Supergirl All About The Ratings!!!!!! - Part 1

[Kelly]

It is always how it stands compared to other CW shows, that is how they look at ratings. Not across the board with other networks, but how it performs on the network it belongs to.....and as you say, yes they are all tanking. Several reasons.... 1. you have damn music reality guzzlers almost every night of the week now....lol 2. DST kills all the way around. 3. and the promotion for the show sucks beyond measure. We get sneak peeks online about 2 hours before the show comes on, whereas we use to get upwards of 4 sneak peeks starting the Wednesday or Thursday the week before. It's just sad for all the shows, not just Supergirl.

 

[Primal Slayer]

Where the hell did all the viewers go!?!?! 1.9 to 1.3!!?!?!?! I don't understand.

 

[famicommander]

All the comic shows are down.

Current season DC/Marvel comic book TV rankings, by average rating

Lucifer: 0.84 (-19% vs last year)
The Flash: 0.83 (-22% vs last year)
Gotham: 0.79 (-27% vs last year)
Agents of SHIELD: 0.55 (-25% vs last year)
Supergirl: 0.54 (-27% vs last year)
Legends of Tomorrow: 0.48 (-24% vs last year)
Arrow: 0.45 (-28% vs last year)
iZombie: 0.25 (-19% vs last year)
Legion: 0.22 (-50% vs last year)

Legion is particularly bad considering they've only aired 3 episodes, and their season order expanded from 8 episodes last year to 10 this year. There's a long way yet for them to drop.

If you'll notice, percentage-wise, the two shows that have held up the best (or least bad) are more supernatural police dramas than superhero shows: iZombie and Lucifer. They have more of a procedural element than the others as well, so you feel like you can catch an episode here or there without always having to see everything in order.

We're reaching the saturation point for these shows. It's hard for me to follow them and I don't even watch Gotham or SHIELD

New shows:
The Gifted: 1.01
Inhumans: 0.61
Black Lightning: 0.56
Kryton: 0.30

The Gifted really did well, as did Black Lightning, all things considered.

 

[ComicBookNerd]

Where the hell did all the viewers go!?!?! 1.9 to 1.3!!?!?!?! I don't understand.

Biggest blame goes to TheCW app which provides a free, high definition, virus free streaming service.

Also, a 9 week hiatus after the series started getting good again made things out of sight out of mind, so it’s understandable why so many viewers stopped watching the live broadcasts on tv.

 

[Primal Slayer]

Ugh...last week the show pulled in 1.9, it's kind of hard to blame the CWApp when the show has actually been doing pretty decent this season.

 

[flickchick85]

Yeah this is quite shocking. I actually expected it get a slight bump this week over last week. Never would've expected such a dramatic drop instead. Last week's episode was the definition of filler, a strange choice to come back from a long hiatus on (not that it was planned), so maybe that failed to get people back into it?

 

[NotNickFury]

If I may, and not that this matters most plus it depends on what the network does, there's always the chance that this, like every other show, could get a bump with DVR and the +3 ratings or however it goes. That and, as many have said, there's simply too much on TV right now. That's not an indictment on Supergirl specifically, but there's a lot and so many ways to watch. Not everything can be a Roseanne and pull in 18 million viewers a night, but that's also the product of name recognition.

Even other comic based shows like The Walking Dead which might still pull in ratings in the 6.0 range or so, which many shows would want, they aren't what they used to be. At the very least, Supergirl has already been renewed. Whether it or any other DCCW show reaches ratings it had what they had from the onset, I don't know. Like how FX values quality over sheer numbers, I would wager that even with numbers like this for Supergirl or any of the DCCW shows, the CW is still firmly behind it.

But I'm saying that completely off the cuff and not as a numbers or ratings expert.

 

[flickchick85]

Oh yeah, it's still in the upper echelon of the network's ratings, so it's not remotely in danger. It's just...before the hiatus, it was pulling .6's and getting over 2 million viewers, so this hiatus clearly did it no favors. At least in the short run. Its numbers might improve once all its competition shows have their finales and this still has several eps to go, but nothing's guaranteed at this point, imo.

 

[vantheman77]

Last night's Arrow got less than a million viewers. I think this marks the first time a DCU show got less than a million viewers.

 

[Kelly]

Yeah.....EVERYONE is down. Even the ever stable "Supernatural" is down this week in ratings....

 

[vantheman77]

The NFL/ Avengers trailer combination is a killer combination.

 

[vantheman77]

Ratings for last night's Supergirl was 0.5 and 1.5 million viewers.

 

[Kelly]

Yep, edging back up to its average....it will probably stay around that for the duration of the season.

 

[vantheman77]

Ratings for last night's Supergirl episode Trinity were 0.4 and 1.6 million viewers.

 

[famicommander]

Adjusted up to a 0.5 and dragged iZombie back up to 0.3 along with it.

Hopefully all the Arrowverse shows get their own, dedicated timeslots next year and run concurrently. It would be interesting to see how Black Lightning, Supergirl, and Legends would all stack up without the screwball scheduling.

 

[vantheman77]

Supergirl may do well, but it's both Legends and Black Lightning that are going to be tested with dedicated timeslots.

 

[famicommander]

Legends has been there before, and it did well. But it's been moved around more than any DC show by far, and that can only erode an audience.

Black Lightning premiered during a lower rated time of the year, had several repeat episodes as lead ins, and aired some episodes while most of the rest of the shows on the schedule were off. Who can say what Black Lightning would have premiered to in the fall behind Flash. Whether it's leading off a night or staying behind Flash, I don't think Black Lighting will have any issues in the fall.

 

[Kelly]

Adjusted up to a 0.5 and dragged iZombie back up to 0.3 along with it.

Hopefully all the Arrowverse shows get their own, dedicated timeslots next year and run concurrently. It would be interesting to see how Black Lightning, Supergirl, and Legends would all stack up without the screwball scheduling.

Well out of those 3 BL had the best, in its beginnings it did quite well with a Flash lead in, but that didn't last very long and it dipped pretty quick.

People are worried about iZombie getting renewed, I still see no problem, but many are crying "the sky is falling" since it did not get a renewal announcement with "The 100".

Doesn't "iZombie" have the same Netflix deal in the UK as "Dynasty"?

 

[Brierrose]

Looks like Lucifer was cancelled. Assuming Supergirl stays in the same timeslot that’s good news for the Girl of Steel. Lucifer was IMO the scripted show that provided the most direct competition on Monday nights.

 

[flickchick85]

As long as nothing equally genre-y takes its place.

 

[NotNickFury]

Wait, your takeaway from Lucifer's cancellation is not that it's gone, but how this is a good thing for Supergirl?

Okay, not gonna get into that one, but as was said, it also depends what would go in its place. Not to mention that those viewers may go somewhere else altogether.

 

[flickchick85]

This is the Supergirl ratings thread, NotNick - of course the ratings/cancellations are being discussed in terms of how they affect Supergirl, lol. If you check the Gotham board, you'll see they're discussing it in terms of what it means for Gotham's renewal chances. If you'd like to see people lamenting Lucifer's loss, I'd recommend a Lucifer thread.

 

[Brierrose]

As long as nothing equally genre-y takes its place.

Of course another network could put something genre-y against Supergirl. IMO unless it has a new show Lucifer’s cancellation does take Fox out of the mix. I doubt Fox will move Gothom back in direct competition with Supergirl as many believed Fox wisely thought Lucifer would do better. Monday night is tough because of all the non scripted shows that people watch live.

 

[flickchick85]

Of course another network could put something genre-y against Supergirl. IMO unless it has a new show Lucifer’s cancellation does take Fox out of the mix. I doubt Fox will move Gothom back in direct competition with Supergirl as many believed Fox wisely thought Lucifer would do better. Monday night is tough because of all the non scripted shows that people watch live.

Yep. I'm not ruling out Gotham moving back there, though. Especially if they expect it to be its last season.

 

[famicommander]

I think Gotham's fate hinges upon whether or not Fox can find someone to replace the departing actor on Lethal Weapon. If they can, Gotham will get cancelled and Lethal Weapon will be renewed. If not, the reverse.

If it does get renewed, I don't think they're going to move it back to Monday nights. It's already weak as it is. Going back up against TNF and another DC show would erode it down to embarrassing numbers.