BTW, anyone remember this deleted scene of Beast quoting Shakespeare in The Last Stand?
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... again it's not the cast size that makes the writing suck, it's the time spent and the script and way they are used. The X-men movies have imo been all about the script and very little about the cast.. and thus have been handled pretty poorly. The writers outline a script with the key players.. then shove everyone else into a void they need to fill to get the key players from point A to B. You don't have to do that... only choose cameos and characters that fit, not ones that are forced.
it's quite obvious they went "well we want to include ______ so lets force him in there even though it makes no sense what so ever"
I never like Cudmore as Colossus. He seemed like too much of a derp for me. I also hate how they did him in X3. Making him a guy in a rubber suit was a no-go for me. They couldn't ever leave the camera on him long enough to make an impact.
Yeah, they didn't even bother to address the fact that mystique is Rogue's foster mother in X1.
Mystique is really a bad mother, she abandon her baby son, throwing him into the river, pretending to adopt Rogue when she is actually making use of Rogue all along to carry out her crimes.
How did Raven who was so good and decent in First Class become so bad and evil ....??
Dear God...what the hell was that? That's actually the first time I've seen that. This scene (for me) could possibly take the award for worse scene in any of the X-men films. Yes worse than Toad struck by lightning and Hoult in terrible Beast-muppet make-up reveal in the hangar.
X-Maniac proved my point very well and you can explain yourself all the time. But having more than 20 characters is not good for a movie. Even if the movie has a good writer and director, having too many characters will have a bad effect on the movie. Maybe if this is a TV series, it would work but no, this is a movie.
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Seriously! I'll never understand why this can't be grasped.Again.... Harry potter did it just fine. Problem is fanboys want everyone front and center and integral and developed and that's not going to happen. Some are main characters some will be supporting. And others tirtiary like every movie
Again.... Harry potter did it just fine. Problem is fanboys want everyone front and center and integral and developed and that's not going to happen. Some are main characters some will be supporting. And others tirtiary like every movie
Also why I hated Halle Berry's *****ing about X2.
STORM SAVES THE WORLD IN THE END. WITHOUT STORM THEY WOULD HAVE ALL DIED.
I wish she understood that...
BTW, anyone remember this deleted scene of Beast quoting Shakespeare in The Last Stand?
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****ing hilarious. Look how Bobby's freaked out like "WTF?" at 0:47 and Storm's not even facing Beast's direction... like she's silently laughing at him as she stares at her other teammates in disbelief. It didn't even seem like his speech made an impact on Bobby or the other kids. It's like Bobby just stared at Beast when he was done like, "Yeeeeah... Anyways, we're in."
I want Beast and have some truly intellectual scenes in DoFP. I know Singer can deliver that without making it seem ridiculous like Ratner did.
Again.... Harry potter did it just fine. Problem is fanboys want everyone front and center and integral and developed and that's not going to happen. Some are main characters some will be supporting. And others tirtiary like every movie
Its scary how clueless the studio were on those three characters on why people want to see them. Gambit was the least destroyed but they still didnt know what to do with him. And after watching that Deadpool concept art that just popped up its literally like the studio just said make him look like anything but the comic. There were like 85 designs haha. And they all sucked.
I know! I saw that concept art. Deadpool it was not! Why go to all that trouble when the comic book provides the design. For a Weapon XI character, it was fine, for Deadpool it wasn't. Terrible!
I never once said i wanted to see every character actually read my posts.... I said you can include as many as you want as long as the story makes sense and is written well and balanced.... Harry potter handled a massive cast well. X2 handled a massive cast well..... Dkr handled a massive cast well.... X3 DID NOT.Harry Potter did it just fine? If it wasn't for the story of the books, I would have probably complained on how the past the Dark Arts professor were given so much story in the 1st movie but after the 2nd/3rd movie, their role got smaller and smaller.
And I'm not being a fanboy, I just want to see a good movie. You are the one who is being a fan boy who wants every character in the X-Men movie universe to comeback and appear in this movie.
It all depends how it's done though.
Most times when there have been cameos in the X-Men films, there has been complaints from fans, or it has caused continuity issues further down the line (like having a human Beast in X2, or Emma in X-Men Origins: Wolverine, or a glimpse of Storm/Cyclops in the First Class Cerebro).
People were okay with the Colossus cameo in X2 because it seemed like an introduction to a bigger role in the next film. But even then, there were a lot of people wanting more from Colossus in X2 itself. And a lot of fans weren't happy that Deathstryke was just a henchwoman with no real backstory or characterisation.
So it's a fine line to tread.
Part of the problem is that different writers and directors have made the X-films, so there is no 'grand plan' of which characters will be introduced and when.
Writers and directors also have to be aware of which characters are fan favourites - like Deadpool, Gambit, Psylocke, etc. It's no use messing up their appearances on screen and any cameos should only serve as foundation for a larger role in another movie.
Agrees. Its all on how its handled. But they do have more leway if they hold some cameos and small parts for the "future" because if this film pulls a star trek..... Theyes are no longer grounded to that future and can be free to do what they want with any of those characters.
Luckily beast was a very minor thing... But xo Emma was forced for the sake of forcing.... And you can't do that
so clearly Singer has part of his fault forgeting those characters on XOW and creating more continuity mess.
I like his work, but some of his ideas created more trouble for this complex franchise
I dont like that at all.
so clearly Singer has part of his fault forgeting those characters on XOW and creating more continuity mess.
I like his work, but some of his ideas created more trouble for this complex franchise
I dont like that at all.
Seriously! I'll never understand why this can't be grasped.
I understand the complaints when there is one character who is pretty much there for no reason and has no purpose... like a few characters in X3. But in a movie like X2, NO ONE has a thankless role. Everyone serves a specific purpose and every character's actions push the story forward. This is why it will always be my favorite X-film, and one of my favorite films in general. The fact that every character contributes to the overarching plot in a unique and smooth may amazes me every time.
Also why I hated Halle Berry's *****ing about X2.
STORM SAVES THE WORLD IN THE END. WITHOUT STORM THEY WOULD HAVE ALL DIED.
I wish she understood that...