All Things Superman: An Open Discussion - - - - Part 13

[Krumm]

Back to the trailer releases, I found it odd that The Lone Ranger has a full trailer and comes out a month after MOS. I don't understand the strategy.

Yes, but did you see that trailer...

 

[JOE]

Is December confirmed for the trailer or speculation?

 

[Zorex]

Yes, but did you see that trailer...

No kidding...

Is December confirmed for the trailer or speculation?

Speculation, but healthy speculation.

 

[GreenKToo]

I feel bad, but I am not familiar with any of those movies.

He was also in groundhog day. he was the newlywed whom murray gave the 'raslin tickets to.

 

[JOE]

Healthy speculation tends to lead to a lot of disappointments... Hopefully they're smart enough to attach it to the hobbit.

 

[Alchemy Arcade]

I think there will be a lot more hype surrounding the future sequel(s) than there's been to MOS. There wasn't near as much General Audience hype for Batman Begins with the GA because it had to prove to them it deserved sequels and the hype that preceded them.

I willing to bet Man of Steel follows suit and gets the GA hyped for Superman films again.
Sadly fanboys and fangirls like us will have to wait it out through the marketing dry spell of the first film.

 

[Zorex]

Healthy speculation tends to lead to a lot of disappointments... Hopefully they're smart enough to attach it to the hobbit.

I think you're confusing "healthy speculation" with fanboy delusion.

It's healthy in that it recognizes probability without guaranteeing certainty.

 

[Glassjaw]

There's an opinion piece about MoS on the front page of The Guardian at the moment. It can basically be summed up with 'should MoS have gone the more light hearted Avengers route rather then trying to follow The Dark Knight formula?'

http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/filmblog/2012/oct/05/superman-man-of-steel-time

It's an ok read, but its something for the general public, I think anyone whose followed this film will be wondering exactly what the author of the article has added to the discussion abou MoS.

Still, I'd encourage anything that might make WB release something to do with the film sooner to silence those on the fence about this film.

 

[Zorex]

There's an opinion piece about MoS on the front page of The Guardian at the moment. It can basically be summed up with 'should MoS have gone the more light hearted Avengers route rather then trying to follow The Dark Knight formula?'

http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/filmblog/2012/oct/05/superman-man-of-steel-time

It's an ok read, but its something for the general public, I think anyone whose followed this film will be wondering exactly what the author of the article has added to the discussion abou MoS.

Still, I'd encourage anything that might make WB release something to do with the film sooner to silence those on the fence about this film.

I think the author is, like a lot of people, struggling to understand if this movie will epitomize the buzzword descriptor of "dark" (which I'm glad he acknowledges can be more attributed to the fans than the makers) or subdued/grounded. This struggle is easy to understand, as the materials released thus far are, indeed, a bit opaque.

 

[terry78]

Batman and Superman are two entirely different genres who just happen to inhabit the same universe. That is how I have always viewed them, hence their abilities to clash, yet get along so well at times in the same breath. I know Nolan and Goyer are kind of attempting to humanize him as they did with Bats, but you have to tread lightly, considering.

 

[charl_huntress]

There's an opinion piece about MoS on the front page of The Guardian at the moment. It can basically be summed up with 'should MoS have gone the more light hearted Avengers route rather then trying to follow The Dark Knight formula?'

http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/filmblog/2012/oct/05/superman-man-of-steel-time

It's an ok read, but its something for the general public, I think anyone whose followed this film will be wondering exactly what the author of the article has added to the discussion abou MoS.

Still, I'd encourage anything that might make WB release something to do with the film sooner to silence those on the fence about this film.

Thanks for sharing. I'm going to check it out.

 

[BH/HHH]

What an idiotic article it's not like Rises didn't make a hell of a lot of money just because Avengers made more means nothing. Also these people saying Dredds BO is worrying etc for the genre don't understand that the film was marketed poorly with very little promotion, most people didn't even know it was out or coming out. The articles asking if its out of tune with our times asif all films need to be lighthearted or gritty there's room for both and more.

 

[Herolee10]

I just hope that we get some new pictures and trailer before this year is up...I mean it'd be sad to think that we close this year without getting any more pictures or footage.

Hell, if it wasn't for the photos taken on set, then we wouldn't really have anything else to see since the WB hasn't officially released anything else other than a teaser poster and the first photo of Cavil as Superman back in August 2011.

 

[Zorex]

Hell, if it wasn't for the photos taken on set, then we wouldn't really have anything else to see since the WB hasn't officially released anything else other than a teaser poster and the first photo of Cavil as Superman back in August 2011.

Uhh, err... Teaser poster, teaser trailer, costume displays. Then there's that leaked Comic Con trailer. It's not like we've seen absolutely nothing. Let's all breathe and remember that December is not that far away, and, regardless... the movie will still come out.

 

[Herolee10]

Uhh, err... Teaser poster, teaser trailer, costume displays. Then there's that leaked Comic Con trailer. It's not like we've seen absolutely nothing. Let's all breathe and remember that December is not that far away, and, regardless... the movie will still come out.

lol; well I meant the stuff that's been officially released by Warner Bros. (Teaser Poster/Trailer)...and the comic con one doesn't count since it hasn't even been leaked in HQ format like Thor's one was.

I really do hope that we get some great new footage soon.

 

[Enriquespy]

Batman and Superman are two entirely different genres who just happen to inhabit the same universe. That is how I have always viewed them, hence their abilities to clash, yet get along so well at times in the same breath. I know Nolan and Goyer are kind of attempting to humanize him as they did with Bats, but you have to tread lightly, considering.

This.


In other news, the teaser poster finally came to the cinema here in México but there is no sight of the teaser trailer. No one seems to know the movie is coming, hype is very low in here.

 

[solidsnake86]

The only time people need to be aware of the movie is the month leading up to its release. No one will care about what is released now because very few people, besides movie fans, count down the days until its release this far out.

Internet buzz really doesn't mean anything (snakes on a plane anyone?).

The most important thing that will help this movie is if it is well received. Superman returns managed to crack 200 million domestic for a movie that some consider "unwatchable." Thats quite an achievement considering very few movies are able to make more than that.

 

[DoomsdayApex]

Batman and Superman are two entirely different genres who just happen to inhabit the same universe. That is how I have always viewed them, hence their abilities to clash, yet get along so well at times in the same breath. I know Nolan and Goyer are kind of attempting to humanize him as they did with Bats, but you have to tread lightly, considering.

The whole reason why Nolan's Dark Knight Trilogy was immensely successful was because Nolan humanized the character. It wasn't just a Batman film. Nolan gave life to the man behind the cowl, symbol and legend. Remarkable importance was placed on Bruce Wayne's arc, and it paid off. I believe the same has to be done for Superman in order for the audience to find Kal-El relatable.

As for that article,

The last thing WB should do is copy Marvel Studios. Man of Steel and Justice League should strive to be something more.

 

[Herolee10]

Just realized that this may most likely be our first Superman film where we don't get the credits playing in the front of the film with the main theme in the background.lol My guess, it's possible that we'll just get the symbol and the title before cutting to the film.

 

[Alexei Belyakov]

Just realized that this may most likely be our first Superman film where we don't get the credits playing in the front of the film with the main theme in the background.lol My guess, it's possible that we'll just get the symbol and the title before cutting to the film.

I hope so.

I want the Dark Knight treatment given to Supes.

WARNER BROS.

LEGENDARY PICTURES

SYNCOPY

DC COMICS

The Superman symbol forms and then we cut to the film.

Just the thought of that mesmerizes me.

 

[charl_huntress]

I feel like too many people are mesmerized by Nolan...not that the Batman trilogy isn't great, but....I have my doubts. I feel like this is exactly what we saw with Bryan Singer, who was then anoited as the new god of CBMs....

 

[Alexei Belyakov]

I feel like too many people are mesmerized by Nolan...not that the Batman trilogy isn't great, but....I have my doubts. I feel like this is exactly what we saw with Bryan Singer, who was then anoited as the new god of CBMs....

Singer's a good director, but Nolan's far greater.

Nolan is yet to do a bad film.

 

[charl_huntress]

Doesn't mean he can't. Singer was still riding on his high from the usual suspects and the 2 X-Men films....

 

[Alexei Belyakov]

Doesn't mean he can't. Singer was still riding on his high from the usual suspects and the 2 X-Men films....

Singer lost his touch when he pursued Returns.

He'd been an inspired director up to that point that gave up the franchise he brilliantly conceived in favor of a sequel to a 25-year-old movie (his favorite film).

The guy just lost it.

 

[Herolee10]

Doesn't mean he can't. Singer was still riding on his high from the usual suspects and the 2 X-Men films....

Agreed; like someone else one said awhile back, just because One Director is great with a particular set of characters, doesn't mean that they'd be the best for every kind.

Look at Tim Burton; when it comes to this own style of films, he can deliver, but when it comes to something that out of his genre, namely Batman and Superman, he can go very far off from the source material.

I don't think it's also so much about a Director's competency as opposed to the type of story and vision that they have that they want to show audiences of the character(s) that they're handling. Singer wanted to do a Superman film that was strongly tied to Donner's film; his love for that film blinded him imho on how to objectively approach the film like a director should.


I admire Chris Nolan as a director and writer, and like some have said, he has yet to make a film that's been labeled as critically bad or medicore in general, but even with his greatest films, there will be people who will have issues with the plot and such.

Just because Nolan succeeded with Batman for the most part, I'm not entirely wiling to give him the keys of the kingdom and say that I trust him completely. However, in the same time, he is the best candidate that the franchise has had in awhile to help shape the story in some way.