All Things Superman: An Open Discussion - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Part 30

[DarthSkywalker]

The gauntlets would look cooler if they were shorter, like two circles long tops, which would mke them cuffs, basically. Long ones look really out of place.

The suit just doesn't look good on any of these too me. The elevated bits look weird with the plain suit texture and the barrel chested Superman.

Well, I'm still hoping that we get to see Superman cut loose with the Robot army that Zod has in this film. I'm actually glad that they're robots since it'll allow the character to actually cut loose without having to deal with the whole "i will not kill" policy applying to them.

Plus, I can't ever remember seeing a live action scenario that allowed Superman the position of doing things that we'd see him normally do in the comics and animated shows.

Is a robot army confirmed?

 

[GreenKToo]

The suit just doesn't look good on any of these too me. The elevated bits look weird with the plain suit texture and the barrel chested Superman.



Is a robot army confirmed?

not for sure, but we did see toy lego robots. I think it was legos anyway.

 

[The Shield]

It isn't just the reaction from everyday people. I want to see the response from the White House, Pentagon, NASA, and others around the world.

I would like them to treat Kal El's ship crashing as a UFO crash. Have NASA track it and the goverment send men in contamination suits to approach the site.

You also nailed it.

I like the way they did it in Armageddon, showed people from every corner of the world praying and following the heroes. It gave me the spine-tingle-epic feeling that i really urge for. That it is serious for real. I have never got these feelings from watching the current superhero movies.

I really hope that we get this in MOS. If we do, oh man.......

All of these! I would love to see real type reactions too a being like Superman and an full blown alien attack. That's what I wanted in the Avengers. I want to feel the size of the impact of something like that on a world scale.

 

[ThePhantasm]

not for sure, but we did see toy lego robots. I think it was legos anyway.

There have been no Lego robots. Lego revealed Tor-An.

 

[WoodyROM]

Can someone direct me to the recent screening review that spoke about the cape?

 

[hopefuldreamer]

not for sure, but we did see toy lego robots. I think it was legos anyway.

Yeah, at about 0.38 in this advert, the narrator directly says 'Zod's Robot army' and then goes on to show how the aim is to hit all the targets to break the Black Zero spaceship apart before it can activate the gravity beam (it amazes me that pretty much the biggest indication of plot has come from toy adverts )

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Just don't ask me what the hell is up with Zod being some kind of white face demon looking guy, or why there is seemingly a red suited Superman...

 

[ThePhantasm]

There was also a robot action figure pic. Came with a really short Superman. Can't find the pic now.

 

[fangz]

It isn't just the reaction from everyday people. I want to see the response from the White House, Pentagon, NASA, and others around the world.

I'm totally looking forward to this movie, love the Superman character, can't wait for this.

and this isn't just directed to u but to a number of people who've expressed this in this thread.

But this kind of thing is so depressing to me. I remember the first time noticing it was in Contact, and how everything had to be shown on CNN about these aliens landing and Jodi Foster sitting on the couch eating potato chips or whatever watching it. and it all made me embarrassed to be human.

Like, oh look, this is the only way I can understand what's happening is if all the actors act like a big idiot like me and if we got CNN really saying what's going on. And since then, every movie seems like they have to toss this kind of crap in there. Like probably most depressing to me is how they'll make up some dumb scene where a reporter is watching the superhero and then they'll clumsily blurt something out that ends up being the reason why the superhero is named what they are. and people saying 'The Bat' instead of 'Batman'. or stupid shots of the newspaper headlines saying for the first time, 'Who is this Spider Man?' and then we know how he got his name of Spider-Man. it's so depressing, why do people need this?
what makes it better?
personally, I like when things are stylized, like my example of good acting is definitely not the 70's or late 60's, it's like 40's, 50's, certain types of movies in the 80's.
i guess i just don't get it and no one's gonna be able to convince me, but i'm just asking the question becuz i'd be interesting to see how u guys think about this...
why?

it totally seems like it's counter-imaginative,
i guess to me, superheros are such a stylized thing that it's almost the equivalent of poetry vs straight prose. I don't mean the same supposed meaning culturally, but I mean that if something is poetry, there's certain rules that u buy into, that are defining what it is, u don't question why a poem rhymes, like u don't think in your head...
well that's weird, i don't talk like that, in fact, no one talk's like that, that's just crazy!
no. u know that it's poetry and are expecting it to express itself in some way that is hyper-real.
so to me comic books are the same way and little invasions about reporters on CNN talking about this stuff is super depressing. what the hell is the fun of that?

 

[Mysteryman]

All I can say is if those reactions put me in the moment, then it enhances the experience for me further .
It makes me feel as if it is happening or at least that it could .

 

[fangz]

All of these! I would love to see real type reactions too a being like Superman and an full blown alien attack. That's what I wanted in the Avengers. I want to feel the size of the impact of something like that on a world scale.

really this and the quotes you've replied to in the original post are what i'm talking about.

what about your imagination? aren't some things better left to fill in the spaces on your own? i mean, aren't those CNN type of scenes kind of obvious and depressing to be hit over the head with?

they only ever add the most brutally apparent context for anything. those make u happy and not sickened? haha. obviously, right. it's a difference in values and i'm just so sick of this kind of approach to things. I don't mean to imply insults or to pretend to ask questions I know the answers to, cuz really I do get it, and we're just different.

I can't wait for this 'realism' schtick to run it's course tho. Gimme some good old fashioned drama, we haven't had that in a while. Man, this new stuff is all made for video game kids that need every damn thing clubbed into their foreheads or else they gotta do something else. And then later they gotta complain about 'plotholes' the 'size you could drive a truck thru'.

I guess this really explains a lot to me now that i think about it.

 

[fangz]

ugh, i'm an idiot, that all sounds really pompous, i'm sorry

 

[fangz]

haha, Superman's gonna be a rad movie, I really can't wait for it to come out.
:

 

[Nemeres]

I'm totally looking forward to this movie, love the Superman character, can't wait for this.

and this isn't just directed to u but to a number of people who've expressed this in this thread.

But this kind of thing is so depressing to me. I remember the first time noticing it was in Contact, and how everything had to be shown on CNN about these aliens landing and Jodi Foster sitting on the couch eating potato chips or whatever watching it. and it all made me embarrassed to be human.

Like, oh look, this is the only way I can understand what's happening is if all the actors act like a big idiot like me and if we got CNN really saying what's going on. And since then, every movie seems like they have to toss this kind of crap in there. Like probably most depressing to me is how they'll make up some dumb scene where a reporter is watching the superhero and then they'll clumsily blurt something out that ends up being the reason why the superhero is named what they are. and people saying 'The Bat' instead of 'Batman'. or stupid shots of the newspaper headlines saying for the first time, 'Who is this Spider Man?' and then we know how he got his name of Spider-Man. it's so depressing, why do people need this?
what makes it better?
personally, I like when things are stylized, like my example of good acting is definitely not the 70's or late 60's, it's like 40's, 50's, certain types of movies in the 80's.
i guess i just don't get it and no one's gonna be able to convince me, but i'm just asking the question becuz i'd be interesting to see how u guys think about this...
why?

it totally seems like it's counter-imaginative,
i guess to me, superheros are such a stylized thing that it's almost the equivalent of poetry vs straight prose. I don't mean the same supposed meaning culturally, but I mean that if something is poetry, there's certain rules that u buy into, that are defining what it is, u don't question why a poem rhymes, like u don't think in your head...
well that's weird, i don't talk like that, in fact, no one talk's like that, that's just crazy!
no. u know that it's poetry and are expecting it to express itself in some way that is hyper-real.
so to me comic books are the same way and little invasions about reporters on CNN talking about this stuff is super depressing. what the hell is the fun of that?

Speaking for myself, great part of the fun of superhero movies comes from imagining how it would be if they existed in the real world, and that includes CNN reports, showing the process behind a superhero's moniker, etc. It does get overused and it's pretty cheesy sometimes, like in Fantastic Four 2, when Reed Richards calls the Silver Surfer "this 'silver surfer'" because Johnny described him as silver guy with a surfing board. But movies like ID4, for instance, wouldn't be as much fun if there wasn't that slow build-up, that slow introduction of fantastical elements into the real world just so that when the poop hits the fan, you actually feel it. I like it overall.

 

[fangz]

Speaking for myself, great part of the fun of superhero movies comes from imagining how it would be if they existed in the real world, and that includes CNN reports, showing the process behind a superhero's moniker, etc. It does get overused and it's pretty cheesy sometimes, like in Fantastic Four 2, when Reed Richards calls the Silver Surfer "this 'silver surfer'" because Johnny described him as silver guy with a surfing board. But movies like ID4, for instance, wouldn't be as much fun if there wasn't that slow build-up, that slow introduction of fantastical elements into the real world just so that when the poop hits the fan, you actually feel it. I like it overall.

totally, yeah, i just lost it for a second, but that kinda Silver Surfer thing just drives me up the wall, but you're right too cuz at the same time, it can happen in a Spider-Man flick or in TDK and it just doesn't seem to stick, cuz the movie is well done, there's other things that are way more important than all that stuff I was complaining about.

 

[fangz]

what's ID4 by the way? u made me want to check it out and see what you meant..

 

[Nemeres]

what's ID4 by the way? u made me want to check it out and see what you meant..

It's Independence Day, the alien invasion movie with Will Smith.

 

[G.Godfrey]

Some guy posted a supposed 3rd trailer description on JobLo forums. Somehow I managed to read it even though I swore I'll avoid it like the plague. But thankfully, it sounds like BS so I hope it isn't true otherwise I'll be disappointed yet again. t:

If anyone wants to read it, here you go

http://www.joblo.com/forums/showthread.php?t=148987

 

[ElDuderino]

Adding a few more to that:

Superman is on Krypton at some point? Perhaps not.

 

[ElDuderino]

Some guy posted a supposed 3rd trailer description on JobLo forums. Somehow I managed to read it even though I swore I'll avoid it like the plague. But thankfully, it sounds like BS so I hope it isn't true otherwise I'll be disappointed yet again. t:

If anyone wants to read it, here you go

http://www.joblo.com/forums/showthread.php?t=148987

That reads like a scam e-mail from an African prince trying to get you to help get his family's money out of the country.

 

[G.Godfrey]

That reads like a scam e-mail from an African prince trying to get you to help get his family's money out of the country.

 

[BH/HHH]

Some guy posted a supposed 3rd trailer description on JobLo forums. Somehow I managed to read it even though I swore I'll avoid it like the plague. But thankfully, it sounds like BS so I hope it isn't true otherwise I'll be disappointed yet again. t:

If anyone wants to read it, here you go

http://www.joblo.com/forums/showthread.php?t=148987

Well I've learned not to dismiss anything after that last trailer description I shot down. So I'm gonna sit on the fence and wait to see if its true.

If it is true I hope

Spoiler

Superman vs a Tank recaptures this image:

although I remember Jay Oliva saying he didn't want to do certain things the same way in the Dark Knight Returns Part 2 as he'd done them on MOS

 

[G.Godfrey]

Well I've learned not to dismiss anything after that last trailer description I shot down. So I'm gonna sit on the fence and wait to see if its true.

I hear ya, but remember we also got a few fake ones along the way. The ones that popped up weeks (or in one case, a few months) before the trailer premiered. Usually descriptions start coming when the theaters get the trailer. I believe TDKR had quite a few fake ones. That's why I don't believe this one to be true, too early. I am however disappointed at my lack of strength. I just couldn't help myself from reading what could be spoilers. But I blame that on the timeline. If it was a week before the trailer I would have resisted...I think...I hope...

 

[Rust]

Sure sounds like bogus, so it's probably true.

 

[ThePhantasm]

When the guy says "I could use my job over this," he's actually referring to his horrible grammar, misuse of words, and poor sentence structure, not to the spoilers.

 

[G.Godfrey]

Eeeeh it pretty much tells us everything we know from all the spoilers, toys and so on. Nothing new. At least the other description had Clark floating in the water and actual dialogue. Also, crystals? I hope not. I call bogus.