All Things Superman: An Open Discussion - Part 8

[hopefuldreamer]

Honestly I think the thing that'll prove hardest in making a live action JL movie, is casting Superman.

Henry Cavill is a great catch for MOS. Someone with a bit of acting experience, and name that is not completely unknown, and a look that's straight out of the comic books.

But I can't see who they'd find to fill those shoes in a JL movie.

Casting characters like Flash, Wonder Woman, Green Lantern and even Batman is so much easier. But their leader, the man at the centre of the Justice League... Well he's gotta be the tallest, he's gotta be the biggest and he's gotta hold the most screen charisma...

That's a pretty tall order IMO.

 

[Rust]

Well, since MOS is happening in a different universe than Nolan's Batman and Green Lantern didnt really make an impact they could write off those references. But if MOS does really well and Cavill simply IS the new Superman I see no immediate problem with casting everybody around him according to the Snyder universe. That could work I guess. Maybe they're aiming this approach to correspond with the Batman-reboot as well.

 

[hopefuldreamer]

Well they've said they aren't...

But I guess we'll see what happens

I personally can't see why they wouldn't use HC's Supes for a JL movie if they plan on doing one at any point in the next 10 years... It just doesn't make sense to me.

 

[Herolee10]

Agreed with everything else mentioned.

Plus, even though Nolan's franchise is coming to an end, I honestly don't think it's a good idea for Warner Bros. to hit the reboot button so soon after it concludes. I'd say, give the GA and fans some time to soak in the franchise. I mean, unlike the quick reboot with The Amazing Spiderman from Spiderman 3; IF TDKR turns out to be both a big critical and financial success, then I don't think that'd help it make things easier for everyone to take in a new batman so soon after that.

Plus, then there's always the issue of, when building other films to the BIG Ensemble film, there's always the chance that one of those films will flop or not meet expectations, thus leaving a dent in the road, especially if it's a film regarding one of the major characters for the JL roaster. Heck, Imagine if Ryan Reynold's GL was set to be a part of a shared universe with its disaster.

 

[Rust]

There's no way of knowing where WD/DC's heading regarding a JL-ensemble, but the plan to reboot Batman so soon could indicate that they're striving for something coherent down the line. Focusing on other JS-members, like Flash and WW might make more sense though, but I guess they're looking at them too.

I just sincerely hope that we'll get something completely different from The Avengers, in both storytelling and tone. IMO WB/DC has always been the more darker than Marvel, except maybe the good X-Men-movies and Lee's HULK.

 

[hopefuldreamer]

I just sincerely hope that we'll get something completely different from The Avengers, in both storytelling and tone. IMO WB/DC has always been the more darker than Marvel, except maybe the good X-Men-movies and Lee's HULK.

I can't imagine we wouldn't.

A friend of mine pointed out something I hadn't really thought about the other day.

He loves X-men and he said he doesn't really get Avengers cause none of them have any actual 'powers' other than strength or weapons.

And I guess he's right. They are all basically just people with enhances strength or awesome weapons.

He said he preferred the sound of the Justice League because there is more of a variation of powers.

Also, their headquarters is in space

So whatever happens, the tone CAN'T be as 'real world' as Avengers. It shouldn't even be trying to be. There are more fantastic elements to the JL than The Avengers IMO.

 

[Herolee10]

I can't imagine we wouldn't.

A friend of mine pointed out something I hadn't really thought about the other day.

He loves X-men and he said he doesn't really get Avengers cause none of them have any actual 'powers' other than strength or weapons.

And I guess he's right. They are all basically just people with enhances strength or awesome weapons.

He said he preferred the sound of the Justice League because there is more of a variation of powers.

Also, their headquarters is in space

So whatever happens, the tone CAN'T be as 'real world' as Avengers. It shouldn't even be trying to be. There are more fantastic elements to the JL than The Avengers IMO.

Indeed; heck, then there's also on how many fans have been dying to see a serious and beloved live action version of Superman and Batman finally cross paths with each other on the big screen (or in any format). These two are literally the pillars of the DC Universe and to say that their meeting together would be historic would be a understatement.lol Like Perry White said in S:TM, there hasn't been a bigger confrontation since...God talk to Moses.lol

The funny thing also is that DC could use a character that's similar to Nick Fury when it comes to being someone that's shown as the person who knows a lot of things and has high authority, along with being able to appear in any other solo film. I'm talking about Amanda Waller.lol Both she and Fury are tied to secret organizations in their respective universes, both of them have morally gray areas, and hell, both of them are African Americans.lol

In any case, before we could even dream of this, DC and Warner Bros. would really need to hire someone who could lay down the ground plan like how Feige did with Marvel Studios.

 

[hopefuldreamer]

Indeed; heck, then there's also on how many fans have been dying to see a serious and beloved live action version of Superman and Batman finally cross paths with each other on the big screen (or in any format). These two are literally the pillars of the DC Universe and to say that their meeting together would be historic would be a understatement.lol Like Perry White said in S:TM, there hasn't been a bigger confrontation since...God talk to Moses.lol

Agreed. I mean, no one gets all that excited when I say they have put Iron Man, Hulk, Thor and Cap together in a movie.

But if I said they were putting Batman and Superman together in a movie, there would be more of a reaction.

I'm not saying it'd all be positive. A lot of the people I know would probably be like 'What? How does that work' because they haven't seen a world in which they can co exist. But it's still get people more curious.

The funny thing also is that DC could use a character that's similar to Nick Fury when it comes to being someone that's shown as the person who knows a lot of things and has high authority, along with being able to appear in any other solo film. I'm talking about Amanda Waller.lol Both she and Fury are tied to secret organizations in their respective universes, both of them have morally gray areas, and hell, both of them are African Americans.lol

In any case, before we could even dream of this, DC and Warner Bros. would really need to hire someone who could lay down the ground plan like how Feige did with Marvel Studios.

I'd prefer it if they didn't use Waller personally. I think it's better that they come together on their own, not have them be 'hired' by an organisation to save the world.

The JL are very different to that.

 

[Herolee10]

I'd prefer it if they didn't use Waller personally. I think it's better that they come together on their own, not have them be 'hired' by an organisation to save the world.

The JL are very different to that.

No doubt about that. If anything, i could see Superman being positioned as the leader of the group, with Bruce being the one to provide funds in order for them to function in a high level base on their own without interference from the government and whatnot.

 

[hopefuldreamer]

No doubt about that. If anything, i could see Superman being positioned as the leader of the group, with Bruce being the one to provide funds in order for them to function in a high level base on their own without interference from the government and whatnot.

Exactly

I mean, I don't mind how they come together. Whether it's sort of accidentally like the new 52 run where they just run into each other fighting some particularly persistant villain; or whether one of them actively looks to get in touch with other heroes and suggest working together.

Just as long as it's the JL's agenda, and not any human organisation.

 

[Micromind]

Amanda Waller does not form Justice League, it's core members are the founders of JL, Waller basically keeps a watch over all super powered heroes and villains, as a head of agency (DOE).

 

[BigThor]

Agreed. I mean, no one gets all that excited when I say they have put Iron Man, Hulk, Thor and Cap together in a movie.

But if I said they were putting Batman and Superman together in a movie, there would be more of a reaction.

Yep, that's because Batman and Supes have recieved much more mainstream exposure than any other superheroes except for Spidey.

 

[Greeneyes]

Can anyone tell me why Man of Steel is not being filmed in IMAX like Batman,or RedEpic for Spider Man,or 48 frames per second like The Hobbit,IMDB says they are using Panavision Panaflex Millenium XL with 35mm Kodak being used,is this not what might be classed as standard compared to rival films?.

It's not poor quality,but hearing about the other big movies and what they are doing makes me hope there isn't a noticeable difference,and will it hurt the movie at theatres by not having IMAX or 3d options?.

If anyone has any technical knowledge on the pros or cons of what to film with,and what Snyder is using compared to the rest,and why,I would appreciate some ideas.

 

[Rust]

Yeah, I was afraid it was gonna be post-converted 3D which is just cheap and unambitious. Especially for something like this which has a lot of potential in 3D.

 

[Llama_Shepherd]

It's IMdB, relax relax, it's probably inaccurate.

 

[Rust]

But it's not SHOT in 3D, is it? Havent heard about that yet. But it'll most likely be released in "3D".

 

[Llama_Shepherd]

Yeah, most the GA don't really care either way.

 

[Rust]

I care!

 

[Llama_Shepherd]

Dem sounding lyk fytin wordz!!!!

 

[Micromind]

I care!

I don't care.

Edit.

 

[Lily Adler]

I thought it was confirmed Snyder was shooting this in 3D.

 

[Prime]

Nothing was ever confirmed.

 

[hopefuldreamer]

I couldn't give a stuff about 3D personally.

Though I must admit, with all the time they've had because of the change of release date, maybe they will post convert it.

 

[Prime]

Snyder doesn't like 3D. But I think in this case he won't have a choice. Im sure they will convert it to 3D. Not that I care. Never seen a movie in 3D and I don't plan to anytime soon.

 

[Rust]

Post-conversion 3D is pretty crappy. Real 3D has lots of potential. HUGO looked beautiful. Unless MOS is shot in 3D I have no interest either. Which it probably wont be if Snyder dislikes the media.