88th Annual Academy Awards - Part 2

[SuperT]

Did you enjoy the near constant black/white jokes and references to diversity throughout the show? Or did you think at was a little much when all was said and done?

I thought it got to be a bit much at some points and some of the jokes just completely fell flat. WTF was that Stacy Dash cameo? Get her off of this planet. Some were just downright awful - the bit with bringing out the Asian kids and the slave labor jobs was abhorrent. I thought all the skits - especially the Joy, Danish Girl, The Martian and Revenant ones were hilarious as well as the one with Angela Bassett.

I did take issue with him ragging on Jada Pinkett Smith though if she's not worthy of attending the Oscars?! I can think of a lot other non-minorities that I wouldn't deem worthy to attend the Oscars well before I'd even get to Pinkett-Smith.

 

[Pink Ranger]

My God. And to think the Oscars used to be a dinner party. It has as much importance as the bus driver's and meatpacking industry awards.

Holy ****, the Meaties have become so political. DePaulo's Fine Sausages are really just doing awards-baity stuff now, with just focussing on artisanal wild game products and maybe some of that free range chicken&apple that's popular in New England. What pretentious BS; they really need to be focussing on meats that regular Americans eat every day.

 

[Rowsdower!]

The Stacey Dash thing was Chris Rock making a joke about the Academy's efforts to improve its diversity. As in, "Hey, we hired a person of color who happens to be a delusional idiot that constantly denounces other people of color! We're making progress!" I think it just flew over people's heads because they were so disgusted at seeing her at all.

All that aside though, I feel like he went overboard with the race jokes. The monologue was good, but they could have moved on after that (or at least written funnier material). Also problematic was how Rock failed to acknowledge that the Academy's diversity problem isn't only that African Americans weren't nominated; it's that ONLY white people were nominated. What about Asians, Latinos, etc.? Benecio Del Toro certainly got snubbed for Sicario, but I guess that was so we could pave the way for the most undeserved Oscar winner of the year (Rylance).

 

[Drizzle]

Just curious, when did everyone start hating Iñárritu so much? I don't remember this many people despising him last year.

Right about here:

 

[Rowsdower!]

Right about here:

Well yeah, that is a d**k move on his part.

 

[Kane52630]

For...not clapping? eh. Pretty weak for a reason to hate him.

 

[Iron_Stark]

Right about here:

What are we looking at? I see the majority of people not clapping, a couple of women behind him not even paying attention, and 2 people clapping very slowly, like they're at the tail end of the clap. That's what it takes to hate someone these days? Not clapping?

Where's the gif where Iñárritu stood up to clap when Spotlight won.

 

[Supernova]

I think it is the look of disgust

 

[Iron_Stark]

Tom Hardy has the same look (or whoever that guy is two rows in front of Iñárritu)

 

[Kane52630]

 

[Supernova]

Im also getting tired of directors and actors saying because something took ex amounts years to make or the conditions were tough so they deserve an award

 

[SuperT]

Im also getting tired of directors and actors saying because something took ex amounts years to make or the conditions were tough so they deserve an award

Ugh yes - it was this way with all the praise Boyhood got that year. It took you 12 years to make a mediocre film?

 

[Schlosser85]

Tom Hardy has the same look (or whoever that guy is two rows in front of Iñárritu)

That's not Tom Hardy.

 

[Rowsdower!]

Sam Smith said he "hated every minute" of his performance last night.

Glad we can agree on something.

 

[terry78]

I think the issue is that when people think of diversity they think in terms of black or white. Not to discount asians and latinos but sometimes they get lumped into the black or white category depending on how they act.

 

[chamber-music]

There is favoritism toward white conventionally attractive leading men and women, and it is substantially more difficult for people of color to break into the industry, and far fewer substantial roles for them, but that's not just Hollywood's doing. It's supply and demand. Audiences are partially responsible for this too.

I think it is about opportunities and equality. Movie making may be a commercial business but Hollywood is institutionally set up to block minority actors from being successful.

There are a few major myths that the Hollywood industry likes to spread to legitimize their prejudice hiring and filmmaking choices.

There is the old excuse that minority lead films don't do well overseas yet when people like Ice Cube challenged a studio exec about it they admitted they don't put money and resources into promoting the films overseas because they already assume it will fail. They essentially fulfill their own prophesies.

Another excuse that gets brought up frequently is that minorities actors are not big names yet every year we see at least half a dozen major studio movies starring little known white guys who don't have a following, buzz, acting talent or ability to draw a dime as a lead actor.

Many minority actors barely get a chance to play anything other than stereotypes. Even with black male actors it feels like Hollywood has a one in and one out policy. Eddie Murphy ain't popular any more we will let Kevin Hart take his spot. Denzel is getting old so we will start giving Idris Elba the chance as a leading man despite the fact they made him wait until he was 43.

I certainly think audiences have some power but they don't have a lot of options sometimes. I know plenty of black people really aren't that into all these slavery, segregation or Tyler Perry movies but they feel obliged to see them just to support black talent that won't get the spotlight in other major studio movie roles.

 

[SoNicRaDiATioN]

Ugh yes - it was this way with all the praise Boyhood got that year. It took you 12 years to make a mediocre film?

That's your opinion.

I think a lot of people dislike Iñárritu because of his self-serious/pretentious attitude, like when he stated that his film "deserves to be watched in a temple". I admire people who take their work seriously (they bloody well should!), just not ones who like to create or play off a mythology that's been fashioned for them in the press, ie the serious artist willing to go to the ends of the earth and die for their craft....

Then we see them as a cliché at awards shows as they sit in a gaudy auditorium dressed to the nines in a monkey suit and fully expecting to be honored for their sacrifice!

 

[JaD]

What are we looking at? I see the majority of people not clapping, a couple of women behind him not even paying attention, and 2 people clapping very slowly, like they're at the tail end of the clap. That's what it takes to hate someone these days? Not clapping?

Where's the gif where Iñárritu stood up to clap when Spotlight won.

Yeah I was thinking the same thing, if you watch the full clip he turns to his lady at the very end smiling about to say something, maybe a joke about her jacket and how it's silly or awesome. Anyone can come up with their conclusions ha.

Why would he be so disgusted about losing Best Costume Design, anyways? Did he lose a bet or something?

Edit: Apparently he started clapping immediately after the clip that was aired when she made it to the stage, it sounds more like she was taking a while to get up there and a handful of people stopped clapping for a bit.

 

[Guts]

Tom Hardy has the same look (or whoever that guy is two rows in front of Iñárritu)

That's not Tom Hardy.

Tom Hardy was in a different row.

 

[Tacit Ronin]

I didn't say that. But it's not uncommon for actors who have normally played serious roles (and good ones at that) to get flack for starring in a comedy (especially a really crappy comedy).

It just seems like people are hating on Leo for only playing serious roles. Like I said, everyone has their niche. That's why I asked why people were saying that he's an Oscar chaser. What is the reasoning behind it? I assumed it was because of the seriousness of the roles he chooses. Maybe that's not it.

His last role before this one was comedic; and he was nothing but praised for it.

And people's beef is with the fact that they don't think it's all that good a performance. Not because it was serious.

 

[Guts]

 

[Drizzle]

I was wondering why Tobey was there when he didn't present anything but then I remembered he's BFFs with Leo.


Something else I also remembered about Chris Rock's dig at Jada Pinkett-Smith. They co-starred in the Madagascar movies.

 

[Donner]

His last role before this one was comedic; and he was nothing but praised for it.

And people's beef is with the fact that they don't think it's all that good a performance. Not because it was serious.

Well it wouldn't be the first time that someone won an Oscar for something people felt wasn't good enough.

I haven't seen The Revenant so I can't comment on its quality, but since everyone has different tastes in movies, it's hard to make the judgement call on who is more deserving for an award.

 

[Sawyer]

"This is some Hollywood bulls***!" - says the brother of the guy with two long-running Hollywood franchises, in regards to him losing an award to a renowned three-time Tony winner

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

Stacy Dash is delusional if she thinks those at the Oscars were laughing with her and not at her.

Why would she think sarcastically saying "Happy Black History" month would help her agenda? She looked pretty stupid.