All Things Superman: An Open Discussion - Part 3

[routhman]

James Cameron is not a great filmmaker. So overrated. Titanic made a bunch of money because of teenage girls in love with Leo. Avatar...ugh. Didn't like it. Not an engaging story, relied to heavily of special effects.

Agreed on Cameron being overrated. Your assertion on Titanic's success, though, is flawed. Let's go through the numbers.

Titanic made a third of its money in the United States, $600,788,188. At that time, the US population for people under 18 was ~70,000,000. Breaking that down further, if we assume equal population among ages, we only want people between 13 and 18, inclusive; therefore, we want 6/18 (or 1/3) of 70,000,000, bringing us to 23,333,334 people (rounding up). NOW only HALF those people are females, so in 1997, the US had approximately 11,666,667 females between ages 13 and 18. If every single one of these young women saw Titanic, they would have to pay ~$4.68, the average ticket price in 1997. At that price, if every girl in the US saw the film once, then they would contribute $54,600,002 to the total domestic gross. Even if every teenage girl in the US saw the film 3 times, they'd only account for 27.3% of the total US gross.

Now those estimates are way too high! Let's say only 4/5 teenage females saw the film and saw it an average of 1.5 times. In that case, they'd only account for 10.9% of the total US gross.

Contrary to popular belief, it wasn't the teenage female population!

I love all the Lord of the Rings movies, and The Dark Knight...in my opinion those are outliers and exceptions to the rule (which I might have made up earlier). You haven't convinced me sir, but nice try.

Strive to be the exception! Convinced yet? Or maybe I have to dig up more outliers until you see that they aren't really outliers at all.

Want to try again?

Certainly.

 

[FilmNerdJamie]

Superman IS much more than a costume, but the costume COMPLETES Superman. again, i don't mind so much that they took away his trunks...but the design just isn't inspired. i'm open to a new costume as long as it looks good...i wish i could say the same for SOME people.

The core elements of the classic suit (the \S/ symbol, red cape and boots, blue suit) have always been there over the years. But you always get artists who come in every decade or so and tweak it here and there. Whether it be for the comics, cartoons, movies, etc. Not a big deal personally nor is it the first or last time it's happened.

That George Perez promo made it look terrible for my money. On the other hand, I thought it looked perfectly fine with that Justice League promo. All about context.

 

[Kal-El.9859]

The core elements of the classic suit (the \S/ symbol, red cape and boots, blue suit) have always been there over the years. But you always get artists who come in every decade or so and tweak it here and there. Whether it be for the comics, cartoons, movies, etc. Not a big deal personally nor is it the first or last time it's happened.

That George Perez promo made it look terrible for my money. On the other hand, I thought it looked perfectly fine with that Justice League promo. All about context.

the ad DC is running for Converse shoes, the new suit looks horrid!

 

[Sabaoth]

the ad DC is running for Converse shoes, the new suit looks horrid!

Would you not go see MOS if Cavill ends up wearing it?

 

[Kal-El.9859]

Would you not go see MOS if Cavill ends up wearing it?

If it looks as bad as it does in that DC Converse ad I might just stay home because that suit looks like ****

 

[Doc Ock]

Is it wrong for me to assume that Zod and Jor-El are going to fight each other? Since Russell Crowe was cast.

EDIT: Or might be cast.

 

[Kal-El.9859]

Is it wrong for me to assume that Zod and Jor-El are going to fight each other? Since Russell Crowe was cast.

I honestly wouldn't mind seeing that

 

[Stephen K. Hone]

the ad DC is running for Converse shoes, the new suit looks horrid!

And isn't the \S/ on the Converse shoes version different from the initial pictures of the new costume? They seem to be all over the place with this design.

 

[Kal-El.9859]

And isn't the \S/ on the Converse shoes version different from the initial pictures of the new costume? They seem to be all over the place with this design.

YES!! It looks absolutely terrible!!! I hate it and everything about it looks bad

 

[Rowsdower!]

Is it wrong for me to assume that Zod and Jor-El are going to fight each other? Since Russell Crowe was cast.

EDIT: Or might be cast.

Well, to be fair, Russell has been in plenty of non-action roles. But that would be cool.

 

[hopefuldreamer]

Well, to be fair, Russell has been in plenty of non-action roles. But that would be cool.

I dunno why, but in my head it's this huge fight scene while Krypton is literally crumbling around them.

 

[Ita-KalEl]

After GL I'm starting to think that DC/WB will continue to bet only on Superman and Batman.

 

[Zahack]

Hey everyone just got to the casting call. There is a sign for superman casting call not AF.

 

[Rust]

I dunno why, but in my head it's this huge fight scene while Krypton is literally crumbling around them.

And Jor-El and Lara didnt die because of the planet's destruction, but because Zod murdered them both.

They need to add these kinda details to the reboot if they want the GA to care. It has to be a little aggressive and violent in nature, at least some aspects of it. It has to be a somewhat ballsy this time.

 

[Lead Cenobite]

That could be the explanation for why Jor-El and Lara stayed behind. They did it to make sure Zod didn't prevent Kal-El from being sent to Earth and were killed in the process, or maybe they died from falling debris during the struggle.

 

[BH/HHH]

After GL I'm starting to think that DC/WB will continue to bet only on Superman and Batman.

Not if it makes millions they won't. End of the day aslong as GLs successful at the box office they will continue to make more films.

 

[GreenKToo]

It will probably make 55/60 mill in it's opening. Not bad for someone not named Superman or Batman. That should give them some hope for the other DC properties.
If GL had A better story and pacing, no telling what it could have been.

 

[Zahack]

Sorry guys no news came out of the casting. They said they would let people know late July for filming in aug/sep. They asked about your car, they need new and period cars. They said there filming in Plano ( should make a good smallville) and Chicagoland aera. Most of this is old news tho. Good luck to the others people that went! Oh and there where about ten moms with double strollers so I'm guessing they will find there baby kal.

 

[FilmNerdJamie]

Soft $58 million opening projected for Green Lantern.

God would it not surprise anyone if something dropped on The Man of Steel soon to divert that.

 

[Kal-El.9859]

Soft $58 million opening projected for Green Lantern.

God would it not surprise anyone if something dropped on The Man of Steel soon to divert that.

I hope so. Despite the crappy box office numbers all of my friends have said they liked it

 

[MydnightPhoenix]

I've seen, so far, that critics don't like it; but fans who have seen it did like it. Is 58 million, not good or something?

 

[Kal-El.9859]

I'd like to have 58 million in my bank account

 

[GreenKToo]

Not really...this is a film with a 200mill + budget. same thing happened with SR. It did about 54 mill it's opening weekend. I seriously doubt GL hits 200 mill tho.

 

[Kal-El.9859]

I'd still like to have $58mil in my bank account...

 

[Doc Ock]

I hope so. Despite the crappy box office numbers all of my friends have said they liked it

My friends who saw it liked it too. They aren't comic book fans either.