All Things Wonder Woman: An Open Discussion - - - - - - - - - Part 18

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The war plus it's the WWI ,it will be dark. Personally I like that

World War was a dark moment in history.

A pretty good portion of modern Wonder Woman stories have dealt with themes of war and peace, or serious issues faced by women and the downtrodden or persecuted. Darker and serious makes perfect sense. She's very much a symbol of hope in a troubled world.

The setting of a movie does not define it's tone. Not all war movies or movies depicting armed combat are dark. In fact there are dark movies without much violence.

Yes it's set during a war but:

Will the movie have dark filters or will it have a standard color?
Will they show blood and gore or will they just show soldiers falling down like in many other war films?
Will Wonder Woman kill, snap necks, etc. or will she just knock enemies down?
Will the movie feel joyless and depressing or will it feel inspiring?
Will the ending be dramatic or will it be a happy ending?

These are all options filmmakers have and both are equally valid, regardless of the setting. It all depends on what kind of movie they want to make.
 
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This may sound petty, but between all the rumors, the talk of this film being a 'disaster,' one insider report to the next, the armpit discussion, the stigma of it being in the DCEU, the articles about lack of marketing...

The closer this film comes to release, the more I'd just like it to shatter expectations. Not meet them. Not exceed them. But shatter them. I know that's akin to the whole 'shatter the glass ceiling,' but this movie has had such an uphill climb from critics and every person out there with a keyboard that if it caught fire, that would be so satisfying, even my guess on this film's performance is as good as anyone else's.

I don't mean caught fire like, say, The Dark Knight or Avengers level, but if it ends up being something memorable for the right reasons, that would be great.

Plus, as far as who this appeals to, there's gonna be tons of young girls who'll see this and no doubt hopefully become more intrigued in Wonder Woman.
 
Get a fresh pair of panties, cause some critic screenings take place today. Allegedly. Enjoy yo panic mode, you bastahs.
 
The setting of a movie does not define it's tone. Not all war movies or movies depicting armed combat are dark. In fact there are dark movies without much violence.

Yes it's set during a war but:

Will the movie have dark filters or will it have a standard color?
Will they show blood and gore or will they just show soldiers falling down like in many other war films?
Will Wonder Woman kill, snap necks, etc. or will she just knock enemies down?
Will the movie feel joyless and depressing or will it feel inspiring?
Will the ending be dramatic or will it be a happy ending?

These are all options filmmakers have and both are equally valid, regardless of the setting. It all depends on what kind of movie they want to make.

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Yeah, screening/s today. Don't know if for critics or not. Could be for press like Fallon or GMA.

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The fat guy in charge of RT mentioned a screening tonight, but he later deleted his tweet.
 
The fat guy in charge of RT mentioned a screening tonight, but he later deleted his tweet.

So I guess critics...

And Matt Atchity? He's not fat anymore. And he really loves Gal Gadot, so that's something at least.
 
This may sound petty, but between all the rumors, the talk of this film being a 'disaster,' one insider report to the next, the armpit discussion, the stigma of it being in the DCEU, the articles about lack of marketing...

The closer this film comes to release, the more I'd just like it to shatter expectations. Not meet them. Not exceed them. But shatter them. I know that's akin to the whole 'shatter the glass ceiling,' but this movie has had such an uphill climb from critics and every person out there with a keyboard that if it caught fire, that would be so satisfying, even my guess on this film's performance is as good as anyone else's.

I don't mean caught fire like, say, The Dark Knight or Avengers level, but if it ends up being something memorable for the right reasons, that would be great.

Plus, as far as who this appeals to, there's gonna be tons of young girls who'll see this and no doubt hopefully become more intrigued in Wonder Woman.

This. :up:
 
Get a fresh pair of panties, cause some critic screenings take place today. Allegedly. Enjoy yo panic mode, you bastahs.

Oh good lord this thread is about to go nuclear...
 
The setting of a movie does not define it's tone. Not all war movies or movies depicting armed combat are dark. In fact there are dark movies without much violence.

Yes it's set during a war but:

Will the movie have dark filters or will it have a standard color?
Will they show blood and gore or will they just show soldiers falling down like in many other war films?
Will Wonder Woman kill, snap necks, etc. or will she just knock enemies down?
Will the movie feel joyless and depressing or will it feel inspiring?
Will the ending be dramatic or will it be a happy ending?

These are all options filmmakers have and both are equally valid, regardless of the setting. It all depends on what kind of movie they want to make.

I don't think the color of the film is a secret; we've all seen a pretty large sample from the released materials so far. As for the rest of your list, I kind of felt GotG2 fit a majority of that criteria, and I doubt it was considered dark. I think the most important thing is pacing of relief breaks in the narrative and balance.

Anyway, I just bought my tickets!
 
The setting of a movie does not define it's tone. Not all war movies or movies depicting armed combat are dark. In fact there are dark movies without much violence.

Yes it's set during a war but:

Will the movie have dark filters or will it have a standard color?
Will they show blood and gore or will they just show soldiers falling down like in many other war films?
Will Wonder Woman kill, snap necks, etc. or will she just knock enemies down?
Will the movie feel joyless and depressing or will it feel inspiring?
Will the ending be dramatic or will it be a happy ending?

These are all options filmmakers have and both are equally valid, regardless of the setting. It all depends on what kind of movie they want to make.

You can see the scenes on the Island have very bright colors.
They can't show blood and gore because it's rated PG-13.
The rest you'll just have to wait and see...

In my opinion a movie can be both dark and have funny sarcasm and light harted humor. As someone who lives through a war every few years and have been in the army I think as sense of humor is important in order to deal with the dark parts.
 
The film seems to have the vibe of Raider of the Lost Ark --another PG rated film.
 
Got my tickets for a showing on the 31st. I'm sort of excited, just hoping the DCEU wont burn me once again.
 
The setting of a movie does not define it's tone. Not all war movies or movies depicting armed combat are dark. In fact there are dark movies without much violence.

Yes it's set during a war but:

Will the movie have dark filters or will it have a standard color?
Will they show blood and gore or will they just show soldiers falling down like in many other war films?
Will Wonder Woman kill, snap necks, etc. or will she just knock enemies down?
Will the movie feel joyless and depressing or will it feel inspiring?
Will the ending be dramatic or will it be a happy ending?

These are all options filmmakers have and both are equally valid, regardless of the setting. It all depends on what kind of movie they want to make.

Yeah its clear now rhat "dark" means different things to different people. Myself, ill settle for "good" and "entertaining".
 
Have it be clever in how it handles plot and character, not just dark or light for the hell of it, or as a substitute for something.
 
I don't think the color of the film is a secret; we've all seen a pretty large sample from the released materials so far. As for the rest of your list, I kind of felt GotG2 fit a majority of that criteria, and I doubt it was considered dark. I think the most important thing is pacing of relief breaks in the narrative and balance.

Anyway, I just bought my tickets!

What criteria?

I just posted two different ways a movie set during a war can be depicted. It doesn't have to be dark like some people here claim. That's completely up to the filmmakers.

GotG 2 was obviously not a dark movie for plenty of reasons.

You can see the scenes on the Island have very bright colors.
They can't show blood and gore because it's rated PG-13.
The rest you'll just have to wait and see...

In my opinion a movie can be both dark and have funny sarcasm and light harted humor. As someone who lives through a war every few years and have been in the army I think as sense of humor is important in order to deal with the dark parts.

You misunderstood my post.

I'm not debating whether WW is a dark movie or not. I'm just showing that movies depicting war don't have to be dark.

Yeah its clear now rhat "dark" means different things to different people. Myself, ill settle for "good" and "entertaining".

Sure, but filmmakers do have a tone in mind when they make the film.
 
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