Dark Phoenix X-Men: Dark Phoenix News and Speculation Thread - - - - - - Part 15

[SumT]

but this movie is inspired by Thor: Ragnarok (an all out cosmic adventure).
inspired by Thor 3.......... for "reasons".

 

[Dumain]

I'm sure he will answer that but - come on! - you cannot film a new third act in two weeks.

As far as i can tell, it takes about three months to film a blockbuster movie. An effects-heavy sequence like the finale (with all the wirework, practical effects etc) is gonna take more than two weeks, lol. Get real!

Yeah, don't think you are working in movie or media production, so I will rather choose to believe credible news sources than your imaginary make believe claims. There was never any extensive or multiple reshoots for this movie, and reshoots are par the course for any movie today.

 

[C. Lee]

An argument about reshoots....what a surprise.

 

[psyonic]

but this movie is inspired by Thor: Ragnarok (an all out cosmic adventure).
inspired by Thor 3.......... for "reasons".

Perhaps it was like Thor 3 when it was a two parter and shi'ar was involved. But then Kinberg changed his narrative to gritty like Logan and some other stuff but I forget what bc i filter out bs.

 

[sleekstereo]

The Collider Guys are right. This trailer is targeted to the general audience who knows Sophie Turner from GOT. Disney is capitalizing on that.

 

[Mad Ones]

Chastain didn’t say “my power” did she...?

 

[psylockolussus]

It's a pity that the trailer has a poor performance on youtube

1.1 views in 11 hours!

 

[The Original Bamfer]

There was never any extensive or multiple reshoots for this movie.

Oh-ho-ho, yes there was. And I’m rooting for this film. They shot an entirely new act. That’s the definition of “extensive.” There’s no argument here. I know a couple people who are connected to the production; I know what happened in the original cut of the film and how drastically different it is in the third act. I’m not sure exactly how long reshoots took, but they were anything but “par for the course.” I’m really looking forward to the film, though, and I’ve been told the new act is a drastic improvement over the original.

 

[psylockolussus]

They shot a new third act and still cant bother to use the costumes? ugh.

 

[psyonic]

I said this a few months ago, if they could wear the costumes in the new third act because bottom line is, it's still a super hero/ comic book movie. The Jim Lee ones were great and we will never see them in action. Such a dumb move. This is why there is zero hype for this movie. NO costumes, NO villain with an identifiable name. MAGNETO AGAIN. Another watered down adaptation that is supposed to be "faithful".. just hurts my heart lol

 

[The Original Bamfer]

They shot a new third act and still cant bother to use the costumes? ugh.

Yep. Considering how the second act ends, it wouldn’t make sense at all. I guess it’s kind of neat that their civilian clothing showcases their style a lot better than the suits do. Storm’s, for example, is really flow-y and has a cape-like feel. Thematically, it makes sense too because they’re approaching the finale (and Jean) as a family, not as a team of superheroes.

 

[DACrowe]

It's not a bad trailer. The problem is it's not a great trailer either. I honestly think this might end up being a middle-of-the-road movie, which is an improvement over Apocalypse, but given the pedigree of "Dark Phoenix" and the lack of hype... it is going to flop.

 

[EnDz0n3]

Oh-ho-ho, yes there was. And I’m rooting for this film. They shot an entirely new act. That’s the definition of “extensive.” There’s no argument here. I know a couple people who are connected to the production; I know what happened in the original cut of the film and how drastically different it is in the third act. I’m not sure exactly how long reshoots took, but they were anything but “par for the course.” I’m really looking forward to the film, though, and I’ve been told the new act is a drastic improvement over the original.

Now people will only believe you (that the reshoots were extensive) because you said you are rooting for the movie.

The narrative will then change to: Who cares if the reshoots were extensive? It was for the best!

 

[DACrowe]

That fire bird looks very last minute.

What happened to the EW Naked Fiery Jean? This is nowhere to be seen so far. If it's just at the end of the movie, why put that for promotion so long ago? Doesn't make any sense.

Yeah, my guess is if they attempted it, it was so intricate when they reshot the third act, it got the axe. Which is a shame, that cover was the first and only time this movie got everyone's attention in a good way. "Oh, you're going for some kind of weird sci-fi esoteric thing? That could be cool...."

And then it's nowhere in the finished film. Unless it's her very last fire flight (which even then I doubt, because if so why isn't in the trailers?) it got lost to reshoots. Sigh, I really have given this movie so much benefit of the doubt. I still think it can turn out passable, but it should be so much more than that.

 

[The Original Bamfer]

The naked look (albeit in a pre-viz form) does...

Spoiler

...appear in the new third act during Jean’s last moments in space when she sacrifices herself to kill Chastain. I assume (and hope) it will make the final cut.

It was only meant to appear at the end of the original third act, too, when...

Spoiler

...she sacrifices herself in space to destroy the incoming alien ships.

 

[psyonic]

You can't excuse costumes in third act because of how the second act ends. This is why Kornberg is a terrible writer, you make it work to give THE X-MEN their iconic costumes in their final movie appearance. The only two parts I liked in Apocalypse was when he actually somewhat threatened the planet with nukes othwrwise he was like a boring kitten and the accurate costumes at the end. Also, EARTH BOUND PHOENIX or whatever flavour he said this movie is doesnt work. "Gritty like Logan", oh jeez.. It needed to be cosmic and metaphysical, borderline trippy.

 

[Frankeh]

The final scene of Apocalypse feels like blue balls now.

 

[The Original Bamfer]

You can't excuse costumes in third act because of how the second act ends.

Uh, yeah, you can. It’s this little concept called “story.”

 

[EnDz0n3]

Unless that second act is pitch-perfect that Kinberg couldn’t find a way for the characters to be in costumes, there really is no excuse. Considering Kinberg the writer only has to get approval from Kinberg the director, this “the studio wouldn’t let him” excuse just doesn’t fly. Besides I thought we were told this is the most director-friendly studio?

 

[DACrowe]

The naked look (albeit in a pre-viz form) does...

Spoiler

...appear in the new third act during Jean’s last moments in space when she sacrifices herself to kill Chastain. I assume (and hope) it will make the final cut.

It was only meant to appear at the end of the original third act, too, when...

Spoiler

...she sacrifices herself in space to destroy the incoming alien ships.

Hmm... are you saying:

Spoiler

It was only in one scene both times?

 

[psyonic]

Uh, yeah, you can. It’s this little concept called “story.”

You missed my point of the X-Men should be in costumes in the final act, so second act should have accommodated that. Is it really that hard to do it? Because there is nothing I'm looking forward to seeing. Costumes could have made it more appealing, not civilian clothes. If you can accept this then you're unimaginative.

 

[Mysteryman]

Costumes are not a big deal to me.
If the story is good, then, it won't matter.

 

[psyonic]

Costumes are not a big deal to me.
If the story is good, then, it won't matter.

Yeah people let this **** slide at Fox, Magneto seeing what Jean is capable of in his camp and decides to go face and kill her wearing a long coat with no armour. That's some nice logic right there Kinberg.

 

[Nadia]

Hmm... are you saying:

Spoiler

It was only in one scene both times?

Kinberg has mentioned that she slowly progresses physically as the film goes on... Spoilers.

Spoiler

It definitively sounds like they are play up the aspect oh her containing the energy of the Pheonix inside her. When she gets angry/made her skin cracks and glows.
By the finale, she is flying around with the cracks being prominent and the pink fire "aura" is radiating out and around her when she obliterating the aliens (seen in new trailer when she grabs the guys head)
Upon her decision to kill herself to take out Chastain, it sounds like that her permitting the release of all the energy within her = the full body/hair flames effect.
I believe the original ending was similar and it sounds like she released all her energy to obliterate an approaching alien fleet.[/spoilers]

 

[icekid]

Final trailer completely underwhelmed me and I think it only exists because of the whole International trailer fiasco.