All Things Superman: An Open Discussion - - Part 11

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I don't know if anyone has brought this up already when do you guys think we will get a full trailer?

I'm thinking we won't get one until the "Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey" in December.
 
TBH, considering who the director is, we could get a teaser like this:

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which is pretty good if you ask me.
 
Superman Returns is, for me, such a difficult film to review or criticize. There are many good things, but there's also a good amount of regular things. Is not a bad movie by any means, but I just can't help but feeling a little empty after watching it.
I don't know if making it a sequel of sorts to the Donner's films is a great idea, or a terrible one. From that alone, I can't really judge the movie.
I want to see it again. Tomorrow I'm gonna watch Superman: The Movie. I haven't seen that one in a long time.

In a number of ways, SR suffers by being an amalgam of a reboot, a “vague sequel” and a remake. So even when Singer made an obvious improvement to something from STM, he got blame (with some justification) for copying - rather than credit for fixing. Take Lex’s “real estate” scheme, for instance.

In STM, it was ridiculous. After setting off a couple of nukes and destroying half of California, we were supposed to believe that a wanted criminal would be sitting pretty as the legal owner of the other half of California. :huh:

In SR, the plan was actually different and a tad more plausible. In super villain fashion, Lex was going to “rule the world!” by means of brute strength/advanced technology. He wasn’t going to produce ownership papers when the authorities knocked on his door - because there was no pretext of legal ownership and there’d be no authority left.

Unfortunately, Singer kept giving his Lex the “real estate” lines from STM. And this gave the impression that the schemes were near identical. Had SR kept its scheme but lost all the STM lines, the comparison would be harder to make.
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Btw, the remaining crystals didn’t fall into the ocean. They’re on NK - which is now a small asteroid orbiting the Sun. :word:
 
In a number of ways, SR suffers by being an amalgam of a reboot, a “vague sequel” and a remake.

I think that's the best way to put it, yeah. It was never clear on what the movie wanted to be.
 
In a number of ways, SR suffers by being an amalgam of a reboot, a “vague sequel” and a remake. So even when Singer made an obvious improvement to something from STM, he got blame (with some justification) for copying - rather than credit for fixing. Take Lex’s “real estate” scheme, for instance.

In STM, it was ridiculous. After setting off a couple of nukes and destroying half of California, we were supposed to believe that a wanted criminal would be sitting pretty as the legal owner of the other half of California. :huh:

In SR, the plan was actually different and a tad more plausible. In super villain fashion, Lex was going to “rule the world!” by means of brute strength/advanced technology. He wasn’t going to produce ownership papers when the authorities knocked on his door - because there was no pretext of legal ownership and there’d be no authority left.

Unfortunately, Singer kept giving his Lex the “real estate” lines from STM. And this gave the impression that the schemes were near identical. Had SR kept its scheme but lost all the STM lines, the comparison would be harder to make.
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Btw, the remaining crystals didn’t fall into the ocean. They’re on NK - which is now a small asteroid orbiting the Sun. :word:

Oh you aren't going to tell me that SR did something better than STM. No fricken way. The land plot in STM was creative if you don't think too hard about it. The island thing was just stupid and a wasted opportunity.
 
panel is starting it seems
 
Quint from AICN is live tweeting everything from the WB panel....

Superman footage goes for sombre and legend building over spectacle

and teaser is confirmed by Snyder with TDKR
 
A ton of reactions are saying it feels a lot like Batman Begins except with Superman.
 
3:40PM - Time for Superman... Lights go down and the Man of Steel logo shows on the screen.
3:40PM - Zack Snyder comes to the stage, but nothing has been revealed yet. Zack: "Superman is pretty awesome, you know."
3:41PM - "Superman needed to be reintroduced to a new generation, and this was a chance to do something pretty awesome." They've finished shooting, so they're just working in post-production right now.
3:42PM - Was originally this big blue boyscout up on a throne, but we're trying to make him a little more... you know... but maybe we want to show you some footage.
3:46PM - Wow, got chills from that Superman footage. Quiet, spectacular, looks epic but still all about the beauty and character and his origin. Looks a lot like Batman Begins but for Superman, but not in a bad way, in a Nolan, gritty, realistic, grounded world. I am very, very impressed. I want to see that footage again, it looks so good.
 
3:48PM - "Superman is the king daddy of all superheroes, to make him work it's a big deal, there's a lot of possibilities." Henry Cavill is also here to talk about the movie in the Q&A.
3:49PM - Zack: "It's not about the size of the movie, it's what's cool."
3:50PM - Q&A question about if this is based on a specific Superman story or arc? "We have great respect for the canon and mythology of Superman, so there's certainly a... mashing of stories and ideas."
 
3:52PM - Henry: "With this, hopefully I bring a modern version which everyone can associate with."
3:54PM - Guy comes up to the mic crying, legitimately crying tears because he's so emotional and such a huge fan of Superman, he couldn't speak to them because he's such a big fan, but then blurts out: "can you tell us who the villain is?"
3:58PM - They showed the footage one more time! Still got chills from watching it a second time, looks amazing.
3:59PM - Henry: "I hope I've done everything I can to please you guys, because this is all for you." "I get to wear this on my chest," he says about being able to play Superman.
4:00PM - Some guy comes up to ask - would Nolan's Batman or this Superman win in a fight? Zack's response: "he's awesome... but come on, really?"
 
4:02PM - Where did Henry get his inspiration? "Basically anything I could get my hands on... my favorites, Death of Superman, and Return Superman." He also mentions Red Son [applause] "the elements are the same, he just grew up in a different place."
4:04PM - "How are you going to make General Zod more relatable?" Zack responds, dodging the answer: "Everyone in the film..." [big grin] "would have to be relatable. If they were a guy named that... we would hope that those two characters, if they existed..." trails off. Obviously not going to acknowledge what they want.
4:07PM - Question about Superman possibly crossing over into Justice League. Zack: "Let's say this... Superman is the jewel in the DC crown. What we're trying to do is get his house in order... and then. Who knows what's possible."
4:10PM - Zack Snyder also reveals the new Man of Steel teaser poster, a silhouette mid-section kind of look at Superman. Looks pretty cool, hopefully we'll be able to get a good shot of it online.
 
Teaser poster

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shown on the screen at the WB panel
 
More reaction/buzz of the Man of Steel CC Footage!

Ethan Anderton @Ethan_Anderton
MAN OF STEEL footage has a very BATMAN BEGINS feel to it, but with much bigger action. Doesn't really feel like a Zack Snyder movie at all.
https://***********/Ethan_Anderton/statuses/224273673140441089

Ethan Anderton @Ethan_Anderton
MAN OF STEEL footage was more subtle than anything Zack Snyder has ever brought to Comic-Con. Epic, powerful and dramatic.
https://***********/Ethan_Anderton/statuses/224273808054431744

Steven Weintraub @colliderfrosty
The MAN OF STEEL teaser trailer is ****ing perfection. My most anticapted movie of the next year. I cannot wait.
https://***********/colliderfrosty/statuses/224274121054355457

Empire Magazine @empiremagazine
Man Of Steel trailer just played. One intriguing shot: Superman being marched down a corridor by armed soldiers.
https://***********/empiremagazine/statuses/224273988111695872

Borys Kit @Borys_Kit
Perhaps the most unique looking of all the footage seen from the panels, in terms of cinematography.
https://***********/Borys_Kit/statuses/224274741161230336

LatinoReview-Kel @Latinoreview
1000000000xxx better looking than SUPERMAN RETURNS. Man of Steel really looks promising.
https://***********/Latinoreview/statuses/224274037872918528

Alex Billington @firstshowing
Superman footage gave me chills... wow... subtle, beautiful, looks like the Batman Begins of Superman. Whoa. I am IN!
https://***********/firstshowing/statuses/224273658238091264

Germain Lussier @GermainLussier
Man of Steel did NOT disappoint. Really big, but really pretty and personal with a new twist on the story. Much more soon. #sdcc
https://***********/GermainLussier/statuses/224283296065007616

Matt Patches @misterpatches
Man of Steel definitely has the Batman Begins vibe, but that's not a bad thing. #SDCC
https://***********/misterpatches/statuses/224273638143172608

Steven Weintraub @colliderfrosty
So...just heard the teaser for MAN OF STEEL that's on THE DARK KNIGHT RISES is actually different than what they showed today at comic con.
https://***********/colliderfrosty/statuses/224287950731624449
 
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