All Things Superman: An Open Discussion - - - - - - Part 71

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I must say I'm disappointed with that. Oh well, at least I won't be surprised if a JL announcement isn't made during comic con. At this point, I don't care if it's JL, WF, or MOS2. Just give us something along those lines for 2015, WB.
 
I wish dc had a few more movies in the lineup. Man of steel is this year. And then nothing for at least 2 years. If they even have anything in 2015. That's ridiculous
 
Snyder and I are literally on the same wavelength. :up:

Snyder does seem to have the right feeling on how to go about the process.

It's amazing to see a company worth billions of dollars so fixated on 'getting theirs' as soon as possible, instead of maximizing the potential profits by taking things one step at a time. I'm sure they're worried about comic movies being at their apex right now, but I say screw that ... Batman broke the opening weekend record like 3 times in the 80's/90's. Spider-Man made 400+ in 2002 ... TDK made 533 in 2008, The Avengers 623 in 2012. It's not like this type of film is going to die in popularity. History shows it survives, because there is always young kids and teens who will flock to these if they look good.

Do Man of Steel 2 (or if you have to, do World's Finest) ... then branch out to other characters and bring them together 6 or 7 years down the road in Justice League. I know it's longer than the 4 year period from Iron Man to Avengers, but it's necessary IMO because a well thought out JLA with Batman, Superman, Wonder Woman, Flash, etc ... can be more popular than the Avengers team. The key word is CAN.
 
I totally agree with Snyder's thoughts but I don't think he has a say. There will be a JL or WF movie in 2015 if that's what WB wants IMO.
 
What snyder wants and what the suits want don't necessarily mean the same thing. What's worse is that those suits see most things in windows of opportunities. It's why so many of those Disney and Dreamworks films overlapped(starting with those ants and fish movies).

Superheros are in now, but even more lucrative is these ensemble pictures. WB probably want's to sell JLA as another Avengers while the "ensemble" is a hot topic. Long story short, they want in and they want in now is what I would think.

I'm just glad Nolan is around, he keeps those guys on a leash and champions the story first approach. Pretty sure MoS will happen before JLA if Nolan deems it necessary.

On a side note, anyone still think MOS is going to have an opening weekend under 100mill?
 
WB, if you're reading this. Zack doesn't want to rush the League, the fans don't want you to rush the League, let's get at least two or more solid stand-alone Superman flicks out of the way, followed by at least ONE origin story outside the big 2. Honestly, compare his enthusiasm on JL vs World's Finest. Clearly, he'd rather do the latter. He even added a Wayne reference to the backdrop. Since he's already gonna be involved with Bruce Timm for a one-off animated tribute, how about letting Timm and Zack join alliances for the ultimate superhero buddy movie?

The prospect of a properly done Batman/Superman movie.
*drool*:hrt:
 
If MoS is a hit(rather, when it's a hit).
I hope WB/DC show up to Comic Con and start making big fat announcements. And with each announcement, the announcer should point his finger into the air and fire.
 
Been telling you guys it would be a Superman sequel before Justice League and by 2015. For quite some time. It's only been staring you in the face the whole time.
 
Been telling you guys it would be a Superman sequel before Justice League and by 2015. For quite some time. It's only been staring you in the face the whole time.
So where does it go ... July a week after Pirates V (revenge for Superman Returns) ... or Christmas time?

Figure Avengers or Star Wars has May for sure.
 
I follow .. spoiler regarding the easter egg
BatmanNews
on twitter and those guys posted the easter egg SPOILER as their headline in a tweet...... they've since deleted it but what the f man!! That's a major spoiler only to be seen by people who want to know, not to post on your twitter for over 30k plus innocent fans to read
 
What snyder wants and what the suits want don't necessarily mean the same thing. What's worse is that those suits see most things in windows of opportunities. It's why so many of those Disney and Dreamworks films overlapped(starting with those ants and fish movies).

Superheros are in now, but even more lucrative is these ensemble pictures. WB probably want's to sell JLA as another Avengers while the "ensemble" is a hot topic. Long story short, they want in and they want in now is what I would think.

I'm just glad Nolan is around, he keeps those guys on a leash and champions the story first approach. Pretty sure MoS will happen before JLA if Nolan deems it necessary.

On a side note, anyone still think MOS is going to have an opening weekend under 100mill?

I do. :o
 
Well this is some interesting development in terms of the spoiler from Collider, we're going to keep asking ourselves this question for as long as we live:

Is this a sign that we're getting a new Batman, or is Snyder connecting Nolan's Batman to this universe?
 
I personally could care less when a JL film hits. It if it ever does. Dont get me wrong. I like most of the characters, Supes, Bats, WW, GL, and Flash to name a few, but honestly the only stories I really get invested in are the big 2 sorry WW:( I could be down for the Flash cause I think that would be simple to make work. And if you wanna throw some physics in there about how his super speed causes all sorts of damage go for it! GL could have and should have been great. I can sit and watch that cartoon series with my kids and have a blast. However, the moment that GL basically tanked, JL got slid back a number of years IMHO. Granted WB is probably never going to listen to anything I have to say, but if you wanna blow people away with JL you have to do it correctly. The regular everyday people who make up the majority of the box office take have to be invested in the characters or at least have an idea about them to fork over 10 and 20 bucks to go see a flick. The people like my wife who rolls her eyes at me everyday because I mention something about MOS. Does she want to see it. Sure she does. But does she have the same drive to watch all the spots and trailers and come on here and post and read what you guys are saying? Nope cause she is too busy playing Everquest!!
 
So where does it go ... July a week after Pirates V (revenge for Superman Returns) ... or Christmas time?

Figure Avengers or Star Wars has May for sure.

2016. Could do a double shot and do the Batman reboot for the same year as well.
 
Look, the WB big wigs want JL. That is the impulsive decision. They are business men, and what is the point of business? To make money. With that said I honestly think that once they look long and hard at things, JL is the answer to Avengers, but in the long run, it'll play out better if they wait on that and build a world where JL can exist. In the long run it will ultimately be more successful to nurture and build this franchise. if they don't and go with the impulse decision, and it fails, say goodbye to everything.
 
No movie will ever be universally loved, because no movie is perfect. Every movie, no matter how good, has problems. And depending on the viewer and their life experiences/POV those problems can either be gigantic and ruin the movie, or minuscule and easily ignored/forgotten.

Note: The above statement does not apply to The Iron Giant, which is a perfect movie. If you have problems with The Iron Giant, you either have no soul, or your soul is malfunctioning and should be returned.
I LOVE The Iron Giant.
My soul is safe!
 
I'm a big fan of a Robert J Sawyer novel called Mindscan, which describes a future where humans have managed to create artifical replicas of the human brain in robot bodies. Bear with me....

When people are nearing death, they can make a complete copy of their brain (down to every last neuron) within the confines of the artificial one. It doesn't transfer their consciousness as such - but creates a new copy, which has all the memories, thoughts and feelings of the old one. That person then goes off to die, whilst the 'new' version of them lives on - perhaps infinitely. And from the perspective of the new one, it believes it is the original - perhaps in a different form, but it has every memory and all the same characteristics and such.

I've a feeling that the virtual Jor-El AI may be similar to this. The original Jor-El will die on Krypton, but before he does he may create a copy of his mind, for want of a better expression. Rather than hosting it in a new physical body however, it will materialise as a hologram. And by having all the traits of his original mind, it will be able to answer anything that Jor-El knows (up until the point he copied his mind, at which point this new version began carving its own future) and will also retain all his thoughts, feelings and emotions towards his son.

On Earth, we take videos, photos and blogs to keep a history of our lives. Kryptonians are significantly more advanced than us (25,000 years of space travel behind them) so their method of recording their history may be a lot more complex :)
Intruiging notion.
 
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Man of Steel Props and Costumes: Fantastic exhibition with props and costumes used in the movie inside Stage 23, at the Warner Bros. Studios in Burbank. [x]
 
is collider really the only site that has posted any of their interviews??
 
Well this is some interesting development in terms of the spoiler from Collider, we're going to keep asking ourselves this question for as long as we live:

Is this a sign that we're getting a new Batman, or is Snyder connecting Nolan's Batman to this universe?

I seriously hope we get a new Batman. Nolan's is my favorite trilogy, but it's over. It's time for a new vision.
 
The cost of being Clark Kent
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Been telling you guys it would be a Superman sequel before Justice League and by 2015. For quite some time. It's only been staring you in the face the whole time.

Well I don't think it takes rocket science to figure that glimpse of the bleedin' obvious out. Lol! Just the abbreviated timeline alone makes It more likely that MOS2 would be up next on WB roster. Afaic JL can wait. WB should do a Flash movie after MOS2.
 
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