All Things Wonder Woman: An Open Discussion - - - - - - - - - Part 18

[GothamBat]

I keep hearing this track played, is it her main theme? Will we at least hear it in the movie?

I hope so. It's so good

 

[Bagide]

When WW says "To the war" is that homage to when Adam West saying "To the Batmobile"? Or I'm reaching?

 

[moviefreak]

I hope we spend a good amount of time in Themyscira. From what we've seen it looks beautifully rendered and I'd like to get a good feel for Diana's world before she's plunged into ours.

Wonder Woman's run time is about the same as MOS and about 5 mins longer than Superman (1978). MOS spent exactly 20 mins on Krypton portion before the time jump to the fishing boat in the present day. Superman (1978) spent about 17 mins (excluding 5 mins of opening credit) on Krypton before the jump to the Kents driving through Smallville. I'm sure that 15 to 20 mins being devoted to Themyscira is more than sufficient especially when you're watching it for the first time. The Krypton sequences in both Superman films felt quit long on first viewing, the 1978 film was especially long and we didn't get to see Superman until about 45 mins in (and everyone in the theatre cheered loudly lol)

 

[Joeyjojo72]

This is the SUPERHEROHYPE.....that's what's done here.

Hello...

 

[kguillou]

Wonder Woman's run time is about the same as MOS and about 5 mins longer than Superman (1978). MOS spent exactly 20 mins on Krypton portion before the time jump to the fishing boat in the present day. Superman (1978) spent about 17 mins (excluding 5 mins of opening credit) on Krypton before the jump to the Kents driving through Smallville. I'm sure that 15 to 20 mins being devoted to Themyscira is more than sufficient especially when you're watching it for the first time. The Krypton sequences in both Superman films felt quit long on first viewing, the 1978 film was especially long and we didn't get to see Superman until about 45 mins in (and everyone in the theatre cheered loudly lol)

MoS' Krypton sequence was 20 mins? Damn. Felt so much shorter. Maybe its because so much happened in that time. I think I would like a LITTLE more time than that but again I guess it all depends how the time's used.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

I keep hearing this track played, is it her main theme? Will we at least hear it in the movie?

Don't we know her main theme? It was in BvS and used all over the trailers.

 

[Greenlite]

I thought MOS prologue was around 15min, but anyway, I think WW's hometown will be about 20-25min, a bit longer, because it'll include baby Diana, teen Diana, adult Diana and their encounter with Steve/German army and the aftermath.

Unless they are doing flashbacks like MOS, and the Amazon character stuff are chopped to pieces like Joker/Harley's scenes

 

[moviefreak]

I thought MOS prologue was around 15min, but anyway, I think WW's hometown will be about 20-25min, a bit longer, because it'll include baby Diana, teen Diana, adult Diana and their encounter with Steve/German army and the aftermath.

Unless they are doing flashbacks like MOS, and the Amazon character stuff are chopped to pieces like Joker/Harley's scenes

Well MOS's was just shade about 19 mins plus 1 mins opening credit. Superman '78 Krypton sequence was only about 17 mins plus 5 mins opening credit, yet it felt longer principally because it was dialogue heavy while MOS's sequence was action heavy.

I don't think that they'll be spending too much time on the two young Diana, probably a few mins at most while the rest will be Gadot's Diana right up to Steve Trevor crash landing.

 

[Broseph44]

I am.....just today I have banned a poster, infracted 4 others and deleted about 100 stupid useless posts.....

Curious C. Lee but are you excited for the film? I don't think I've ever really heard your stance on the DCEU. Just wondering.

 

[AnneFan]

Keep calm and eat chicken wings.

 

[Broseph44]

Keep calm and eat chicken wings.

I'm always down for chicken/buffalo wings. Extra blue cheese please. And carrots, no celery for me.

 

[AnneFan]

I'm always down for chicken/buffalo wings. Extra blue cheese please.

They're wonderful. I like popcorn, don't get me wrong, but if cinemas sold this cuisine...

 

[Vlyse]

Don't we know her main theme? It was in BvS and used all over the trailers.

Yeah that one doesn't work for this movie. She needs a more heroic theme for her origin, like MOS's for Superman... not the electric cello. Completely wrong tone.

 

[AnneFan]

It's already on the record that the main theme will be tailored to different phases of the film. I wouldn't be surprised if the main theme we hear from BvS is played at the end/end credits, if it cuts back to the modern day.

 

[Guts]

Description of Joss Whedon's Wonder Woman script.

Spoiler

The movie would've taken place in modern day

Or at least more modern than the Patty Jenkins version coming out this summer. There's nothing too significant about this, but just keep the setting in mind as you continue reading. This is a world with cell phones, laptops, and other modern technology

The movie would've started on Steve Trevor

The movie still would've been called "Wonder Woman" and focused on Diana of course, but it wouldn't be the black-haired heroine or indeed any Amazon that we first see. Instead, the opening moments would have been dedicated to introducing Steve Trevor and his crash landing on Themyscira while in the midst of transporting supplies to refugees.

Hippolyta and Diana would not have gotten along

To be fair, Diana and her mother Hippolyta, Queen of the Amazons, might not get along in the Wonder Woman we'll get to see next month. But what little we have seen in trailers at least makes Hippolyta come across as loving and concerned. In Whedon's version, the two butt heads fairly frequently and loudly. They even have trial by combat to see who gets to decide Trevor's fate.

Diana's gal pal would've been really curious about penises

There's no other way to put it. When Trevor is first found (and captured) by the Amazons, Diana's friend Aethra is enraptured. She rushes up to Diana and whispers something the audience can't hear, causing Diana's face to turn to shock. Aethra then says, audibly, "Well I would have." Later, after Diana has interrogated Trevor in his holding cell, Aethra says, "Tell me you at least looked at it." It's not hard to get what Aethra's going for here

Diana's first experience with the outside world would also be her first time getting shot

We've seen in the trailers a look of confusion and wonder (no pun intended) when a bullet whizzes by Diana in slow motion. It's clear she's never seen modern weaponry before. Ditto for Whedon's version, though in that script, Diana takes a bullet to the chest when she challenges a warlord for control of the aforementioned refugee supplies. It doesn't kill her, but it does cause her to black out for several hours.

It would've had different villains

Even though he hasn't been seen in full view, it's an open secret that the main villain in Wonder Woman will be Ares, god of war. In Whedon's treatment, it's Strife, god of chaos, who causes problems for Diana. Whedon describes him as having a white, disfigured face with red teeth and a carved metal skull-cap. He also has a nasty, dragon-like pet that eats people. So, not a good guy.

Strife is also tied to Spearhead Technologies, your standard evil mega-corporation. They deal in military tech, using corrupt officials to lay the groundwork for their misdeeds. They spread propaganda and the CEO outwardly expresses a desire for world domination. They also spy on the world and have a bunch of employees who work in a secret lair and wear all black. Their presence is... not subtle. Oh, and they've got a giant machine monster in their basement.

Diana would've lost her first (and second) fight

It's a pretty well-worn trope by now that the hero must first encounter the big bad, lose to them, regroup, learn a valuable lesson about humanity, or inner strength, or courage, or the importance of teamwork, etc, and then come back and beat the villain later. In Whedon's script, Diana has a battle with Strife in the midst of a collapsing building, which eventually crumbles down on top of her. She recovers, but she clearly did not win the fight. She meets up with Strife again later, and loses that battle as well (but more on that in a bit).

There would've been a *very* bad pun

While trying to slip inside a club, Diana and Trevor come up against a particularly grumpy bouncer. He says they're not getting in, and the camera cuts to a few moments later, with Diana and Trevor inside. She says, "I don't get it. He didn't bounce." *cue groans*

Diana would've gotten her dance on

Once our heroes are inside the aforementioned club, Diana struts her stuff. The dance is described as "sensual, ethereal, and wicked sexy. This is not a warrior march; though it remains idiosyncratic, it is neither out of place nor unnoticed on the dance floor." It might seem silly, but the idea is to get the attention of Bacchus, the god of wine and revelry, who runs the club. And it works.

Trevor would've dropped the F-bomb on Diana

In a rather heated exchange about the nature of heroism, Trevor argues that Diana isn't a hero because a hero can't choose to be a hero. Because she can go back to paradise at any time, Trevor calls Diana a "****ing tourist." Ouch.

Diana would've lost her powers

In their second face-off, Diana and Strife come to a standstill. Strife takes Trevor captive and says the only thing that will save him is if Diana submits. She volunteers to become chained and powerless, and Strife teleports her to a rainforest. He leaves her there (presumably to die), and we see her for the first time struggle. She's weak, disheveled, hungry, and injured. She gets captured by some drug cartel types and only when she realizes her mother has been watching over her does she find the courage to fight back. She breaks free of her captors and pulls apart the chains binding her.

We would've seen (or... uh, *not* seen) the invisible jet

It's one of Wonder Woman's tackiest, silliest pieces of history, but yes, the invisible jet would've made a (non-)appearance in Whedon's version of Wonder Woman. After breaking free of the drug cartel, reclaiming her identity, and freeing other hostages, Diana is led to a hilltop where the invisible jet awaits. It's written to be funny, with everyone but Diana not understanding what's going on.

Trevor's big plan to save the day is... YouTube? Intense collateral damage? It's not super clear.

So Strife is working with Spearhead to destroy the fictional city of Gateway for... reasons. Nobody knows about this of course, so Trevor decides to bring Strife out of hiding and into the light. He sets a trap so that when the god of chaos arrives, he'll be broadcast for the world to see. "It's called the internet age," Trevor says cockily. "This is going out to the whole world." I wonder how many upvotes it'll get?

Now, one could argue that the real plan is just to frustrate Strife enough that he calls forth the mechanical monster Spearhead has been keeping in their basement. But that's not much better, considering the amount of damage it can (and does) cause.

There would've been a chase scene between our heroes and a mechanical chimera

Speaking of the metal beast: it's called a Khimaera, and while it's technically not an actual monster, it's a piece of machinery that's sure designed like one. It's over 100 feet long, with multiple "heads" used for drilling and demolitions, and a serpentine body. Strife rides the Khimaera as it chases Trevor and his friends through Gateway. Diana shows up in her invisible jet to fight it and deals a fair bit of damage before crashing and taking the fight to ground level.

It would've teased a romance with Trevor, Wonder Woman flying, and a battle with Ares

Once the Khimaera is defeated, Diana and Trevor face off against Strife. Diana tricks him into getting impaled by his own spear, and he dies. Suddenly an image of Ares appears, warning Diana that she has provoked him and his wrath. She strolls away from their conversation, Diana and Trevor kiss, and Diana has one last moment to reflect on her journey. She says an inspirational "I learned something today"-style monologue and then indicates she's going to try "reading the wind." Trevor objects, saying she can't fly. She looks back at him. "Can't?" Blackout. The end.

http://www.gamesradar.com/15-things-joss-whedons-wonder-woman-wouldve-done-and-no-12-is-the-invisible-jet/

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Yeah that one doesn't work for this movie. She needs a more heroic theme for her origin, like MOS's for Superman... not the electric cello. Completely wrong tone.

They will simply do different takes on it.

Curious C. Lee but are you excited for the film? I don't think I've ever really heard your stance on the DCEU. Just wondering.

If I remember correctly, this came up in the Lounge and both Lee and his little one are very happy for the chance to see Wonder Woman on the big screen.

 

[whenforeverisnt]

Description of Joss Whedon's Wonder Woman script.

Spoiler

The movie would've taken place in modern day

Or at least more modern than the Patty Jenkins version coming out this summer. There's nothing too significant about this, but just keep the setting in mind as you continue reading. This is a world with cell phones, laptops, and other modern technology

The movie would've started on Steve Trevor

The movie still would've been called "Wonder Woman" and focused on Diana of course, but it wouldn't be the black-haired heroine or indeed any Amazon that we first see. Instead, the opening moments would have been dedicated to introducing Steve Trevor and his crash landing on Themyscira while in the midst of transporting supplies to refugees.

Hippolyta and Diana would not have gotten along

To be fair, Diana and her mother Hippolyta, Queen of the Amazons, might not get along in the Wonder Woman we'll get to see next month. But what little we have seen in trailers at least makes Hippolyta come across as loving and concerned. In Whedon's version, the two butt heads fairly frequently and loudly. They even have trial by combat to see who gets to decide Trevor's fate.

Diana's gal pal would've been really curious about penises

There's no other way to put it. When Trevor is first found (and captured) by the Amazons, Diana's friend Aethra is enraptured. She rushes up to Diana and whispers something the audience can't hear, causing Diana's face to turn to shock. Aethra then says, audibly, "Well I would have." Later, after Diana has interrogated Trevor in his holding cell, Aethra says, "Tell me you at least looked at it." It's not hard to get what Aethra's going for here

Diana's first experience with the outside world would also be her first time getting shot

We've seen in the trailers a look of confusion and wonder (no pun intended) when a bullet whizzes by Diana in slow motion. It's clear she's never seen modern weaponry before. Ditto for Whedon's version, though in that script, Diana takes a bullet to the chest when she challenges a warlord for control of the aforementioned refugee supplies. It doesn't kill her, but it does cause her to black out for several hours.

It would've had different villains

Even though he hasn't been seen in full view, it's an open secret that the main villain in Wonder Woman will be Ares, god of war. In Whedon's treatment, it's Strife, god of chaos, who causes problems for Diana. Whedon describes him as having a white, disfigured face with red teeth and a carved metal skull-cap. He also has a nasty, dragon-like pet that eats people. So, not a good guy.

Strife is also tied to Spearhead Technologies, your standard evil mega-corporation. They deal in military tech, using corrupt officials to lay the groundwork for their misdeeds. They spread propaganda and the CEO outwardly expresses a desire for world domination. They also spy on the world and have a bunch of employees who work in a secret lair and wear all black. Their presence is... not subtle. Oh, and they've got a giant machine monster in their basement.

Diana would've lost her first (and second) fight

It's a pretty well-worn trope by now that the hero must first encounter the big bad, lose to them, regroup, learn a valuable lesson about humanity, or inner strength, or courage, or the importance of teamwork, etc, and then come back and beat the villain later. In Whedon's script, Diana has a battle with Strife in the midst of a collapsing building, which eventually crumbles down on top of her. She recovers, but she clearly did not win the fight. She meets up with Strife again later, and loses that battle as well (but more on that in a bit).

There would've been a *very* bad pun

While trying to slip inside a club, Diana and Trevor come up against a particularly grumpy bouncer. He says they're not getting in, and the camera cuts to a few moments later, with Diana and Trevor inside. She says, "I don't get it. He didn't bounce." *cue groans*

Diana would've gotten her dance on

Once our heroes are inside the aforementioned club, Diana struts her stuff. The dance is described as "sensual, ethereal, and wicked sexy. This is not a warrior march; though it remains idiosyncratic, it is neither out of place nor unnoticed on the dance floor." It might seem silly, but the idea is to get the attention of Bacchus, the god of wine and revelry, who runs the club. And it works.

Trevor would've dropped the F-bomb on Diana

In a rather heated exchange about the nature of heroism, Trevor argues that Diana isn't a hero because a hero can't choose to be a hero. Because she can go back to paradise at any time, Trevor calls Diana a "****ing tourist." Ouch.

Diana would've lost her powers

In their second face-off, Diana and Strife come to a standstill. Strife takes Trevor captive and says the only thing that will save him is if Diana submits. She volunteers to become chained and powerless, and Strife teleports her to a rainforest. He leaves her there (presumably to die), and we see her for the first time struggle. She's weak, disheveled, hungry, and injured. She gets captured by some drug cartel types and only when she realizes her mother has been watching over her does she find the courage to fight back. She breaks free of her captors and pulls apart the chains binding her.

We would've seen (or... uh, *not* seen) the invisible jet

It's one of Wonder Woman's tackiest, silliest pieces of history, but yes, the invisible jet would've made a (non-)appearance in Whedon's version of Wonder Woman. After breaking free of the drug cartel, reclaiming her identity, and freeing other hostages, Diana is led to a hilltop where the invisible jet awaits. It's written to be funny, with everyone but Diana not understanding what's going on.

Trevor's big plan to save the day is... YouTube? Intense collateral damage? It's not super clear.

So Strife is working with Spearhead to destroy the fictional city of Gateway for... reasons. Nobody knows about this of course, so Trevor decides to bring Strife out of hiding and into the light. He sets a trap so that when the god of chaos arrives, he'll be broadcast for the world to see. "It's called the internet age," Trevor says cockily. "This is going out to the whole world." I wonder how many upvotes it'll get?

Now, one could argue that the real plan is just to frustrate Strife enough that he calls forth the mechanical monster Spearhead has been keeping in their basement. But that's not much better, considering the amount of damage it can (and does) cause.

There would've been a chase scene between our heroes and a mechanical chimera

Speaking of the metal beast: it's called a Khimaera, and while it's technically not an actual monster, it's a piece of machinery that's sure designed like one. It's over 100 feet long, with multiple "heads" used for drilling and demolitions, and a serpentine body. Strife rides the Khimaera as it chases Trevor and his friends through Gateway. Diana shows up in her invisible jet to fight it and deals a fair bit of damage before crashing and taking the fight to ground level.

It would've teased a romance with Trevor, Wonder Woman flying, and a battle with Ares

Once the Khimaera is defeated, Diana and Trevor face off against Strife. Diana tricks him into getting impaled by his own spear, and he dies. Suddenly an image of Ares appears, warning Diana that she has provoked him and his wrath. She strolls away from their conversation, Diana and Trevor kiss, and Diana has one last moment to reflect on her journey. She says an inspirational "I learned something today"-style monologue and then indicates she's going to try "reading the wind." Trevor objects, saying she can't fly. She looks back at him. "Can't?" Blackout. The end.

http://www.gamesradar.com/15-things-joss-whedons-wonder-woman-wouldve-done-and-no-12-is-the-invisible-jet/

Spoiler

Once our heroes are inside the aforementioned club, Diana struts her stuff. The dance is described as "sensual, ethereal, and wicked sexy. This is not a warrior march; though it remains idiosyncratic, it is neither out of place nor unnoticed on the dance floor." It might seem silly, but the idea is to get the attention of Bacchus, the god of wine and revelry, who runs the club. And it works.

Trevor would've dropped the F-bomb on Diana

In a rather heated exchange about the nature of heroism, Trevor argues that Diana isn't a hero because a hero can't choose to be a hero. Because she can go back to paradise at any time, Trevor calls Diana a "****ing tourist." Ouch.

And he wonders why it didn't get picked up.

 

[Mz. Hyde]

Description of Joss Whedon's Wonder Woman script.

Spoiler

The movie would've taken place in modern day

Or at least more modern than the Patty Jenkins version coming out this summer. There's nothing too significant about this, but just keep the setting in mind as you continue reading. This is a world with cell phones, laptops, and other modern technology

The movie would've started on Steve Trevor

The movie still would've been called "Wonder Woman" and focused on Diana of course, but it wouldn't be the black-haired heroine or indeed any Amazon that we first see. Instead, the opening moments would have been dedicated to introducing Steve Trevor and his crash landing on Themyscira while in the midst of transporting supplies to refugees.

Hippolyta and Diana would not have gotten along

To be fair, Diana and her mother Hippolyta, Queen of the Amazons, might not get along in the Wonder Woman we'll get to see next month. But what little we have seen in trailers at least makes Hippolyta come across as loving and concerned. In Whedon's version, the two butt heads fairly frequently and loudly. They even have trial by combat to see who gets to decide Trevor's fate.

Diana's gal pal would've been really curious about penises

There's no other way to put it. When Trevor is first found (and captured) by the Amazons, Diana's friend Aethra is enraptured. She rushes up to Diana and whispers something the audience can't hear, causing Diana's face to turn to shock. Aethra then says, audibly, "Well I would have." Later, after Diana has interrogated Trevor in his holding cell, Aethra says, "Tell me you at least looked at it." It's not hard to get what Aethra's going for here

Diana's first experience with the outside world would also be her first time getting shot

We've seen in the trailers a look of confusion and wonder (no pun intended) when a bullet whizzes by Diana in slow motion. It's clear she's never seen modern weaponry before. Ditto for Whedon's version, though in that script, Diana takes a bullet to the chest when she challenges a warlord for control of the aforementioned refugee supplies. It doesn't kill her, but it does cause her to black out for several hours.

It would've had different villains

Even though he hasn't been seen in full view, it's an open secret that the main villain in Wonder Woman will be Ares, god of war. In Whedon's treatment, it's Strife, god of chaos, who causes problems for Diana. Whedon describes him as having a white, disfigured face with red teeth and a carved metal skull-cap. He also has a nasty, dragon-like pet that eats people. So, not a good guy.

Strife is also tied to Spearhead Technologies, your standard evil mega-corporation. They deal in military tech, using corrupt officials to lay the groundwork for their misdeeds. They spread propaganda and the CEO outwardly expresses a desire for world domination. They also spy on the world and have a bunch of employees who work in a secret lair and wear all black. Their presence is... not subtle. Oh, and they've got a giant machine monster in their basement.

Diana would've lost her first (and second) fight

It's a pretty well-worn trope by now that the hero must first encounter the big bad, lose to them, regroup, learn a valuable lesson about humanity, or inner strength, or courage, or the importance of teamwork, etc, and then come back and beat the villain later. In Whedon's script, Diana has a battle with Strife in the midst of a collapsing building, which eventually crumbles down on top of her. She recovers, but she clearly did not win the fight. She meets up with Strife again later, and loses that battle as well (but more on that in a bit).

There would've been a *very* bad pun

While trying to slip inside a club, Diana and Trevor come up against a particularly grumpy bouncer. He says they're not getting in, and the camera cuts to a few moments later, with Diana and Trevor inside. She says, "I don't get it. He didn't bounce." *cue groans*

Diana would've gotten her dance on

Once our heroes are inside the aforementioned club, Diana struts her stuff. The dance is described as "sensual, ethereal, and wicked sexy. This is not a warrior march; though it remains idiosyncratic, it is neither out of place nor unnoticed on the dance floor." It might seem silly, but the idea is to get the attention of Bacchus, the god of wine and revelry, who runs the club. And it works.

Trevor would've dropped the F-bomb on Diana

In a rather heated exchange about the nature of heroism, Trevor argues that Diana isn't a hero because a hero can't choose to be a hero. Because she can go back to paradise at any time, Trevor calls Diana a "****ing tourist." Ouch.

Diana would've lost her powers

In their second face-off, Diana and Strife come to a standstill. Strife takes Trevor captive and says the only thing that will save him is if Diana submits. She volunteers to become chained and powerless, and Strife teleports her to a rainforest. He leaves her there (presumably to die), and we see her for the first time struggle. She's weak, disheveled, hungry, and injured. She gets captured by some drug cartel types and only when she realizes her mother has been watching over her does she find the courage to fight back. She breaks free of her captors and pulls apart the chains binding her.

We would've seen (or... uh, *not* seen) the invisible jet

It's one of Wonder Woman's tackiest, silliest pieces of history, but yes, the invisible jet would've made a (non-)appearance in Whedon's version of Wonder Woman. After breaking free of the drug cartel, reclaiming her identity, and freeing other hostages, Diana is led to a hilltop where the invisible jet awaits. It's written to be funny, with everyone but Diana not understanding what's going on.

Trevor's big plan to save the day is... YouTube? Intense collateral damage? It's not super clear.

So Strife is working with Spearhead to destroy the fictional city of Gateway for... reasons. Nobody knows about this of course, so Trevor decides to bring Strife out of hiding and into the light. He sets a trap so that when the god of chaos arrives, he'll be broadcast for the world to see. "It's called the internet age," Trevor says cockily. "This is going out to the whole world." I wonder how many upvotes it'll get?

Now, one could argue that the real plan is just to frustrate Strife enough that he calls forth the mechanical monster Spearhead has been keeping in their basement. But that's not much better, considering the amount of damage it can (and does) cause.

There would've been a chase scene between our heroes and a mechanical chimera

Speaking of the metal beast: it's called a Khimaera, and while it's technically not an actual monster, it's a piece of machinery that's sure designed like one. It's over 100 feet long, with multiple "heads" used for drilling and demolitions, and a serpentine body. Strife rides the Khimaera as it chases Trevor and his friends through Gateway. Diana shows up in her invisible jet to fight it and deals a fair bit of damage before crashing and taking the fight to ground level.

It would've teased a romance with Trevor, Wonder Woman flying, and a battle with Ares

Once the Khimaera is defeated, Diana and Trevor face off against Strife. Diana tricks him into getting impaled by his own spear, and he dies. Suddenly an image of Ares appears, warning Diana that she has provoked him and his wrath. She strolls away from their conversation, Diana and Trevor kiss, and Diana has one last moment to reflect on her journey. She says an inspirational "I learned something today"-style monologue and then indicates she's going to try "reading the wind." Trevor objects, saying she can't fly. She looks back at him. "Can't?" Blackout. The end.

http://www.gamesradar.com/15-things...-wouldve-done-and-no-12-is-the-invisible-jet/

...I don't like it.

 

[Superherofan123]

That sounds horrible.

 

[brandeezy89]

 

[mclay18]

...I don't like it.

Me too. I'm a big Whedon fan, but not everything the guy does is gold, i.e. Age of Ultron and "Dollhouse."

I think Batgirl will be the DC property he can really weave into gold. His take on WW is a bit too "Buffy"-esque.

 

[Greenlite]

Hong Kong?

My friend just posted a new blog on FB for her new design store, celebrating mother's day, it's an article about her mom.

She wrote "this Mother's Day, we invite you to celebrate your wonder woman"

I have never seen her liking any of my WW or DC posts, nor has she posted anything like that.

So the general public's awareness is rising, and mother's day come at a pretty good time for WB - free marketing, like I don't live in your reality etc etc, but this year there's more use of the word wonder woman than past years, and it just happens there's a freaking WW coming out in 3 weeks

 

[Juan1193]

Description of Joss Whedon's Wonder Woman script.

Spoiler

The movie would've taken place in modern day

Or at least more modern than the Patty Jenkins version coming out this summer. There's nothing too significant about this, but just keep the setting in mind as you continue reading. This is a world with cell phones, laptops, and other modern technology

The movie would've started on Steve Trevor

The movie still would've been called "Wonder Woman" and focused on Diana of course, but it wouldn't be the black-haired heroine or indeed any Amazon that we first see. Instead, the opening moments would have been dedicated to introducing Steve Trevor and his crash landing on Themyscira while in the midst of transporting supplies to refugees.

Hippolyta and Diana would not have gotten along

To be fair, Diana and her mother Hippolyta, Queen of the Amazons, might not get along in the Wonder Woman we'll get to see next month. But what little we have seen in trailers at least makes Hippolyta come across as loving and concerned. In Whedon's version, the two butt heads fairly frequently and loudly. They even have trial by combat to see who gets to decide Trevor's fate.

Diana's gal pal would've been really curious about penises

There's no other way to put it. When Trevor is first found (and captured) by the Amazons, Diana's friend Aethra is enraptured. She rushes up to Diana and whispers something the audience can't hear, causing Diana's face to turn to shock. Aethra then says, audibly, "Well I would have." Later, after Diana has interrogated Trevor in his holding cell, Aethra says, "Tell me you at least looked at it." It's not hard to get what Aethra's going for here

Diana's first experience with the outside world would also be her first time getting shot

We've seen in the trailers a look of confusion and wonder (no pun intended) when a bullet whizzes by Diana in slow motion. It's clear she's never seen modern weaponry before. Ditto for Whedon's version, though in that script, Diana takes a bullet to the chest when she challenges a warlord for control of the aforementioned refugee supplies. It doesn't kill her, but it does cause her to black out for several hours.

It would've had different villains

Even though he hasn't been seen in full view, it's an open secret that the main villain in Wonder Woman will be Ares, god of war. In Whedon's treatment, it's Strife, god of chaos, who causes problems for Diana. Whedon describes him as having a white, disfigured face with red teeth and a carved metal skull-cap. He also has a nasty, dragon-like pet that eats people. So, not a good guy.

Strife is also tied to Spearhead Technologies, your standard evil mega-corporation. They deal in military tech, using corrupt officials to lay the groundwork for their misdeeds. They spread propaganda and the CEO outwardly expresses a desire for world domination. They also spy on the world and have a bunch of employees who work in a secret lair and wear all black. Their presence is... not subtle. Oh, and they've got a giant machine monster in their basement.

Diana would've lost her first (and second) fight

It's a pretty well-worn trope by now that the hero must first encounter the big bad, lose to them, regroup, learn a valuable lesson about humanity, or inner strength, or courage, or the importance of teamwork, etc, and then come back and beat the villain later. In Whedon's script, Diana has a battle with Strife in the midst of a collapsing building, which eventually crumbles down on top of her. She recovers, but she clearly did not win the fight. She meets up with Strife again later, and loses that battle as well (but more on that in a bit).

There would've been a *very* bad pun

While trying to slip inside a club, Diana and Trevor come up against a particularly grumpy bouncer. He says they're not getting in, and the camera cuts to a few moments later, with Diana and Trevor inside. She says, "I don't get it. He didn't bounce." *cue groans*

Diana would've gotten her dance on

Once our heroes are inside the aforementioned club, Diana struts her stuff. The dance is described as "sensual, ethereal, and wicked sexy. This is not a warrior march; though it remains idiosyncratic, it is neither out of place nor unnoticed on the dance floor." It might seem silly, but the idea is to get the attention of Bacchus, the god of wine and revelry, who runs the club. And it works.

Trevor would've dropped the F-bomb on Diana

In a rather heated exchange about the nature of heroism, Trevor argues that Diana isn't a hero because a hero can't choose to be a hero. Because she can go back to paradise at any time, Trevor calls Diana a "****ing tourist." Ouch.

Diana would've lost her powers

In their second face-off, Diana and Strife come to a standstill. Strife takes Trevor captive and says the only thing that will save him is if Diana submits. She volunteers to become chained and powerless, and Strife teleports her to a rainforest. He leaves her there (presumably to die), and we see her for the first time struggle. She's weak, disheveled, hungry, and injured. She gets captured by some drug cartel types and only when she realizes her mother has been watching over her does she find the courage to fight back. She breaks free of her captors and pulls apart the chains binding her.

We would've seen (or... uh, *not* seen) the invisible jet

It's one of Wonder Woman's tackiest, silliest pieces of history, but yes, the invisible jet would've made a (non-)appearance in Whedon's version of Wonder Woman. After breaking free of the drug cartel, reclaiming her identity, and freeing other hostages, Diana is led to a hilltop where the invisible jet awaits. It's written to be funny, with everyone but Diana not understanding what's going on.

Trevor's big plan to save the day is... YouTube? Intense collateral damage? It's not super clear.

So Strife is working with Spearhead to destroy the fictional city of Gateway for... reasons. Nobody knows about this of course, so Trevor decides to bring Strife out of hiding and into the light. He sets a trap so that when the god of chaos arrives, he'll be broadcast for the world to see. "It's called the internet age," Trevor says cockily. "This is going out to the whole world." I wonder how many upvotes it'll get?

Now, one could argue that the real plan is just to frustrate Strife enough that he calls forth the mechanical monster Spearhead has been keeping in their basement. But that's not much better, considering the amount of damage it can (and does) cause.

There would've been a chase scene between our heroes and a mechanical chimera

Speaking of the metal beast: it's called a Khimaera, and while it's technically not an actual monster, it's a piece of machinery that's sure designed like one. It's over 100 feet long, with multiple "heads" used for drilling and demolitions, and a serpentine body. Strife rides the Khimaera as it chases Trevor and his friends through Gateway. Diana shows up in her invisible jet to fight it and deals a fair bit of damage before crashing and taking the fight to ground level.

It would've teased a romance with Trevor, Wonder Woman flying, and a battle with Ares

Once the Khimaera is defeated, Diana and Trevor face off against Strife. Diana tricks him into getting impaled by his own spear, and he dies. Suddenly an image of Ares appears, warning Diana that she has provoked him and his wrath. She strolls away from their conversation, Diana and Trevor kiss, and Diana has one last moment to reflect on her journey. She says an inspirational "I learned something today"-style monologue and then indicates she's going to try "reading the wind." Trevor objects, saying she can't fly. She looks back at him. "Can't?" Blackout. The end.

http://www.gamesradar.com/15-things-joss-whedons-wonder-woman-wouldve-done-and-no-12-is-the-invisible-jet/

We dodged a huge bullet with that one! Lol

 

[Micromind]

We dodged a huge bullet with that one! Lol

I think Cobie Smulders was his choice for WW actress, though he never publicly said that.

Smulders got the chance to be WW in Lego movie, tho.

 

[GothamBat]

description of joss whedon's wonder woman script.

Spoiler

the movie would've taken place in modern day

or at least more modern than the patty jenkins version coming out this summer. There's nothing too significant about this, but just keep the setting in mind as you continue reading. This is a world with cell phones, laptops, and other modern technology

the movie would've started on steve trevor

the movie still would've been called "wonder woman" and focused on diana of course, but it wouldn't be the black-haired heroine or indeed any amazon that we first see. Instead, the opening moments would have been dedicated to introducing steve trevor and his crash landing on themyscira while in the midst of transporting supplies to refugees.

Hippolyta and diana would not have gotten along

to be fair, diana and her mother hippolyta, queen of the amazons, might not get along in the wonder woman we'll get to see next month. But what little we have seen in trailers at least makes hippolyta come across as loving and concerned. In whedon's version, the two butt heads fairly frequently and loudly. They even have trial by combat to see who gets to decide trevor's fate.

Diana's gal pal would've been really curious about penises

there's no other way to put it. When trevor is first found (and captured) by the amazons, diana's friend aethra is enraptured. She rushes up to diana and whispers something the audience can't hear, causing diana's face to turn to shock. Aethra then says, audibly, "well i would have." later, after diana has interrogated trevor in his holding cell, aethra says, "tell me you at least looked at it." it's not hard to get what aethra's going for here

diana's first experience with the outside world would also be her first time getting shot

we've seen in the trailers a look of confusion and wonder (no pun intended) when a bullet whizzes by diana in slow motion. It's clear she's never seen modern weaponry before. Ditto for whedon's version, though in that script, diana takes a bullet to the chest when she challenges a warlord for control of the aforementioned refugee supplies. It doesn't kill her, but it does cause her to black out for several hours.

It would've had different villains

even though he hasn't been seen in full view, it's an open secret that the main villain in wonder woman will be ares, god of war. In whedon's treatment, it's strife, god of chaos, who causes problems for diana. Whedon describes him as having a white, disfigured face with red teeth and a carved metal skull-cap. He also has a nasty, dragon-like pet that eats people. So, not a good guy.

Strife is also tied to spearhead technologies, your standard evil mega-corporation. They deal in military tech, using corrupt officials to lay the groundwork for their misdeeds. They spread propaganda and the ceo outwardly expresses a desire for world domination. They also spy on the world and have a bunch of employees who work in a secret lair and wear all black. Their presence is... Not subtle. Oh, and they've got a giant machine monster in their basement.

Diana would've lost her first (and second) fight

it's a pretty well-worn trope by now that the hero must first encounter the big bad, lose to them, regroup, learn a valuable lesson about humanity, or inner strength, or courage, or the importance of teamwork, etc, and then come back and beat the villain later. In whedon's script, diana has a battle with strife in the midst of a collapsing building, which eventually crumbles down on top of her. She recovers, but she clearly did not win the fight. She meets up with strife again later, and loses that battle as well (but more on that in a bit).

There would've been a *very* bad pun

while trying to slip inside a club, diana and trevor come up against a particularly grumpy bouncer. He says they're not getting in, and the camera cuts to a few moments later, with diana and trevor inside. She says, "i don't get it. He didn't bounce." *cue groans*

diana would've gotten her dance on

once our heroes are inside the aforementioned club, diana struts her stuff. The dance is described as "sensual, ethereal, and wicked sexy. This is not a warrior march; though it remains idiosyncratic, it is neither out of place nor unnoticed on the dance floor." it might seem silly, but the idea is to get the attention of bacchus, the god of wine and revelry, who runs the club. And it works.

Trevor would've dropped the f-bomb on diana

in a rather heated exchange about the nature of heroism, trevor argues that diana isn't a hero because a hero can't choose to be a hero. Because she can go back to paradise at any time, trevor calls diana a "****ing tourist." ouch.

Diana would've lost her powers

in their second face-off, diana and strife come to a standstill. Strife takes trevor captive and says the only thing that will save him is if diana submits. She volunteers to become chained and powerless, and strife teleports her to a rainforest. He leaves her there (presumably to die), and we see her for the first time struggle. She's weak, disheveled, hungry, and injured. She gets captured by some drug cartel types and only when she realizes her mother has been watching over her does she find the courage to fight back. She breaks free of her captors and pulls apart the chains binding her.

We would've seen (or... Uh, *not* seen) the invisible jet

it's one of wonder woman's tackiest, silliest pieces of history, but yes, the invisible jet would've made a (non-)appearance in whedon's version of wonder woman. After breaking free of the drug cartel, reclaiming her identity, and freeing other hostages, diana is led to a hilltop where the invisible jet awaits. It's written to be funny, with everyone but diana not understanding what's going on.

Trevor's big plan to save the day is... Youtube? Intense collateral damage? It's not super clear.

So strife is working with spearhead to destroy the fictional city of gateway for... Reasons. Nobody knows about this of course, so trevor decides to bring strife out of hiding and into the light. He sets a trap so that when the god of chaos arrives, he'll be broadcast for the world to see. "it's called the internet age," trevor says cockily. "this is going out to the whole world." i wonder how many upvotes it'll get?

Now, one could argue that the real plan is just to frustrate strife enough that he calls forth the mechanical monster spearhead has been keeping in their basement. But that's not much better, considering the amount of damage it can (and does) cause.

There would've been a chase scene between our heroes and a mechanical chimera

speaking of the metal beast: It's called a khimaera, and while it's technically not an actual monster, it's a piece of machinery that's sure designed like one. It's over 100 feet long, with multiple "heads" used for drilling and demolitions, and a serpentine body. Strife rides the khimaera as it chases trevor and his friends through gateway. Diana shows up in her invisible jet to fight it and deals a fair bit of damage before crashing and taking the fight to ground level.

It would've teased a romance with trevor, wonder woman flying, and a battle with ares

once the khimaera is defeated, diana and trevor face off against strife. Diana tricks him into getting impaled by his own spear, and he dies. Suddenly an image of ares appears, warning diana that she has provoked him and his wrath. She strolls away from their conversation, diana and trevor kiss, and diana has one last moment to reflect on her journey. She says an inspirational "i learned something today"-style monologue and then indicates she's going to try "reading the wind." trevor objects, saying she can't fly. She looks back at him. "can't?" blackout. The end.

http://www.gamesradar.com/15-things-joss-whedons-wonder-woman-wouldve-done-and-no-12-is-the-invisible-jet/

jfc...