Dark Phoenix X-Men: Dark Phoenix News and Speculation Thread - - - - - - Part 15

[carpenter82]

Anyone know where I can get an X-Men T-shirt similar to the Dark Phoenix uniforms with the big yellow X in the chest? I was hoping hot-topic would sell them?

Hopefully you can wear a medium.
Dark Phoenix T-Shirt tee top Medium new w/ tags X-Men promo swag Marve comics | eBay

 

[psylockolussus]

Both X3 and Dofp felt like had big marketing.
curiously the biggest X-Men movies to date (with the biggest cast).

this movie?....... absolutely nothing about this movie feels big or "an event".
no surprised the predictions are that low (even if final numbers get an increase)

I didn't eXactly like some of the marketing pieces for X3 and Dofp but they had plenty of marketing partners. Dark PhoeniX? not so much.

 

[Frankeh]

Does the production actually think this shot should be showcased in ads and trailers? Does anyone here think this looks good? The VF/X of this movie is so muddied. It’s Apocalypse all over again but at least that movie didn’t get the benefit of releasing 20 months after Principal Photography wrapped.

The effects look very 2000s and similar to the ones in Silent Hill. Similar issue with Apocalypse.

 

[Alison Blaire]

New video tribute.

 

[JimThompson]

Not sure the actual box office take matter all that much in this case. It is no secret the X-Men are going to transition over to the MCU.

 

[SumT]

The effects look very 2000s and similar to the ones in Silent Hill. Similar issue with Apocalypse.

I honestly dont see a real difference between Singers style vs Kinbergs style, in terms of action, effects.

so basically its like Kinberg has 0 own style. Logical, since its his first movie, and he likely is just copying what he has seen in all the xmen movies he produced.

 

[EnDz0n3]

Not sure the actual box office take matter all that much in this case. It is no secret the X-Men are going to transition over to the MCU.

Of course it matters. That’s like saying I don’t care how much my old house sells. I’m getting a new one anyways.

 

[Phoenix_Flare]

I slightly disagree. We have barely seen any action scenes scenes and from the small scenes we have seen (and the spoilers I’ve read) we are going to see Cyclops and Storm like we have never seen them before. Even Kurt and Beast are going to kick major ass!!!

 

[Hand Banana]

Not sure the actual box office take matter all that much in this case. It is no secret the X-Men are going to transition over to the MCU.

Causal viewers don’t know that. Most of the people here didn’t know that Chris Nolan announced the Batman reboot a year before the release of The Dark Knight Rises.

 

[kguillou]

That's the most frustrating thing. They werent even the X-Men in Apoc until the last 5 minutes. This movie feels so contrived, so uneventful and so unearned. They're asking us to care about a Jean and an X-Men we know nothing about. They're asking us to get emotionally invested in a character's downfall that we don't care about. They're trying to make this the X-Men's "Greek tragedy" but it doesn't mean anything because it has no merit, they haven't done or laid out any groundwork FOR it to mean something. Not to the underdeveloped X-Men nor to the audience.

The Phoenix Saga should have as much hype and traction as Avengers: Endgame. It's the end all to be all X-Men story and one of the most iconic stories in Marvel history. But here we are, 13 years later and nobody is excited for this movie. It's tracking to underperform

You wont find a bigger Apocalypse apologist than me but I’ve gotta fully agree with this. Even I kind of was like “huh” when they announced Phoenix would be the follow up. It was just too soon. And now, this movie has such a dark cloud over it and people just wanna get it over with instead of it being a big massive emotional grand finale event.

 

[SumT]

Of course it matters. That’s like saying I don’t care how much my old house sells. I’m getting a new one anyways.

its like actual x-men fans dont even care about the brand status.

how much lower do the fans want the "X-Men" name to get??

 

[Hand Banana]

That's the most frustrating thing. They werent even the X-Men in Apoc until the last 5 minutes. This movie feels so contrived, so uneventful and so unearned. They're asking us to care about a Jean and an X-Men we know nothing about. They're asking us to get emotionally invested in a character's downfall that we don't care about. They're trying to make this the X-Men's "Greek tragedy" but it doesn't mean anything because it has no merit, they haven't done or laid out any groundwork FOR it to mean something. Not to the underdeveloped X-Men nor to the audience.

The Phoenix Saga should have as much hype and traction as Avengers: Endgame. It's the end all to be all X-Men story and one of the most iconic stories in Marvel history. But here we are, 13 years later and nobody is excited for this movie. It's tracking to underperform

Plenty of people were emotional invested in the downfall of Harvey Dent despite not appearing in previous films. Tons of other films have done that and well...Greek tragedies have also done that.

Besides most of the focal characters in this movie has been around since First Class(Xavier, Mystique, Beast, and Magneto). So it’s very weird that you are saying the audience can’t care about or know anything about major characters in their fourth film.

No offense, but I think fans want it to be so much like the comic version that they can’t see it working any other way.

 

[The Original Bamfer]

I’m not the biggest fan of Apocalypse, but I felt something with Jean’s arc in it. Of the non-First-Class-X-Men, her story was easily the strongest... despite that not saying much. Scott’s would’ve been more affecting had they actually developed Havok and his relationship with Scott a bit more. Anyway, when I watch Dark Phoenix, it’s going to start with a (somewhat) developed main character. They’re not starting from square one. Jean, at the start of this, bare minimum, is a well-intentioned, mostly kind, self-doubtful, fearful, slightly tortured character with a lot of power, a connection with Scott and Xavier, a hint of a dark side and a ton of potential that led her to be pushed past her limits in the past. I mean, that’s definitely something.

 

[Hand Banana]

You wont find a bigger Apocalypse apologist than me but I’ve gotta fully agree with this. Even I kind of was like “huh” when they announced Phoenix would be the follow up. It was just too soon. And now, this movie has such a dark cloud over it and people just wanna get it over with instead of it being a big massive emotional grand finale event.

I understand not going in being emotional involved in focal characters like Scott and Jean. But saying no one has any emotional investment the other focal characters(Xavier, Magneto, Beast, and Mystique) who we have been with for many films is just a flat out wrong.

 

[carpenter82]

 

[Spider-Aziz]

Disney really pays us after all these years.

 

[Milk Tray Guy]

That keychain is pretty cool

 

[carpenter82]

This is the first fan event I've seen for an IMAX screening. Unless I'm forgetting one.

 

[psylockolussus]

This is the first fan event I've seen for an IMAX screening. Unless I'm forgetting one.

The Last Jedi, The Last Knight, Ghost in the Shell, Fantastic Beasts and Solo had an IMAX fan event.

Its not new at all.

 

[JimThompson]

Causal viewers don’t know that. Most of the people here didn’t know that Chris Nolan announced the Batman reboot a year before the release of The Dark Knight Rises.

And that matters because? There will be more X-Men movies regardless of how this one does.

 

[Hand Banana]

And that matters because? There will be more X-Men movies regardless of how this one does.

I misread your post as something else. My bad.

 

[JimThompson]

I misread your post as something else. My bad.

No worries.

 

[BMM]

Not sure the actual box office take matter all that much in this case. It is no secret the X-Men are going to transition over to the MCU.

That's true to an extent. Unlike previous entries, Dark Phoenix's box office performance has no bearing on the future of the franchise. Dark Phoenix could earn $0 or as much as Days of Future Past, but the outcome will be the same. Reboot.

 

[Hand Banana]

Seem a lot of people who watch the X-films have never watched Apocalypse. Seen several people be surprised that Jean is being played by “Sansa”. Examples.

 

[psylockolussus]

Well thats obvious since Apocalypse didn't gross higher than Days of Future Past.