All Things Superman: An Open Discussion - Part 3

[FilmNerdJamie]

$318 million domestic gross. Definitely.

 

[Llama_Shepherd]

In the box office? Really? I wasnt sure. Ok then.

$318,412,101 in the United States, $266,762,121, other territories, against a $140, 000, 000 budget. Iron Man was an astounding success.


Ooh, ninja'd.

 

[Mr. Earle]

So when can we have the first info about GL's box office? After the weekend?

 

[Superman2007]

Green Lantern made $3.35M from midnight screenings...not sure what that could spell for the rest of the weekend. Jamie or Show might have some insights...

 

[GreenKToo]

IF GL fails, I wonder whose head will roll, and *IF* it does bomb, then I guess we can kiss Flash, GA, and WW goodbye, at least for a few more years.

 

[sf2]

i think GL is doing pretty good. it has a high chance doing better than SR, just like Thor.

 

[FilmNerdJamie]

One can't gage an opening weekend strictly on the midnight screening grosses. Not for something as in the niche/unknown factor as Green Lantern. Because that's the devoted going out to see it first and nothing more.

Something like Batman, Harry Potter and Twilight doing $10-20 million and up? Yeah...that's way more than just fandom showing up and translation that we're looking at a killer opening weekend.

But a $3.35 million midnight? Hard to tell.

 

[GreenKToo]

well, i'm pulling for it for the sake of the other DC properties.

 

[Showtime]

i think GL is doing pretty good. it has a high chance doing better than SR, just like Thor.

Thor isn't going to come close to cracking $200 Million domestic, are you referring to World Wide?

 

[Tacit Ronin]

But, you have to remember that Nolan and Goyer developed the story for MoS, so its not just going to be an adventure and action flick. Its going to have an interesting story with characters that grow and develop over the course of the film.

The two concepts aren't mutually exclusive. A good adventure/action film should have solid character development.

James Cameron is not a great filmmaker.

No. He is more than great.

 

[Rust]

Off topic: Apparently a low quality-teaser for TDKR is up at that site which we cant mention. Looks like an angry teaser for Superman with all that red.

I guess WB is getting a bit desperate...

 

[Sabaoth]

Good news!

Here is something of interest,

http://www.nbcnewyork.com/blogs/pop...plit-Up-Superman-and-Lois-Lane-124020299.html

Sure, the article is about the impending dissolution of the marriage, but there is something mentioned by Didio, that confirms what some of us have said about the true purpose behind Flashpoint Superman, that being to make the comic book Superman resemble the version we will see in Man of Steel.
From the article,

While the overall DC re-launch – and plans to release digital editions of its comics on the same day of the print issues – has been designed to provide a greater appeal to new readers at a time when DC-based films including “Green Lantern,” “The Dark Knight Rises” and “Superman: The Man of Steel” are poised to introduce the company’s characters to a new generation, Didio says the decision to alter decades of continuity, revamp some superheroes and bring others back to basics wasn’t specifically intended to better reflect the movie storylines.
“We're developing this all ourselves right now, so that's the good part about it,” he says, though readers new and old can expect a decent amount of creative cross-pollination with concepts from Hollywood (DC Entertainment recently opened a Los Angeles office dedicated to overseeing its movie tie-in and digital publishing efforts in concert with parent company Warner Bros.). “We really keep the comics focused for themselves and where we're going with them, but the real thing is that with Geoff Johns in his position as Chief Creative Officer, he's our top writer, but also he's involved in the movies and books. And he really understands our characters at the core. And knows really what makes them work, not just as comic book characters, but really as multimedia characters.”


That confirms that Man of Steel is an influence on the "new" Superman we will be enjoying soon.

I'm now convinced that the new Superman costume in the comics and merchandising, as used on the new Converse shoe, will be the same that Cavill will wear in the Man of Steel.
It's an exciting time to be a Superman fan!

 

[DorkyFresh]

seeing as how the new DC suit has most fans facepalming....how is this GOOD news?

 

[Mr. Earle]

Its good news because the movies will be closer to the comics and vice versa. It will be easier for movie fans to jump in the books so DC will survive and they hopefully wont need any more stunts like this relaunch.

 

[DorkyFresh]

most of us realize that this movie will be closer to the comics than the previous ones. i'm particularly talking about the suit...

 

[Mr. Earle]

Oh, that's what you meant... Yeah.. I dont know.

Its pretty obvious that they re trying to promote their comics with the movies so if even comics superman doesnt have panties, you can be sure that his movie counterpart wont either. The suits will be very close if not identical. I just dont get the armoured look.

 

[Kal-El.9859]

Good news!

Here is something of interest,

http://www.nbcnewyork.com/blogs/pop...plit-Up-Superman-and-Lois-Lane-124020299.html

Sure, the article is about the impending dissolution of the marriage, but there is something mentioned by Didio, that confirms what some of us have said about the true purpose behind Flashpoint Superman, that being to make the comic book Superman resemble the version we will see in Man of Steel.
From the article,

While the overall DC re-launch – and plans to release digital editions of its comics on the same day of the print issues – has been designed to provide a greater appeal to new readers at a time when DC-based films including “Green Lantern,” “The Dark Knight Rises” and “Superman: The Man of Steel” are poised to introduce the company’s characters to a new generation, Didio says the decision to alter decades of continuity, revamp some superheroes and bring others back to basics wasn’t specifically intended to better reflect the movie storylines.
“We're developing this all ourselves right now, so that's the good part about it,” he says, though readers new and old can expect a decent amount of creative cross-pollination with concepts from Hollywood (DC Entertainment recently opened a Los Angeles office dedicated to overseeing its movie tie-in and digital publishing efforts in concert with parent company Warner Bros.). “We really keep the comics focused for themselves and where we're going with them, but the real thing is that with Geoff Johns in his position as Chief Creative Officer, he's our top writer, but also he's involved in the movies and books. And he really understands our characters at the core. And knows really what makes them work, not just as comic book characters, but really as multimedia characters.”


That confirms that Man of Steel is an influence on the "new" Superman we will be enjoying soon.

I'm now convinced that the new Superman costume in the comics and merchandising, as used on the new Converse shoe, will be the same that Cavill will wear in the Man of Steel.
It's an exciting time to be a Superman fan!

If that's the suit in the movie now is a bad time to be a Superman fan because that looks EFFING LAME!
and that doesn't "confirm" anything really...

 

[Sabaoth]

seeing as how the new DC suit has most fans facepalming....how is this GOOD news?

To say "the new DC suit has most fans facepalming" is quite an exaggeration.
Sure, an insignificant number of fanboys, who post here and there, may not like it, but that is not at all representative of "most fans"; the truth is that we won't know until the new comics and the movie come out.
I love the new suit and so do many other fans.
FYI My ten year old nephew , who happens to be a huge superhero fan, just saw the George Perez cover for Superman #1, and he thinks it's "cool".
The truth is that the lack of red underwear didn't make him think Superman was any less Super, because in his mind, Superman is much more than just a costume. I wish I could say the same for some people.

 

[DorkyFresh]

Its pretty obvious that they re trying to promote their comics with the movies so if even comics superman doesnt have panties, you can be sure that his movie counterpart wont either.

ugh, really???

It's not panties, it's trunks. It urks me when folks call them panties just to pi$$ others off. The more you do it, the more resistance you'll meet against change.

The suits will be very close if not identical. I just dont get the armoured look.

if the new DC suit is the best that professional movie concept artists can come up with and/or WB and Nolan will allow to appear on the screen...then that's a pretty big fail. i'm not even opposed to changing the suit and/or removing the trunks but if that's the best that Snyder and co. will give us, then this will be the first costume from Snyder's movies that i actually DON'T like.

 

[Kal-El.9859]

I agree with Dorky...if that's the best they can come up with we're in bad shape here

 

[DorkyFresh]

To say "the new DC suit has most fans facepalming" is quite an exaggeration.
Sure, an insignificant number of fanboys, who post here and there, may not like it, but that is not at all representative of "most fans"

SHH is probably one of the biggest collectives of movie and comic fans on the net. if there's any indication of how the fanbase would react to the new suit, i'd say that this is a pretty good one. if we were on a video game forum, it would be different but this forum directly deals with films based on comics. even if you want to discredit these boards, you can't discredit the entirety of the internet...which has a plethora of articles from various websites (both comic related and general) with comments expressing the similar distaste for the new suit as the comments made on these boards.

FYI My ten year old nephew , who happens to be a huge superhero fan, just saw the George Perez cover for Superman #1, and he thinks it's "cool".

yeah well, my dog saw the image and farted...

The truth is that the lack of red underwear didn't make him think Superman was any less Super, because in his mind, Superman is much more than just a costume. I wish I could say the same for some people.

Superman IS much more than a costume, but the costume COMPLETES Superman. again, i don't mind so much that they took away his trunks...but the design just isn't inspired. i'm open to a new costume as long as it looks good...i wish i could say the same for SOME people.

 

[Willi Berg]

But is the movie suit ever completely like the comic suit though. Even GL movie suit hasn't been adapted into the DC relaunch and neither has Nolan's Batman suit. The movies can still do their own style, tweaks, version etc.

I wouldn't be surprised if the red trunks go, since we heard that with McG's version as well as George Miller's for Justice League. I actually don't mind the high collar. But I don't think we can say we know what Snyder and co. will come up with yet.

 

[Kal-El.9859]

SHH is probably one of the biggest collectives of movie and comic fans on the net. if there's any indication of how the fanbase would react to the new suit, i'd say that this is a pretty good one. if we were on a video game forum, it would be different but this forum directly deals with films based on comics. even if you want to discredit these boards, you can't discredit the entirety of the internet...which has a plethora of articles from various websites (both comic related and general) with comments expressing the similar distaste for the new suit as the comments made on these boards.


yeah well, my dog saw the image and farted...


Superman IS much more than a costume, but the costume COMPLETES Superman. again, i don't mind so much that they took away his trunks...but the design just isn't inspired. i'm open to a new costume as long as it looks good...i wish i could say the same for SOME people.

why most people don't understand this I have no clue

 

[Stephen K. Hone]

To say "the new DC suit has most fans facepalming" is quite an exaggeration.
Sure, an insignificant number of fanboys, who post here and there, may not like it, but that is not at all representative of "most fans"; the truth is that we won't know until the new comics and the movie come out.
I love the new suit and so do many other fans.
FYI My ten year old nephew , who happens to be a huge superhero fan, just saw the George Perez cover for Superman #1, and he thinks it's "cool".
The truth is that the lack of red underwear didn't make him think Superman was any less Super, because in his mind, Superman is much more than just a costume. I wish I could say the same for some people.

You have it back to front. The people such as yourself that want the costume changed, or the trunks ditched, are an insignificant number of fan boys. Those that want the classic retained massively outnumber you guys.

 

[Kal-El.9859]

You have it back to front. The people such as yourself that want the costume changed, or the trunks ditched, are an insignificant number of fan boys. Those that want the classic retained massively outnumber you guys.

we should revolt and storm the DC offices