All Things Superman: An Open Discussion - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Part 60

[C. Lee]

Nice bit of look back, just to compare with the one that we're getting with MOS:

I actually have this book, it's somewhere in the storage in my old house.

I have that too....but mine has several autographs in it I've collected over the years....

 

[Dark Sentinel]

The lack of Jimmy support saddens me.

Hey, in a perfect world I'd rather have Jimmy over Jenny, but as it stands as long as Jenny works well for the story they're telling, I can live with it.


But I still prefer Jimmy

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I thought that Iron Man 3 had some of the best action scenes I've seen in a film and in no way looked like a T.V show.

 

[Dark Sentinel]

C. Lee, you should change your User Title to "The Great Old One" t:

You're our Cthulhu

 

[747]

Hey, in a perfect world I'd rather have Jimmy over Jenny, but as it stands as long as Jenny works well for the story they're telling, I can live with it.


But I still prefer Jimmy

 

[Dark Sentinel]

I thought that Iron Man 3 had some of the best action scenes I've seen in a film and in no way looked like a T.V show.

Meh, IM3 was alright action-wise. Black kinda ruined those scenes by throwing in unnecessary comedy bits. Took me out of it a bit.

 

[Dark Sentinel]

I mean, aside from Martha, Lois and (I guess ) Lana, there's not a whole lot of girl power in Superman. Jenny could probably play really well off of Lois. I can see it working well if Jenny looks up to Lois in a way, and Lois is just giving her a hard time so she understands the downside of the business.

 

[Sharkboy]

Meh, IM3 was alright action-wise. Black kinda ruined those scenes by throwing in unnecessary comedy bits. Took me out of it a bit.

Black's been doing that for years Senty, I'm actually a huge fan of his work and style so that flip flop between action/tension and comedy was right up my alley fortunately.

 

[Tacit Ronin]

This is true for the most. The only ones that don't really qualify are IM2 Cap and Thor, though they even have their moments.

Thor definitely qualifies. Those scenes in New Mexico, blargh...

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Meh, IM3 was alright action-wise. Black kinda ruined those scenes by throwing in unnecessary comedy bits. Took me out of it a bit.

I didn't say it didn't have too much comedy because it did but I'd take those action scenes any day of the week over the ones in Green Lantern and a series that I'm not going to bring up by name because a huge part of it's fanbase are zealots.

 

[moviefreak]

I have that too....but mine has several autographs in it I've collected over the years....

Well yours is indeed more valuable! Mine don't have any autograph...I only collect autograph from sport men/women.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Thor definitely qualifies. Those scenes in New Mexico, blargh...

You are right. The night stuff is ok, but the broad daylight stuff is not pretty. While the Asgard stuff looks stagey, it has great color timing that saves it.

 

[Tacit Ronin]

You are right. The night stuff is ok, but the broad daylight stuff is not pretty. While the Asgard stuff looks stagey, it has great color timing that saves it.

It had a lot of teal though. So eh....

 

[DKDetective]

Yeah, I'm not the biggest fan of Jimmy being changed to Jenny. My favourite interpretation of Jimmy is as Clark/Superman's one true real friend. I'm not saying that a heterosexual man can't have a meaningful platonic friendship with a heterosexual woman, but Hollywood never seems to allow that to happen. Chloe from Smallville is the perfect example of that. They never let her and Clark truly be platonic friends. She started off having a crush on him and being friend-zoned by his love for Lana and they messed around with the idea of them together a little bit. I just feel like there is a better chance of them not screwing up the Jimmy-Clark relationship if they just left him a heterosexual man. There would be less of temptation for the writers to add in something romantic between Jenny and Clark or something in a sequel for unnecessary romantic drama.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

It had a lot of teal though. So eh....

I guess I am a teal guy.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

So how about that Superman movie guys? It sure looks neato. It has the space ships, action, explosions and flying and junk.

 

[Kal-El.9859]

So how about that Superman movie guys? It sure looks neato. It has the space ships, action, explosions and flying and junk.

nah that looks lame

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

nah that looks lame

Superman is kinda boring afterall. He is too powerful and too perfect so you are probably right. Lame.

 

[Dark Sentinel]

I didn't say it didn't have too much comedy because it did but I'd take those action scenes any day of the week over the ones in Green Lantern and a series that I'm not going to bring up by name because a huge part of it's fanbase are zealots.

11th Commandment: Thou shalt not besmirch the name of Nolan.

 

[TheNextNolan22]

So how about that Superman movie guys? It sure looks neato. It has the space ships, action, explosions and flying and junk.

Looks blah. Everything I've seen so far, I'd give the hype level 4/10 at best.

 

[DKDetective]

I mean, aside from Martha, Lois and (I guess ) Lana, there's not a whole lot of girl power in Superman. Jenny could probably play really well off of Lois. I can see it working well if Jenny looks up to Lois in a way, and Lois is just giving her a hard time so she understands the downside of the business.

That is the thing though, it takes away from Jimmy's relationship to Clark if you make Jenny a more Lois-centric character. Also, if this film is about Clark/Superman finally finding a home/acceptance, then the idea of him finally finding a true friend in Jimmy is especially meaningful. I mean Clark doesn't seem to have fit in as a child. The Junior Novel really underlines that fact and even Pete Ross has been re-imagined as one of his bullies. I know Clark will be finding larger acceptance as Superman, but I really like the idea of him finding acceptance at the Planet. It is a great way to show the theme of modern cities being big, diverse communities where everyone has a place and a group of people who are like them. They might pull that off with Jenny, but as I mentioned in my post above, I have little faith in Hollywood being able to handle platonic male-female relationships successfully.

Moreover, it is probably more empowering for Lois if Jimmy/Jenny looks up to her and is a man. It means that Lois is not just a role model for other women but that she has transcended gender boundaries and is a role model for all aspiring journalists.

Oh well. As long as they do a job with the relationships, I'll be happy. I just think it could have been better the other way around.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Looks blah. Everything I've seen so far, I'd give the hype level 4/10 at best.

It's going to bomb. 100mil total, tops.

 

[hopefuldreamer]

Looks blah. Everything I've seen so far, I'd give the hype level 4/10 at best.

I agree.

I mean, he doesn't even have a kid in this one! And what's a Superman movie without a Lex Luthor plot involving land?

 

[DarthSkywalker]

The Clark and Lois relationship is already going to be very different with Lois knowing his identity early on. Perhaps that is where Jenny can come in.

 

[Dark Sentinel]

That is the thing though, it takes away from Jimmy's relationship to Clark if you make Jenny a more Lois-centric character. Also, if this film is about Clark/Superman finally finding a home/acceptance, then the idea of him finally finding a true friend in Jimmy is especially meaningful. I mean Clark does seem to have fit in as a child. The Junior Novel really underlines that fact and even Pete Ross has been re-imagined as one of his bullies.They might pull that off with Jenny, but as I mentioned in my post above, I have little faith in Hollywood being able to handle platonic male-female relationships successfully.

Moreover, it is probably more empowering for Lois if Jimmy/Jenny looks up to her and is a man. It means that Lois is not just a role model for other women but that she has transcended gender boundaries and is a role model for all aspiring journalists.

Oh well. As long as they do a job with the relationships, I'll be happy. I just think it could have been better the other way around.

I can see all your points. Very well thought-out. I'm fine with it either way but all the same I'm just hoping for a good, quality film.