Dark Phoenix X-Men: Dark Phoenix News and Speculation Thread - - - - - - Part 15

[Matt.S99]

I was just watching the Wolverine about an hour ago.
I know that Logan is technically the better film and I do love it, but I think the Wolverine is my favourite of the solo films.
The ending is a bit silly and over the top, but everything else is near perfect. And I loved seeing Jean again.

 

[carpenter82]

I was just watching the Wolverine about an hour ago.
I know that Logan is technically the better film and I do love it, but I think the Wolverine is my favourite of the solo films.
The ending is a bit silly and over the top, but everything else is near perfect. And I loved seeing Jean again.

The final fight, and Viper are the weakest parts to me. However, the rest of the film is solid.

 

[icekid]

The Wolverine was good when I saw it the first time, granted I saw it during a fan event where Hugh appeared before the movie and we were all still off the energy of that whole thing. Seeing Jean was nice and it was a decent send off for her iteration, although still tied to Logan. I remember being bummed at the time that we didn’t see Storm even though she was clearly hinted at in the post credits scene as having been present, but no one scrutinized Xavier’s return in that or DoFP nearly as much as they do *ahem* anything else.

 

[psylockolussus]

Great dress,beautiful dress .

 

[Charzhin0]

The Wolverine being set outside America was a big subversion to all the superhero movies at the time taking place in big metropolitan U.S cities. I liked the Japanese setting a lot especially the Hiroshima nuke scene, very reminiscent of X1s holocaust opening. The ending is a bit derivative though and to this day I still dont understand what Vipers motivations where.

 

[psylockolussus]

Gonna be posting around here now that I've seen Captain Marvel and Shazam. Anyone else doing an X-Men marathon leading up to this? I'm planning on watching the main six films after Avengers comes out

I don't think so. I might marathon the 12 films though before the MCU reboot.

I just don't need to see the first 11 films as a preparation to the film that will forever the franchise's legacy.

 

[Web-Head]

I don't think so. I might marathon the 12 films though before the MCU reboot.

I just don't need to see the first 11 films as a preparation to the film that will forever the franchise's legacy.

I do. Since this is going to be the last entry in the Fox X-Men series, it'll be nice to watch all 6 movies leading up to it.

 

[psyonic]

XCU ending with a Dark Phoenix two parter with Shi'ar would have been epic.. Sadly it's going to be such a whimper lmao zzz ;(

 

[EnDz0n3]

Great dress,beautiful dress .

Watch the narrative turn to: “they’re two different materials and Sophie is wearing jeans.”

They previously tried the: “Sophie’s jacket isn’t red” talking point. Thank god they’ve accepted that it’s now red.

 

[SumT]

Watch narrative turn to they’re two different materials and Sophie is wearing jeans.

Which means a cheaper work 13 years later. Talk about an ambitious Fox

So lame and uninspired. Glad the studio is basically done, and now has new bosses.

 

[carpenter82]

X-Men films reports that the premiere for Dark Phoenix will be held at the TCL Chinese Theatre on June 4.

Hollywood premiere for DARK PHOENIX taking place on June 4th?

 

[Erik Lensherr]

 

[Charzhin0]

I really dont like that they are using that cliched over used phrase of "people fear what they dont understand"

Sorry Kinberg but that is lazy dialogue

 

[SumT]

how old is that quote? from the 60s?
dated franchise indeed

 

[X-Maniac]

One of the great shadows over this franchise is not making enough of the diversity afforded by the source material.

Instead we have to read online the various untrue proclamations about MCU being first with a black superhero, first with a female superhero, first with an Asian superhero (Quake in AoS series) - and now wanting an openly gay actor for its Eternals movie.

If only Fox had made more of the other characters instead of focusing on three white males (Xavier, Magneto, Wolverine) and one white, blonde actress whose character (Mystique) has been made into a hero while Storm and others make a pretty backdrop.

They missed a trick or two, I think.

Meanwhile, in Dark Phoenix, we have two female leads - though both are white.

One (Chastain) is manipulative and evil; the other (Turner) is dangerous and mentally unstable. Go, girl power!

Xavier is proved to be (once again) a lying, controlling, deceitful fool, Magneto obviously always has his own agenda and can never really be trusted, so where is the moral compass, the shining light, in this story?

Is it Mystique, who looks to meet a terrible fate? It could be Storm if she has more to say and do than that one line in the trailer about not knowing who people are until it's too late, but that seems doubtful. So are we looking at Cyclops and Beast, both played by two white men, to carry the moral weight of this story?

 

[SumT]

Yeah, Fox should have called it White-Men: Dark Phoenix. Much more accurate

 

[BMM]

One of the great shadows over this franchise is not making enough of the diversity afforded by the source material.

Instead we have to read online the various untrue proclamations about MCU being first with a black superhero, first with a female superhero, first with an Asian superhero (Quake in AoS series) - and now wanting an openly gay actor for its Eternals movie.

If only Fox had made more of the other characters instead of focusing on three white males (Xavier, Magneto, Wolverine) and one white, blonde actress whose character (Mystique) has been made into a hero while Storm and others make a pretty backdrop.

They missed a trick or two, I think.

Meanwhile, in Dark Phoenix, we have two female leads - though both are white.

One (Chastain) is manipulative and evil; the other (Turner) is dangerous and mentally unstable. Go, girl power!

Xavier is proved to be (once again) a lying, controlling, deceitful fool, Magneto obviously always has his own agenda and can never really be trusted, so where is the moral compass, the shining light, in this story?

Is it Mystique, who looks to meet a terrible fate? It could be Storm if she has more to say and do than that one line in the trailer about not knowing who people are until it's too late, but that seems doubtful. So are we looking at Cyclops and Beast, both played by two white men, to carry the moral weight of this story?

Ultimately, I think the X-Men franchise helped pave the way for modern superhero movies but was left behind in the end. That shouldn't diminish its accomplishments, though. It normalized female superheroes on the big screen, while other franchises, like Spider-Man, were still content to have women serve as damsels in distress. It starred openly gay actors and even had a "coming out" scene in a summer tentpole in Bush era America. It also normalized that people with disabilities can be heroes, too, and is home to some of the handful of Jewish Marvel characters, another underrepresented minority. Of course, people seem to overlook these last two, because they're so hellbent on reducing people to the color of their skin, they forget there are other forms of representation out there. That isn't a slight against you. It's just something I've noticed, when people discuss Magneto and Professor X.

Yeah, Fox should have called it White-Men: Dark Phoenix. Much more accurate

Says the person with a white X-man as their avatar.

 

[Alison Blaire]

Every Fox/Marvel Movie Ranked, From Worst To Best

 

[carpenter82]

Every Fox/Marvel Movie Ranked, From Worst To Best

Apocalypse below Fantastic Four, and Deadpool 2?

 

[Nardz937]

That list is atrocious.

 

[Charzhin0]

So are we looking at Cyclops and Beast, both played by two white men, to carry the moral weight of this story?

Yes, along with Storm most likely. Just as Beast, Wolverine and Storm were in X3. Why are you singling some of their races out i dont understand. If this is another swipe at Fox, didnt they cast a black Johnny Storm.

 

[Alison Blaire]

Apocalypse below Fantastic Four, and Deadpool 2?

X2 the best Xmen movie.I love it

 

[psylockolussus]

Apocalypse below Fantastic Four, and Deadpool 2?

well those movies are better than Apocalypse.

 

[Davidstorm]

I agree that fox missed opportunities with the xmen franchise, but people always forget to look at the reality of society 15 years ago ... did not have all this support for diversity..the xmen franchise start in a totally different era and society.
after the success of BP and WW opened a way to explore more and more black characters and women as protagonist.
formerly what were the main examples? blade, shaft, catwoman and elektra, none of the 4 had big box office ..

 

[Mya]

Every Fox/Marvel Movie Ranked, From Worst To Best

I hate those lists, they're not based on the opinion of hundred or thousands of voters but an idiot. I avoid them like the plague.