Arrow Arrow General Discussion Thread - - - Part 17

[yonny616]

I don't think they've been doing one year per flashback story. I could be wrong, but I did not get the impression the first two seasons of flashbacks on the island were two years on the island.

That's actually what they're doing with the flashbacks. Each flashback so far has been a year. Also the producers have said at the end of season 5 we'd see that clip of Oliver getting off the island like the pilot.

 

[Mike Murdock]

So how did that work out. Were there eight to ten months of stuff going on between Fyers being defeated and Ivo showing up? Because the behind the scenes the first season couldn't have been more than a month or two.

 

[Boy Scout]

There have been time skips in both the flashbacks and the present day.

 

[Seb]

I really hope the show doesn't go past 5 seasons. The longest CW shows, Smallville and Supernatural, were both planned for 5 seasons max, and they both suffered in quality after. Not to mention, the showrunners said in the past that they've tried to do an episode without flashbacks in the past and it just didn't feel right. I can't see them pulling off the same magic since Oliver won't be having flashbacks at that point unless they end up stretching the flashbacks to last longer.

One way they could stretch out the flashback format would be to have Ollie disappear for another few years, do a time jump to his return and have the flashbacks be of this new gap.

Or they could go full on comic book crazy, have a Flashpoint event in Flash and completely reinvent Ollie's backstory and give us a whole bunch of flashbacks of this new history.

 

[yonny616]

So how did that work out. Were there eight to ten months of stuff going on between Fyers being defeated and Ivo showing up? Because the behind the scenes the first season couldn't have been more than a month or two.

What The-Boy-Scout said. Usually there's time jumps in both flash back and present time of a couple months from the winter break and when the show returns to a new season.

 

[Boy Scout]

One way they could stretch out the flashback format would be to have Ollie disappear for another few years, do a time jump to his return and have the flashbacks be of this new gap.

Or they could go full on comic book crazy, have a Flashpoint event in Flash and completely reinvent Ollie's backstory and give us a whole bunch of flashbacks of this new history.

Neither of those sound appealing.

 

[Seb]

No, they don't. However, a lack of flashbacks would leave more time to flesh out villains and side characters

 

[Boy Scout]

Which I think most of us would welcome.

If they choose to end the show after season five, though, I won't complain. Both SPN and SV suffered from going on for too long.

 

[SpideyVille]

I don't think they've been doing one year per flashback story. I could be wrong, but I did not get the impression the first two seasons of flashbacks on the island were two years on the island.

Every now and then, when they do a Flashback, they make sure to indicate it was 5 years ago from present day. Not to mention, Amell said it himself earlier in the season that we're reaching Ollie's halfway point on his journey overseas.

No, they don't. However, a lack of flashbacks would leave more time to flesh out villains and side characters

Yes you are right, however let's not forget that the flashbacks are one of the reasons this show was successful early on. It's about seeing how both of those stories are intertwined, and how Ollie's past still haunts him today or helps him.

Plus, the flashback stuff has been so well received that it's been done on the Flash very frequently as well. The thin about the Flash is they use fast forwards and flashbacks to tell a greater story.

 

[The Shape]

No, they don't. However, a lack of flashbacks would leave more time to flesh out villains and side characters

I agree. That's what's really starting to separate The Flash and Arrow this season in terms of quality and story progress. Arrow, by rule, must devote at least 3 scenes to flashbacks per episode, whereas there are plenty of Flash episodes with no flashbacks at all. However, The Flash will utilize the flashback episode structure (as it did last episode) when necessary, which in turn, makes them more effective.

Arrow now has so many characters and subplots taking place in present day, and I think the flashback episode "formula" they're locked into is starting to hurt the show a bit. They're essentially wasting time in the past that could be spent in present day. Last season, the flashbacks so perfectly intersected with the present day plot (especially by the end of the season). I'm sure this season's flashbacks will continue to grow increasingly important to the present day story, but I think we can all agree that this season's flashbacks are much less interesting than they have been in the past.

I wouldn't mind if they reduced the flashbacks to every other episode. Keep the whole thing going, but devote more time overall to pushing the present day story forward, fleshing out the newer characters, introduce new mysteries, etc.

 

[Arrowshieldfan]

What kind of mysteries do you want to see Arrow introduce?

 

[Vlyse]

Put me in Camp Sportsmaster for Season 4. If/when Thea dies, Oliver feels motivated to look after Artemis and train her since he feels guilty about letting Thea train with Malcolm. Roy still needs more story, so have him hookup with Cheshire and (at the very very end of the show) introduce Lian Harper.

There's also Arrowette and the whole Roy Harper being a descendant of Vandal Savage but I don't know how either would work well. It's one way to top Ra's al Ghul though by introducing someone even older than him.

 

[zenith16]

Put me in Camp Sportsmaster for Season 4. If/when Thea dies, Oliver feels motivated to look after Artemis and train her since he feels guilty about letting Thea train with Malcolm. Roy still needs more story, so have him hookup with Cheshire and (at the very very end of the show) introduce Lian Harper.

There's also Arrowette and the whole Roy Harper being a descendant of Vandal Savage but I don't know how either would work well. It's one way to top Ra's al Ghul though by introducing someone even older than him.

Roy is also related to the captain America of the DCU as well who's this guy

Guardian II well he's related to the first one

The Golden Age Guardian AKA Jim Harper, as well which was fully like cap personality wise. the Guardian II is like cap with his powers. but both had the cavalier thing going down

 

[Deltron3030]

I think they'll start to follow Lost by season 5 and do flash-forwards instead of flashbacks.

Maybe something epic at the end of season 4 triggers it.

 

[cheungcheung]

I think they'll start to follow Lost by season 5 and do flash-forwards instead of flashbacks.

Maybe something epic at the end of season 4 triggers it.

Not a bad idea...

 

[fire117]

I think they'll start to follow Lost by season 5 and do flash-forwards instead of flashbacks.

Maybe something epic at the end of season 4 triggers it.

I'd rather they don't do flash forwards post season 5.

I wasn't a big fan of LOST to be honest and having flash forwards would tick me off.

 

[Jedi Arrow]

Well, they went to the trouble of setting up the fact that Oliver got a girl pregnant, and there hasn't been any payoff for that yet (right?), so if they do flash-forwards they could show that character as a teenager. He'd be, what, seven years old now? So skip about that same number of years, and have Oliver meet his teenaged son. It could work.

 

[Mike Murdock]

Rather than flashforwards, it makes more sense to jump ahead a few years.

 

[coluanprime]

Apparently they killed off Bronze Tiger in the Arrow season 2.5 comic which would explain why he is not going to appear in 3.17.

 

[JC00]

Based on the characters that are reportedly in Titans little chance it will be part of the Arrow/Flash universe.

 

[luis4u]

Brandon said he hasn't minded seeing the Twitter reactions from the latter group.

"It's all in fun. It's good that people are reacting. Whether it's good or bad towards Ray, it's positive [for the show] and we're creating some kind of commotion and feeling, which is positive," he said. "I've definitely gotten more positive than negative support."

But, the actor said he can completely understand those who feel Oliver and Felicity are meant to be.


http://www.accesshollywood.com/arro...rs-the-man_article_103406#gAp4z6Ev1uEBZkP8.99

 

[luis4u]

http://www.greenarrowtv.com/oliver-...icity-kissed-barry-plus-more-vixen-talk/21476

In a new interview at Assignment X, Arrow Executive Producer Marc Guggenheim revealed that Oliver will find out that Felicity and Barry Allen kissed in the Flash episode “Going Rogue” – which is something a lot of folks had been wondering about.“There’s actually a question I’ve been getting on Twitter a lot – is Oliver [Stephen Amell] going to find out that Felicity [Emily Bett Rickards] kissed Barry [Grant Gustin]? That’s actually going to happen in the Vixen cartoon,” Guggenheim said.




Could Vixen ever become a live-action show? “One of the things we say is, ‘Never say never’,” Marc said. “If the character resonates with people, that would be wonderful. I would love to be in a position where CW said to us, ‘Hey, we want a Vixen live-action show.’ We’ll have to see how things play out, but we really want to produce the highest-quality animated series. We want people to come to this who don’t normally watch an animated show. We want fans of The Flash and fans of Arrow to come to CWSeed.com.”

 

[zenith16]

Brandon said he hasn't minded seeing the Twitter reactions from the latter group.

"It's all in fun. It's good that people are reacting. Whether it's good or bad towards Ray, it's positive [for the show] and we're creating some kind of commotion and feeling, which is positive," he said. "I've definitely gotten more positive than negative support."

But, the actor said he can completely understand those who feel Oliver and Felicity are meant to be.


http://www.accesshollywood.com/arro...rs-the-man_article_103406#gAp4z6Ev1uEBZkP8.99

meh he wasn't gonna break them up any way that relation ship with ray & felicity is one sided . it's the writers those fan's have to worry about lol or I should really say it's those crazed love couples fan the writers have to worry about .

o the post after that I'm not touching that crap.

 

[Seb]

http://www.greenarrowtv.com/oliver-...icity-kissed-barry-plus-more-vixen-talk/21476

In a new interview at Assignment X, Arrow Executive Producer Marc Guggenheim revealed that Oliver will find out that Felicity and Barry Allen kissed in the Flash episode “Going Rogue” – which is something a lot of folks had been wondering about.“There’s actually a question I’ve been getting on Twitter a lot – is Oliver [Stephen Amell] going to find out that Felicity [Emily Bett Rickards] kissed Barry [Grant Gustin]? That’s actually going to happen in the Vixen cartoon,” Guggenheim said.




Could Vixen ever become a live-action show? “One of the things we say is, ‘Never say never’,” Marc said. “If the character resonates with people, that would be wonderful. I would love to be in a position where CW said to us, ‘Hey, we want a Vixen live-action show.’ We’ll have to see how things play out, but we really want to produce the highest-quality animated series. We want people to come to this who don’t normally watch an animated show. We want fans of The Flash and fans of Arrow to come to CWSeed.com.”

If Oliver does find out and his reaction is anything other than 'meh', I'm gonna be annoyed. It's not a big deal, especially considering that Olicity weren't together and it was basically a 'we're in love with other people' kiss. Oliver's a goddamn adult, and I really hope he acts like it.

 

[zenith16]

yeah seeing they have olliciety fans & all this is dancing to close to/on north American Day time soaps which the stories become worse cause of it . oy yeah if they have ollie dewell & complain about that crap. Alot of people won't like it. except maybe that bunch.

As I said I won't touch it . it melts good brain cells