Agent Carter Agent Carter General Discussion Thread

[Loki882]

Or they're just taking the name and then essentially building a completely new character around it. You know, like they've already done with Pierce, Garrett, Koenig, Sitwell, etc.

 

[BullMcGiveny]

Or they're just taking the name and then essentially building a completely new character around it. You know, like they've already done with Pierce, Garrett, Koenig, Sitwell, etc.

The movies tend to use comic book character names as much as possible even if the personalities don't match, but AoS tends to invent characters, name and all. I'll give you the Koenigs, but Garret evoked the veteran agent cyborg aspect, at least.

On Agent Carter, they've invented Thompson, Sousa and the yet-to-be-cast Hutchins. That Dooly is named for a comic character is cause for some pause. I'm guessing he's probably not a depraved sicko, but you never know.

 

[Mike Murdock]

I just read D.G. Chichester's Daredevil story Fall from Grace. If there's one thing Chichester likes to do, it's write SHIELD characters. I thought his voice for John Garrett was pretty similar to how he was in the show. So, even with the twist of him being a Hydra agent, I thought they got him pretty much right.

Koenig, to me, is more of a WWII character. Having Dooley in WWII is either compounding the problem or making up for it - your pick. Now, if right before Agent Carter ends, Patton Oswald shows up as Eric Koenig, that would make for an awesome cross-series plot twist.

 

[Dark Raven]

While Dooley's character could be completely changed, in his case, what would be the point? Peggy is in a misogynistic society, and Dooley in the comics is one of the most misogynistic characters around. It seems like change for the sake of change when he could have perfectly served that function, or if Marvel wanted someone who is more fair minded, they could've used a different character and put him in WWII like Clay Quartermain or anyone else. Dooley is such an unusual pick otherwise.

It would be like having Dum Dum in WWII but changing everything about him and having someone else with the bowler hat and handle bar moustache. If you're going to do that, why not just give it to Dugan?

 

[BETArayBill]

If lasts nights Aos is any indication I think we're in for a treat with this series.

 

[BullMcGiveny]

While Dooley's character could be completely changed, in his case, what would be the point? Peggy is in a misogynistic society, and Dooley in the comics is one of the most misogynistic characters around. It seems like change for the sake of change when he could have perfectly served that function, or if Marvel wanted someone who is more fair minded, they could've used a different character and put him in WWII like Clay Quartermain or anyone else. Dooley is such an unusual pick otherwise.

It would be like having Dum Dum in WWII but changing everything about him and having someone else with the bowler hat and handle bar moustache. If you're going to do that, why not just give it to Dugan?

Yep.

If they wanted a reasonable authority figure as Peggy's boss, I would have liked to see Happy Sam Sawyer. He was Fury's WWII CO and involved in SHIELD, I think.

Actually, given how Sawyer was crippled during the war, he could have been Sousa.

 

[BullMcGiveny]

I just read D.G. Chichester's Daredevil story Fall from Grace. If there's one thing Chichester likes to do, it's write SHIELD characters. I thought his voice for John Garrett was pretty similar to how he was in the show. So, even with the twist of him being a Hydra agent, I thought they got him pretty much right.

Koenig, to me, is more of a WWII character. Having Dooley in WWII is either compounding the problem or making up for it - your pick. Now, if right before Agent Carter ends, Patton Oswald shows up as Eric Koenig, that would make for an awesome cross-series plot twist.

Patton Oswalt with a German accent? Hmm.

 

[Vartha]

Patton Oswalt with a German accent? Hmm.

....for some reason I think of Shultz from Hogan's Heroes when I think of Patton with a German accent lol

 

[Dr. Evil]

....for some reason I think of Shultz from Hogan's Heroes when I think of Patton with a German accent lol

 

[HunBoy]

Hayley Atwell on Twitter:

First day on set! What a great team and wonderful direction from @louisde2

 

[Six]

Nice, looking forward to seeing some stills.

 

[HunBoy]

Dominic Cooper Returns as Howard Stark in Marvel's Agent Carter

http://marvel.com/news/tv/23371/dominic_cooper_returns_as_howard_stark_in_marvels_agent_carter

 

[TalismanRing]

Woooo!!!

Cooper is a great Howard. "Fondue is just cheese and bread my friend". He's very believable as Tony's father with the only problem is it's a bit difficult and sad to see him growing into John Slattery Howard.

I'm so glad some of the excellent supporting cast from TFA get to live on in the series. Losing most all of them was the big negative in having just one Cap film set in WWII.

 

[Dark Raven]

Cooper Howard turning into Slattery Howard is like Connery Bond turning into David Niven Bond when he's older.

 

[Gr0oT]

So the timeline for this show is still confirmed as before the one-shot, so does that mean the AoS season 2 prologue is set after that one-shot and season one of Agent Carter?

 

[Silvermoon]

So the timeline for this show is still confirmed as before the one-shot, so does that mean the AoS season 2 prologue is set after that one-shot and season one of Agent Carter?

The AoS Season 2 prologue takes place in 1945. The one-shot takes place in 1946 (1 year after Cap goes down in the Valkyrie). Edit: That means that the AOS prologue also takes place before the Agent Carter series as (I forgot this before) it has been stated that AC will take place also in 1946

 

[Moridin]

So the timeline for this show is still confirmed as before the one-shot, so does that mean the AoS season 2 prologue is set after that one-shot and season one of Agent Carter?

I don't think the One-Shot will necessarily be cannon. I think it'll essentially just be the "short story" that the full series is based on & fleshes out.

The AoS prologue is set in 1945, AC is set in 1946. Both are before the formation of SHIELD.

 

[CaptainWagner]

-There is supposedly a Hogan's Heroes movie in the works. Maybe Mr. Oswalt should give them a call t:

-And I agree it would be rather pointless to use a character like Dooly whose characteristics fit the purpose of the show but then not use said characteristics.

 

[Vartha]

The AoS Season 2 prologue takes place in 1945. The one-shot takes place in 1946 (1 year after Cap goes down in the Valkyrie). Edit: That means that the AOS prologue also takes place before the Agent Carter series as (I forgot this before) it has been stated that AC will take place also in 1946

I don't think the One-Shot will necessarily be cannon. I think it'll essentially just be the "short story" that the full series is based on & fleshes out.

The AoS prologue is set in 1945, AC is set in 1946. Both are before the formation of SHIELD.

AND the SSR was still around in 1953 because the Simthsonian film Peggy was is was dated 1953 and had SSR next to her name in Winter Soldier

 

[chronos]

I can't imagine why the One-Shot wouldn't be cannon? There hasn't been a single thing to indicate that it wouldn't be. And as for the fact that Carter is identified as SSR in the Winter Soldier footage, it's clear that even by the time of IM1 through Thor, that SHIELD wasn't exactly a overtly public organization, as characters like Tony, Pepper and Jane Foster seem to have never heard of them. Though obviously they've been around for decades, they seem to be kind of flying under the general public's radar, so it would make sense that in1953 they identify Peggy as SSR, which she would have been much better known for, especially in the context of that footage in reagards to her connection to Cap.

I imagine the timeline is this Cap1>AOS flasback>AgentCarter one-shot> Agent Carter series>Winter Soldier interview footage. Nothing here contradicts another.

 

[Silvermoon]

I imagine the timeline is this Cap1>AOS flasback>AgentCarter one-shot> Agent Carter series>Winter Soldier interview footage. Nothing here contradicts another.

Though they've acknowledged it could change, it's been said that the series (at least this first season of it) will take place *before* the one-shot. Other than that, agree with your timeline

 

[fixxxer]

@chronos...

The Agent Carter one-shot might very well turn out to be cannon, and as you rightly said, there's nothing to contradict that thus far. However, I believe the Agent Carter series (at least season 1) would come before the one-shot.

I remember an interview with the writers (or possibly show-runners) where they said that Peggy wouldn't be starting up SHIELD with Howard Stark and co. just yet, but would still be in the process of working at SSR and facing some of the overwrought bureaucracy and misogyny that were part and parcel of organizations of the era.

Then again, I could be wrong. Maybe the one-shot did occur before the series, and Peggy is helping fashion SHIELD in secret while the public face of the organization is still the SSR.

In any case, I'm intrigued to see how this plays out.

 

[BullMcGiveny]

They'd said that the first season will take place "during" the one-shot.

Which is good since the one-shot takes place over less than 24 hours.

 

[Uskok]

AND the SSR was still around in 1953 because the Simthsonian film Peggy was is was dated 1953 and had SSR next to her name in Winter Soldier

When S.H.I.E.L.D. was formed, the SSR became its science division. Therefore, in 1953 the SSR was a branch of S.H.I.E.L.D.

 

[kedrell]

A key actor from Boardwalk Empire is going from the 1920s to the 1940s.

Actor Shea Whigham has been cast as the male lead in Marvel’s Agent Carter, EW confirmed. Whigham will play the “tough but fair-minded Strategic Scientific Reserve Chief Roger Dooley, the man who will oversee agents Carter (Hayley Atwell), Thompson (Chad Michael Murray) and Sousa (Enver Gjokaj),” Deadline first reported. In other words, Dooley is sort of the Agent Coulson of the SSR in this 1946-set series.

Whigham plays Nucky’s brother on Boardwalk, which is currently airing its final season. ABC’s Captain America spin-off series is expected to air in the Marvel’s Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. slot between the show’s fall and spring runs (so you could say it’s ABC’s Tuesday night winter soldier).

http://insidetv.ew.com/2014/09/22/shea-whigham-agent-carter/

Wait?! Chief.....Whigham?