All Things Superman: An Open Discussion - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Part 52

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matt47 said:
I just figured that they are only wearing the masks and armor in smallville because they might not know if/how invincible they are on earth? but later on in act 3 they wont wear it?
Just a thought.
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As it's been explained before, they wear masks to prevent sensory overload.
 
Kryptonian God said:
It makes sense because, in a way, the yellow sun geometricaly (or exponentially?) increases a Kryptonian's natural strength.
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Exactly....and if they are engineered to be strong fighters on Krypton, just imagine how much stronger they will be on Earth...
 
Superman141 said:
Can I ask where you guys are getting any of this?
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getting what?

Edit: I think I understand now. In one of the recent magazine articles it was revealed that Zod and Faora and company wear helmets/mask to protect themselves from sensory overload....is that what you mean?
 
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Went to my local barnes and noble to pick up the recent empire magazine but they didn't have it :cmad:
 
Man of Steel: The Early years is available for pre-order for $5.69 on Google Play. Think I might buy it
 
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I SEE SPIDEY said:
I like that Goyer brought up Wonder Woman.

I would like a good female led Superhero movie in my lifetime. Get to cracking on that Wonder Woman movie WB!
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in 2013 i am ready for any WW movie. even if its bad. we need the first movie. if its good they prooved that it can be done. if it will be bad then i will get a new WW movie when i am 70. just do one movie.
 
GreenKToo said:
I think it would be the same if we were forced to find a suitable planet for the surviving human population to move too.
Say we find one, but it is very alien looking to us, so we most likely attempt to change it to look more like the earth that we once knew. we would attempt to plant trees and grasses like we had on earth, and we would also place animal life on it that we once had on earth. Of this I have no doubt. It's our nature.

If an alien species landed here wanting to terraform earth, I dont think they would think any more of us than we would ants that were in our way during a picnic.
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i agree. very good.
i see huge potential here for a superman movie. but it has to be explored. i hope we get at least 10 minutes with this part of the story. Kal-el and Zod.
 
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Back to the issue of Krypton's destruction and Zod's motivations - based on the new Empire article, does anyone wonder if Jor-El's ethics or plans for Earth are not as different from Zod's as we may think. It was mentioned that Jor-El's motives for sending Kal-El to Earth are not as noble as we might think and that propagation of the species has a strong bearing on his decision. A good number of people here have complained about the possible destiny/messiah angle being retreaded in Man of Steel based on Jor-El's speech about Kal-El and the people of Earth. I wonder if Man of Steel might portray that attitude of superiority in a negative or at least morally dubious light given the hints about Jor-El's motives. That Jor-El, despite his comparative wisdom to the rest of Krypton, is equally superior and thinks that Kal-El ought to lead Earth to become a New Krypton, a better one. What if Jor-El's well-meaning but patronizing attitude towards the people of Earth is partially rejected by Clark.

I think perhaps Clark becomes Superman by balancing Jor-El's confidence/arrogance and Pa Kent's fear/humility. Clark refuses to impose himself on Earth as a god or leader as Jor-El would have wanted, but he also refuses to hide in the shadows like Pa Kent might have preferred. Rather, instead of accepting either father's distrustful opinion of humanity (Jor-El distrusting their ability to advance on their own and Jonathan distrusting their ability to accept that what is different), perhaps Clark is alone in accepting an optimistic opinion of humanity. Perhaps his travels have taught him about the innate goodness of human beings although it takes Clark a while to realize it.
 
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Back to the issue of Krypton's destruction and Zod's motivations - based on the new Empire article, does anyone wonder if Jor-El's ethics or plans for Earth are not as different from Zod's as we may think. It was mentioned that Jor-El's motives for sending Kal-El to Earth are not as noble as we might think and that propagation of the species has a strong bearing on his decision. A good number of people here have complained about the possible destiny/messiah angle being retreaded in Man of Steel based on Jor-El's speech about Kal-El and the people of Earth. I wonder if Man of Steel might portray that attitude of superiority in a negative or at least morally dubious light given the hints about Jor-El's motives. That Jor-El, despite his comparative wisdom to the rest of Krypton, is equally superior and thinks that Kal-El ought to lead Earth to become a New Krypton, a better one. What if Jor-El's well-meaning but patronizing attitude towards the people of Earth is partially rejected by Clark.

I think perhaps Clark becomes Superman by balancing Jor-El's confidence/arrogance and Pa Kent's fear/humility. Clark refuses to impose himself on Earth as a god or leader as Jor-El would have wanted, but he also refuses to hide in the shadows like Pa Kent might have preferred. Rather, instead of accepting either father's distrustful opinion of humanity (Jor-El distrusting their ability to advance on their own and Jonathan distrusting their ability to accept that what is different), perhaps Clark is alone in accepting an optimistic opinion of humanity. Perhaps his travels have taught him about the innate goodness of human beings although it takes Clark a while to realize it.
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This is a fantastic post!

Very well said. It's what's actually made me come around to the fact of this whole Jor-El choosing Kal-Els destiny on Earth. It's going to be Clark who by growing up and understanding humanity, does he struggle with the moral and ethical hurdles of outing himself as a god. But Zod will give him a noble reason for appearing as Superman anyway.

As for the somewhat dubious intentions of Jor-El, I think the trailer shows that love and compassion and for his son to live, is what is powering his decision for sending away Kal. And even if he is somewhat dismissive of how reckless and unfair it is to Earth to impose a god on them, I think Russell Crowe really sells it. 'They'll kill him' and that confident, even if a bit arrogant 'How?' is perfect delivery. He's thought this through. The people of Earth won't be able to touch him. You have to remember too that his entire planet is exploding. This is his way of standing up against the wave of inevitability of death. He is sending his son away to live as a god, and for the best of Krypton to live on in him.
 
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