The Dark Knight Rises Anne Hathaway as Selina Kyle/Catwoman XXXI

[scifiwolf]

I think that moment where Selina, holding back tears, begs Bruce to come with her is my favorite Catwoman moment, and one of my favorite in the movie. I like that it thematically elevates her to Alfred's level, in a way. I mean that in terms of how much she obviously cares about him. It was acted beautifully. The payoff was that Batman actually wouldn't have come away from it if she hadn't "helped" with the Batpod cannons.

As for the "something more" that's inside her, that prompts her to return, I don't think it's anything other than she's fallen in love with Bruce. Looking at her actions prior, and her callousness (needed for her survival) towards others, I don't think she would've come back otherwise. The invitation confirms that. She leaves out of habit, but she just can't leave without him. His will to stay and fight is stronger than hers to leave. Just as much as he acknowledges that he needs to give the people of Gotham everything, she realizes she needs to give him everything, and she hasn't yet. While her crimes and actions may have benefited/helped others in the past, this is the first moment she specifically acts without regard for survival, but rather to aid another. It's that moment any of us with a spouse, or children, know. The disregard for self preservation to protect the ones we love.

While Bruce and Selina never remains permanent, she actually reaches this point in the comics and I was thrilled to have seen it it in the movie. The icing was that Nolan actually gave them that happy ending, and it really worked. They earned it.

 

[Batman jr.]

No.

I like both Catwomen, but she's not the same as Anne's. I don't feel any sympathy for Pfeiffer's Selina.

 

[AnneFan]

and then comes---- "I guess we're both suckers" and that passionate kiss

That's a funny line.

I think Anne screaming like a scared little girl is priceless. It feels like a real Anne Hathaway type thing to do, her fun personality coming through. And it's similar in a way to BR's Catwoman shouting "how could you?, I'm a woman"

 

[The_Shadow]

The look on Batmans face when he was trying to explain how to start the BatBike and she starts it up herself is hilarious.

His face was hard to see but I loved that part.

 

[Pfeiffer-Pfan]

I like both Catwomen, but she's not the same as Anne's. I don't feel any sympathy for Pfeiffer's Selina.

Yikes. I definitely don't agree with this... I never, ever felt sympathy for Anne's Catwoman. But then Anne's was never meant to be sympathetic.

This is a sympathetic Catwoman (@2:15):

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[Batman jr.]

Yikes. I definitely don't agree with this... I never, ever felt sympathy for Anne's Catwoman. But then Anne's was never meant to be sympathetic.

This is a sympathetic Catwoman (@2:30):

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I hate BR with a passion and Pfeiffers great performance won't change that.

 

[Optimus_Prime_]

I like both Catwomen, but she's not the same as Anne's. I don't feel any sympathy for Pfeiffer's Selina.

I didn't feel sympathy for Anne at all. In fact, it's part of what I liked about her. She was a glorious b*tch.

 

[Batman jr.]

I didn't feel sympathy for Anne at all. In fact, it's part of what I liked about her. She was a glorious b*tch.

I like glorious *****es.

 

[AnneFan]

"Nobody's called me dumb before."

 

[Pfeiffer-Pfan]

I hate BR with a passion and Pfeiffers great performance won't change that.

Well... at least now we each have our definitive Catwoman.

 

[Batman jr.]

Well... at least now we each have our definitive Catwoman.

 

[Dark Raven]

I think that moment where Selina, holding back tears, begs Bruce to come with her is my favorite Catwoman moment, and one of my favorite in the movie. I like that it thematically elevates her to Alfred's level, in a way. I mean that in terms of how much she obviously cares about him. It was acted beautifully. The payoff was that Batman actually wouldn't have come away from it if she hadn't "helped" with the Batpod cannons.

As for the "something more" that's inside her, that prompts her to return, I don't think it's anything other than she's fallen in love with Bruce. Looking at her actions prior, and her callousness (needed for her survival) towards others, I don't think she would've come back otherwise. The invitation confirms that. She leaves out of habit, but she just can't leave without him. His will to stay and fight is stronger than hers to leave. Just as much as he acknowledges that he needs to give the people of Gotham everything, she realizes she needs to give him everything, and she hasn't yet. While her crimes and actions may have benefited/helped others in the past, this is the first moment she specifically acts without regard for survival, but rather to aid another. It's that moment any of us with a spouse, or children, know. The disregard for self preservation to protect the ones we love.

While Bruce and Selina never remains permanent, she actually reaches this point in the comics and I was thrilled to have seen it it in the movie. The icing was that Nolan actually gave them that happy ending, and it really worked. They earned it.

Has she really fallen in love with him by that point in the movie, or is there just attraction? Love might be a bit of a strong word. Maybe she realises he's a decent man and is working for the good of the city, and when she begs him to come away with her, it's because she wants him to survive and not endanger himself, and also to explore the chance of something. If you had even a friend you care about, wouldn't you also tell them to come away with you and leave this dangerous place if it seems like they're going into a suicide mission?

I'm not saying she couldn't fall in love, but is it that far along at that point? Or just admiration and a concern because she does have a heart?

That's a funny line.


I think Anne screaming like a scared little girl is priceless. It feels like a real Anne Hathaway type thing to do, her fun personality coming through. And it's similar in a way to BR's Catwoman shouting "how could you?, I'm a woman"

Yes, that was great. It does feel like Anne shining through. I sometimes wish more of Anne came through at certain times where Selina could have had the chance to slip into an Anne-like persona. Even the maid bit at the beginning where she was startled by the arrow and started acting all sheepish and awkward and almost geeky seemed quite Anne-ish.

 

[Two-Face]

"Nobody's called me dumb before."

Yeah I like that. I when she first meets Bruce at Wayne Manor when she reveals her real self then says "oops no one told me it was uncrackable" Anne pulled that off nicely.

 

[Batman jr.]

Yeah I like that. I when she first meets Bruce at Wayne Manor when she reveals her real self then says "oops no one told me it was uncrackable" Anne pulled that off nicely.

This.

I also like the way she rolls her eyes during her interrogation. t:

 

[Pfeiffer-Pfan]

"Nobody's called me dumb before."

So where can we find you when this thread dies down?

 

[Dark Raven]

I like glorious *****es.

Does that word begin with "P"?

 

[rickfox]

While Bruce and Selina never remains permanent, she actually reaches this point in the comics and I was thrilled to have seen it it in the movie. The icing was that Nolan actually gave them that happy ending, and it really worked. They earned it.

well,I think within TDKR's plots,Mr Nolan set Bruce&Selina's relationship to a very serious level

between Bruce and Selina

mothers's(alive/deceased) jewellery can be passed to their son's wife/fiancee/partner and served as a symbol to confirm marriage

that pearl necklace(Thomas Wayne gave them to his wife as a gift) shall be considered as a symbol/hint to indicate who will be Bruce's wife/ partner since the begining part of The Dark Knight rises

and at the end of movie-- there are pearl necklace on Selina's neck when she and Bruce were sitting in that cafe on the banks of XXXX river near Florence

also, if we trace back to the begining part of this movie, Alfred clearly indicate that he always hoping to see Bruce lives happily with wife(even kids),but he also stated "I won't say anything to you,nor would you"(both sides remain silence)

so let Selina wearing Martha Wayne's pearl necklace is the best way to tell Alfred that she is Mrs Wayne now ---in order to fulfil Alfred's wish

 

[Optimus_Prime_]

I like glorious *****es.

The only thing I didn't like is I never bought Bruce could EVER trust her. I also wish they had shown her being a girl more, show that she longed for an exclusive relationship because it just seemed like once her ID was erased maybe she'd get bored, steal from him and leave.

 

[Batman jr.]

Does that word begin with "P"?

Pickles?
Pretzels?
Pricks?

 

[AnneFan]

Even the maid bit at the beginning where she was startled by the arrow and started acting all sheepish and awkward and almost geeky seemed quite Anne-ish.

Yeah, I agree. Cute can never be an over-used word in regard to Anne. How she commented that the tabloid rumours of Bruce's appearance were false, and how she was talking in a quieter, softer tone at the time. In particular I liked how she said "oops". Very arousing. t:

Bruce says something like her not liking to show her feelings. As it went on she started to do that. From asking him to come with her, to the kiss before the bomb is towed, and finally seeing them together at the end.

 

[Batman jr.]

The only thing I didn't like is I never bought Bruce could EVER trust her. I also wish they had shown her being a girl more, show that she longed for an exclusive relationship because it just seemed like once her ID was erased maybe she'd get bored, steal from him and leave.

So, her shooting the tunnel with confidence, about to leave town for good, right before she contemplates and turns around to help him is not enough proof for you?

Jesus, this nitpicking is getting out of hand.

 

[Batman jr.]

Yeah, I agree. Cute can never be an over-used word in regard to Anne. How she commented that the tabloid rumours of Bruce's appearance were false, and how she was talking in a quieter, softer tone at the time. In particular I liked how she said "oops". Very arousing. t:

Bruce says something like her not liking to show her feelings. As it went on she started to do that. From asking him to come with her, to the kiss before the bomb is towed, and finally seeing them together at the end.

Isn't all that very close to their "relationship" in the comics?

 

[BuddhaWasABat]

After my second viewing Anne was still my favorite performance (though I liked Bane much more this time) and still wish she had some more screen time in the middle.

 

[Dark Raven]

well,I think within TDKR's plots,Mr Nolan set Bruce&Selina's relationship to a very serious level

between Bruce and Selina

mothers's(alive/deceased) jewellery can be passed to their son's wife/fiancee/partner and served as a symbol to confirm marriage

that pearl necklace(Thomas Wayne gave them to his wife as a gift) shall be considered as a symbol/hint to indicate who will be Bruce's wife/ partner since the begining part of The Dark Knight rises

and at the end of movie-- there are pearl necklace on Selina's neck when she and Bruce were sitting in that cafe on the banks of XXXX river near Florence

also, if we trace back to the begining part of this movie, Alfred clearly indicate that he always hoping to see Bruce lives happily with wife(even kids),but he also stated "I won't say anything to you,nor would you"(both sides remain silence)

so let Selina wearing Martha Wayne's pearl necklace is the best way to tell Alfred that she is Mrs Wayne now ---in order to fulfil Alfred's wish

That's a good observation. Maybe she was Mrs Wayne now. That would be cool. No sense in him pining for Rachel Dawes anymore, and besides, if he wants some of that, she can always do her Katie Holmes impression for him. t:

 

[AnneFan]

That's a good observation. Maybe she was Mrs Wayne now. That would be cool. No sense in him pining for Rachel Dawes anymore, and besides, if he wants some of that, she can always do her Katie Holmes impression for him. t:

With the information the film gives us, I agree that Selina is Bruce's life partner. Which makes Bale's Bruce Wayne the luckiest incarnation of the character. Ever.