Dark Phoenix X-Men: Dark Phoenix News and Speculation Thread - - - - - - Part 15

Cannot wait for the second trailer!

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The same people saying the November and February release dates were great because the summer dates had too much competition are now saying the move to June/summer release date is "strategic."

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And don't forget that mutants with less power had survived his attacks. Even regular humans had survived being stabbed.
Hell in the real world, normal every day people survive a multiple stabbing attack...
But no, yeah, that was a fantastic scene. Mmm hmm :up:
Mystique during the Statue of Liberty scene in X1 LOL stabbed in the same spot Wolverine stabs Dark Phoenix in X3.
 
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Not normally, but I bet potentially 4000 of them could do soon. ;)
I’m trying to do some detective work into the potential screening, but I know that ninja jelly is in some theatre so maybe she is viewing the screening too? She was on set and is friends with Kinberg.
 
I agree. Also fox employees aren’t exactly going to blast their own company’s product.

Probably explains why Kinberg and Jessica Chastain are in Nee York together? (His Instagram).

obviously most will be careful, but I can guarantee you that some people working at Fox arent always pleased with what they do. Hell, Im 100% sure even Lauren isnt happy with many decisions the other producers have made, including you know who.
 
obviously most will be careful, but I can guarantee you that some people working at Fox arent always pleased with what they do. Hell, Im 100% sure even Lauren isnt happy with many decisions the other producers have made, including you know who.
I’m confused as to what involvement Lauren actually has. Growing up watching the films I saw her name everywhere and she was featured in a lot of interviews. But in recent years she’s not so much of a prominent figure in the franchise.
 
I’m confused as to what involvement Lauren actually has. Growing up watching the films I saw her name everywhere and she was featured in a lot of interviews. But in recent years she’s not so much of a prominent figure in the franchise.
I'll give u a clue:

Simon Kinberg
 
I'll give u a clue:

Simon Kinberg
This guy has been a common writer producer on the franchise for a while but all those feats are a due to a compilation of artists. I feel recently he’s been given the ‘Kevin Fiege’ title of x men without actually earning that title.

But I still don’t know where Lauren Donner disappeared to, did she just give it all up to Simon?
 
This guy has been a common writer producer on the franchise for a while but all those feats are a due to a compilation of artists. I feel recently he’s been given the ‘Kevin Fiege’ title of x men without actually earning that title.

But I still don’t know where Lauren Donner disappeared to, did she just give it all up to Simon?
lets say that she was sidelined to tv.

She was the key produder of the franchise since day 1, but once Kinberg entered the scene, specially since FC, and after Dofp, she suddenly dissapeared from promotion, Singer after directing Dofp, directed The gifted pilot, lauren too, and suddenly Kinberg was the only one to stay on the movie side, and not only that, but as a director too. Fox basically put all its trust on him. None of us will ever know how Kinberg convinced Fox to let him be their "Feige"
 
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lets say that she was sidelined to tv.

She was the key produder of the franchise since day 1, but once Kinberg entered the scene, specially since FC, and after Dofp, she suddenly dissapeared from promotion, Singer after directing Dofp, directed The gifted pilot, lauren too, and suddenly Kinberg was the only one to say on the movie side, and not only that, but as a director too. Fox basically put all its trust on him. None of us will ever know how Kinberg convinced Fox to let them be their "Feige"
He is probably a good producer. That doesn’t correlate to being a good director or writer though. I’ve noticed in all his interviews he uses key words and name drops popular films. He compares his films to the recent heights of superhero cinema: Logan and Thor: ragnorok. I’m not blasting the guy, I hope the film is good, but I listen to a director talk about ‘tone’ and nothing else so much.
 
I just think that is no coincidence that Kinberg became director-writer-main producer and Bryan Singer and Lauren, both involved since X1 got out of the franchise, when Bryan still had interest in the franchise and Lauren too. something clearly happened behind the scenes that made Kinberg the one with most power.

This is Hollywood world, lets not forget.
 
I don't think simon kinberg is trying to be kevin fiege. most of the decisions seem to go straight to fox and they give it the yes or no.

The only reason people think Simon is the Kevin Fiege is because everyone seems to be expecting a producer to be the Kevin Feige of the X-verse, Sony-verse or the DC-verse

But I still don’t know where Lauren Donner disappeared to, did she just give it all up to Simon?

She is producing Legion and The Gifted. so she is more on the TV side of things.

But i also dunno what impact she has had on any of the movies since she has been there since the start but doesn't really seem like she did much.

He compares his films to the recent heights of superhero cinema: Logan and Thor: ragnorok.

Alot of directors do that. they take inspiration from other movies.

Problem is people take that stuff to literally sometimes when they hear it.
 
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I don't think simon kinberg is trying to be kevin fiege. most of the decisions seem to go straight to fox and they give it the yes or no.

The only reason people think Simon is the Kevin Fiege is because everyone seems to be expecting someone to be the Kevin Feige of the X-verse or the DC-verse



She is producing Legion and The Gifted. so she is more on the TV side of things.

But i also dunno what impact she has had on any of the movies since she has been there since the start



Alot of directors do that. they take inspiration from other movies.

Problem is people take that stuff to literally sometimes.

Yeah i agree a lot of directors take inspiration from other films, without a doubt. It’s just it seems with Simon he picks out a successful film and name drops it several times. He may have been inspired by Logan and I can see the ties between that and dark Phoenix, but with ragnorok? They couldn’t be more different, even with ‘pushing the franchise’ like he claimed. Dark Phoenix is supposed to be taking Logan routes...

Also I may be falling into that trap and comparing roles to the MCU, in regarding the ‘fiege’ role.
 
So when Disney takes over or reboots the x-men movies there aren’t going to be any more complaints righhhhhhtttt???????

Most of us here are fans of the X-Men. Whichever studio takes them on, we want them done properly. If the MCU messes up, there will be criticism too...

Fox has been inconsistent... with some poor world-building and continuity, and has failed to take advantage of all it has got. Especially considering it has had the keys to the entire X-Men world without needing to take any Avengers characters into account.
 
Most of us here are fans of the X-Men. Whichever studio takes them on, we want them done properly. If the MCU messes up, there will be criticism too...

Don't bother. That "you'll eat up anything Marvel does" BS is the oldest way to try to discredit any criticism towards Fox X-Men movies here...
 
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Most of us here are fans of the X-Men. Whichever studio takes them on, we want them done properly. If the MCU messes up, there will be criticism too...

Fox has been inconsistent... with some poor world-building and continuity, and has failed to take advantage of all it has got. Especially considering it has had the keys to the entire X-Men world without needing to take any Avengers characters into account.
Yeah, and this doesn't really need to be explained. Of course people are going to complain when they don't like things regardless of who's behind it. And guess what, the complaints go on hold when films like X2, DoFP, Deadpool and Logan come out.
 

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