Dark Phoenix X-Men: Dark Phoenix News and Speculation Thread - - - - - - Part 15

Screenjunkies news has a great discussion on the impact and legacy of the X Men franchise.
 
fan4stic said:
I think they said something to the effect of they thought it would seem like she was saying, though this could've been a joke, "I've been partying for the past week, what's been going on here?" or something like that.
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I mean that's just stupid. Either way she left during the big battle and came back. So either scenario would've required the same amount of on-set filming time for Paquin.

I'm sure the majority of the X-men and the students there JUST wanted her to come back not having taken the cure.
I don't see why it's a slap in the face for someone who doesn't like something about themselves, that can mentally effect them and hurt others physically around them, to give that up.
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I'm sure the parents who want their gay kid to go thru conversion therapy also think they're doing the right thing for their son because he's not-all-there, mentally.

The reports of Ellen Page's experience on the set of X3, of Ratner bullying her, teasing her, telling a female crew member to go make out with Page to turn her gay, kinda explains it all, tbh.
 
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Just got home from seeing it. I enjoyed it it’s better than TLS (& Apocalypse) because the focus is on Jean and the “cosmic force” inside of her. I loved the VFX this time around there were some cool power displays from Storm, Magneto, Cyclops, Nightcrawler and Jean. I liked Red Lotus and Selene they were more helpful than Omegas in TLS honestly. The aliens did nothing for me personally. I wanted more of backstory for them for example they were the creators of the force and it destroyed their world and whoever has the power can bend it to their will. I really wished they went the Shi’ar/Church of Enlightenment from the ultimate comics route and had Chastain get close to Xavier to get close to Jean/Phoenix because when Xavier finally meets Agent Smith its like dull moment between the both of them. Xavier’s face is “so you’re the villain of the movie and not Jean!” The train sequence and the fight at Jean’s house were nice. I hate how the small conflict at Jean’s house is what made mutants enemies again like it would’ve been better if she did something on a grander scale to make the government go hmm maybe mutants really are a menace to society. Honestly the movie became more about avenging Raven than trying to save Jean in the third act. Oh I also liked the confrontation between Hank and Xavier that was very well acted. Poor Nightcrawler is just there I would have expected a scene from him and Storm or Beast about forgiveness for what Jean and Xavier has done since he is religious.
The ending honestly just opens up more questions because the ending of DOFP shows Jean at the mansion so I kind of sorta want to see another film when Jean actually living with the force as Phoenix but I know we are all tired of the Fox films. In conclusion give it a C+ and will get this movie on DVD because I liked the action and I’m curious to see what got cut, but the plot didn’t intervene well with what the aliens wanted to accomplish and Jean’s childhood trauma. This movie definitely needed some type of twist. But farewell FoX men you deserve a well rest.
 
All the negativity surrounding this movie is quite eXhausting now that movie is finallyout. This is me trying to block negative thoughts and trying to find some strength to watch the movie tomorrow with my family....

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Me tomorrow, a hour into the movie
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30 minutes more into the movie
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Oh God.
 
EnDz0n3 said:
I'm sure the parents who want their gay kid to go thru conversion therapy also think they're doing the right thing for their son because he's not-all-there, mentally.

The reports of Ellen Page's experience on the set of X3, of Ratner bullying her, teasing her, telling a female crew member to go make out with Page to turn her gay, kinda explains it all, tbh.
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Rogue's powers physically hurt other people and personally effect her as a person when she does it, she's said that when she touches someone she can feel them inside her head. Rogue is choosing to have a life that she wants.
 
How selfish of her. Good thing that's not the Rogue from the comics. Good thing the Rogue we know and love would not do that.
 
Saw the movie tonight. Very bad. Sophie's acting was not the best. She really didn't do much destruction as The Phoenix. The pacing was also terrible. Didn't get good until the end. The train sequence was the best part of the movie. Great display of power from Storm, Nightcrawler and Cyclops. The movie was pretty much the same ol' stuff we've seen in the past. Not progressive at all. Glad this is the last X-film from Fox
 
javon said:
Saw the movie tonight. Very bad. Sophie's acting was not the best. She really didn't do much destruction as The Phoenix. The pacing was also terrible. Didn't get good until the end. The train sequence was the best part of the movie. Great display of power from Storm, Nightcrawler and Cyclops. The movie was pretty much the same ol' stuff we've seen in the past. Not progressive at all. Glad this is the last X-film from Fox
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I didn't care for it either. I liked the space shuttle mission and some of the train sequence but little else. It was just... not very good. It's gotten to the point that I think this would have been the end, regardless of the Disney acquisition, because I don't know where the franchise could go from here.
 


I don't care who you are, this is the hypest beat in the franchise. THIS is the X-theme I've been waiting on. And the scenes it's used in, are everything I've been waiting for. Like, I actually got choked up, and seriously emotional.

Finally Fox gives us their new fully realized version of X-Men. This whoops the heck out of Last Stand, seriously. I didn't totally hate Apocalypse, but I think Dark Phoenix is a more coherent movie with an actual meaning behind it and themes I didn't even pick up on until my girlfriend pointed them out to me. It's dark, different, WEIRD, brisk, awkward, clunky and unlike any other X-Men movie. It's full blown Fox. As it should be for the fitting, final film. It comes full circle back to X1 so nicely IMHO.

I'm so happy this exists and was released for people who appreciate oddity genre films, because we will never get another X-Men film like this again.
 
TWayneP said:


I don't care who you are, this is the hypest beat in the franchise. THIS is the X-theme I've been waiting on. And the scenes it's used in, are everything I've been waiting for. Like, I actually got choked up, and seriously emotional.

Finally Fox gives us their new fully realized version of X-Men. This whoops the heck out of Last Stand, seriously. I didn't totally hate Apocalypse, but I think Dark Phoenix is a more coherent movie with an actual meaning behind it and themes I didn't even pick up on until my girlfriend pointed them out to me. It's dark, different, WEIRD, brisk, awkward, clunky and unlike any other X-Men movie. It's full blown Fox. As it should be for the fitting, final film. It comes full circle back to X1 so nicely IMHO.

I'm so happy this exists and was released for people who appreciate oddity genre films, because we will never get another X-Men film like this again.
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Glad you liked the film. It certainly is weird.
 
TWayneP said:
I'm so happy this exists and was released for people who appreciate oddity genre films, because we will never get another X-Men film like this again.
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You're 100% right. We really will never get another X-Men film like this again.

Now given the reactions this movie has gotten from a lot of people it seems many would say that's a good thing. We will never get an X-Men film helmed by a first time director again!
 
The film made $13 million on its first day in China (including previews).

Is that good or bad for china?
 
That's down $5Mil from Apocalypse ($18Mil). It made $59Mil for the opening weekend.

Dark Phoenix is projected to make $50Mil in China and that's from a 4-day long weekend. It was a coup for the studio securing this weekend (Dragon Boat Festival).
 
It still makes me laugh how the last Resident Evil film made $30million in it's opening day in China.
 
MeralysMystica said:
Strangely you don't look at RT score when a you like a movie/actress :D
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Mind you, Resident Evil The Final Chapter (or is it) has a 37% rt rating vs. Dark PhoeniX's 22%. The former also served as a better culmination of a 10+ year old franchise and it didn't take itself too seriously and does its purpose, a mindless popcorn flick which the audience have come to eXpect over the years. While something like the X-Men shouldn't be compared to a 2nd tier film franchise, especially when cb movies / Marvel movies are generally better reviewed and have higher standards compare to videogame films like Resident Evil, and that the X-Men franchise was more than a mindless popcorn flick. Infact, a lot of the reviews are calling the film, boring and bland. Its not even cheesey ott kind of mess. But a 2 hour slug.
 
psylockolussus said:
Mind you, Resident Evil The Final Chapter (or is it) has a 37% rt rating vs. Dark PhoeniX's 22%. The former also served as a better culmination of a 10+ year old franchise and it didn't take itself too seriously and does its purpose, a mindless popcorn flick which the audience have come to eXpect over the years. While something like the X-Men shouldn't be compared to a 2nd tier film franchise, especially when cb movies / Marvel movies are generally better reviewed and have higher standards compare to videogame films like Resident Evil, and that the X-Men franchise was more than a mindless popcorn flick. Infact, a lot of the reviews are calling the film, boring and bland. Its not even cheesey ott kind of mess. But a 2 hour slug.
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A long log post to said only that you can accept RT score only when you want.
There is no need of the other words.
Take the joke ;)
 
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