie Turner did an interview with Rolling Stone primarily for Game of Thrones. However, she did briefly discuss Dark Phoenix.
Sophie Turner Calls New X-Men Movie "'Dark Phoenix' Done Right"

In The Rolling Stones interview she also said her time with Bryan Singer was "unpleasant".

 

[carpenter82]

New interview with Kinberg. Dark Phoenix talk is around 3:10.
Simon Kinberg Talks 'The Twilight Zone' and 'X-Men' (Exclusive)

 

[carpenter82]

A fan on Tumblr made this comparison

 

[Marvel united]

I wonder if they'll do something like a "Thank you" at the end of the film with some of the original cast. They have 3 months in advance

 

[GuestStar2004]

That sounds abit silly. So probably not.

 

[Nadia]

A fan on Tumblr made this comparison

They seem oddly identical (right down to the colours).

That xmen red run is also quite recent.

*puts on tin foil hat*

Also Casandra Nova is the villian throughout that run.

 

[Necrom]

Honestly, this image brought to the screen would be the PERFECT ENDING for the movie in my eyes. Instead of killing Jean again (!!!), what about showing her in all her glory becoming a new godlike heroine for humanity floating in space above earth and articulating these hopeful words: "I can hear your pain. I don't know how to help you yet. But I will learn." The first couple of issues of X-Men: RED have been very smart and beautifully written. I loved Jean's idea of creating a mutant nation without national borders. THIS articulate and political Jean Grey from X-Men: RED should be Jean Grey in the end of the movie (or at least pointing into this direction).

The end of the original comic book storyline is also very dated in my eyes (although beautiful) and I think we need more hopeful female empowerment in the cinematic depiction of Jean Grey in 2019.

Jean struggles throughout the movie but finally becomes the new heroine our world needs.

 

[Alison Blaire]

Sophie Turner did an interview with Rolling Stone primarily for Game of Thrones. However, she did briefly discuss Dark Phoenix.
Sophie Turner Calls New X-Men Movie "'Dark Phoenix' Done Right"

In The Rolling Stones interview she also said her time with Bryan Singer was "unpleasant".

I think Sophie it's opportunistic

 

[Necrom]

well, I don't know. Everyone who saw X-Men: Apocalypse in comparison to Days of Future Past and X2 sees that something went very wrong during production. Singer not being there for large parts of the movie is a good explanation why X-Men: Apocalypse turned out to feel nothing like a Bryan Singer movie!

So I totally understand why an actress can be angered by this unprofessional behavior and calls the time together unpleasant.

She still is allowed to be polite with this guy. What can she do. There is a contract that forces her to go on press tour with him even if she had an unpleasant working experience with him.

Also these "new" allegations are also still up in the air. Why should she articulate any sympathy for him at this moment?

 

[Alison Blaire]

 

[Necrom]

I'm sorry, this video tells us nothing. It showcases standard professional behavior by actors. Who is badmouthing the director while promoting a movie?!? "The movie turned out to be ****, because the director did not care about the movie at all during production. Go, see the movie!"

 

[Necrom]

Speaking of Apocalypse...I find it a more interesting to debate if Bryan Singer was inspired by Afro-American Sci-Fi writer Octavia Butler's novel Wild Seed (1980) for the character Apocalypse (than speaking about behind the scene gossip...).

Butler wrote a story about how a mutant called Doro dating back to old Egypt (!), was one of the first mutants and could take over other mutants bodies (!) and thereby prolong his existence (!). It's crazy how much the character resembles Apocalypse in the movie and the book predates the creation of Apocalypse in the comics.

 

[Frankeh]

This is probably a debate for another thread, but you can't use pictures like that against Turner.

You can find pictures of Hollywood actresses cozying up with Harvey Weinstein.

You can also probably find happy pictures of a couple in an abusive relationship.

It's just a picture, it doesn't define an entire relationship work or otherwise. And in the case of work, there's an obvious power structure working against you.

 

[magneto23]

Meanwhile, in Dark Phoenix, we have two female leads - though both are white.

One (Chastain) is manipulative and evil; the other (Turner) is dangerous and mentally unstable. Go, girl power!

Xavier is proved to be (once again) a lying, controlling, deceitful fool, Magneto obviously always has his own agenda and can never really be trusted, so where is the moral compass, the shining light, in this story?

Is it Mystique, who looks to meet a terrible fate? It could be Storm if she has more to say and do than that one line in the trailer about not knowing who people are until it's too late, but that seems doubtful. So are we looking at Cyclops and Beast, both played by two white men, to carry the moral weight of this story?

Two white guys. Oh the horror! For this story, a Jean centric story, why wouldn't Cyclops be that "shining light"?