Arrow Arrow General Discussion Thread - - - - - - Part 20

[Arrowshieldfan]

No. I think Oliver learned how to do everything during his missing 5 years cause he be cool like that.

Some thing we yet to know is his plane skills, computer/hackig skills, advance fighting skills more bow/arrow training and whether that is missing...

 

[Snow Queen]

Well she's gay, she aint that desperate.

These writers can barely be consistent scene to scene, you expect them to keep that consistent? Plus, you know, Oliver is just so amazing and perfect and flawless that he can do that.

 

[mr. peasant]

I don't think that's been entirely confirmed yet. All we know is that she was romantically involved with Sara and still holds her close to her heart. But for all we know, it may end up being revealed that she'd be interested in being a with a guy if the right person came along. I feel like it's ambiguous as to whether she's gay or simply bi-sexual.

I think in the absence of evidence to suggest so, I think it would be wrong - or at least presumptuous - to simply assume that Nyssa is interested in guys.

 

[Herolee10]

I'm actually curious to see on how they'll actually bring back the "Arrow" persona given on everything that's transpired in this season. Well actually, I'm just curious to see on how much B.S. will be involved in the logic that'll be used to bring Oliver back as Green Arrow.

I mean are they just going to simply say that everyone in the public thinks that Roy Harper was the Arrow so that when Oliver comes back, people will start to think that it's just some "new dude" who happens to dress up as the original arrow?

Or is Oliver going to take a "Young Justice" approach where he's transitioned into going on more covert operations as opposed to working as a costumed hero within a single city?

 

[Primal Slayer]

I don't think that's been entirely confirmed yet. All we know is that she was romantically involved with Sara and still holds her close to her heart. But for all we know, it may end up being revealed that she'd be interested in being a with a guy if the right person came along. I feel like it's ambiguous as to whether she's gay or simply bi-sexual.

She is gay gay gay gay gay gay gay

Hey Marc love the show just wanted to ask you a question to help get people off your back Has Nyssa ever said that she is not attracted to men? Cause to me she seemed appalled that she had to marry Oliver not that she had to marry a man

Marc: I appreciate the attempt to get people off my back, but I can see a way that this could easily get more people to jump on. Nyssa is gay. I’lm going to leave it at that.

http://marcguggenheim.tumblr.com/post/118463543429/hey-marc-love-the-show-just-wanted-to-ask-you-a

 

[Herolee10]

She is gay gay gay gay gay gay gay



http://marcguggenheim.tumblr.com/post/118463543429/hey-marc-love-the-show-just-wanted-to-ask-you-a

Well, that's one quiver that Oliver will never stick his arrow in.

 

[mocomic]

Since the public thinks Arrow died in prison. Oliver can be the Green Arrow.

 

[Snow Queen]

Since the public thinks Arrow died in prison. Oliver can be the Green Arrow.

I keep seeing people saying this on other forums and I'm confused how you think just tacking "Green" onto his superhero name would really change the situation and make it fine for him to come back again. Care to explain?

 

[Paradox1]

Seeing as though Oliver is getting on a ship with Coast City on it. Is it possible that the next hero we meet next year will be Hal Jordan in the flashback? GL maybe off limits but Hal Jordan whose to say.

 

[vantheman77]

The third season was in a tough position to follow a great season like the 2nd season. I felt the 2nd season was the show's peak.

 

[ardee]

Man, so much wasted potential.

Why not have Ra's discover a still barely alive Oliver a couple episodes after the midseason fight and then get on the Al Sah-him train, Oliver goes with it to destroy the league from the inside, and boom, the first time Team Arrow sees him after 4-5 episodes will be as him evil.

More time for Laurel, Dig, Roy, Thea and Felicity to actually develop, and seeing Evil! Oliver would have a lot more impact.

I really hope they use this season as a learning experience for S4, there's a lot of potential with this HIVE storyline and they need to get back to the S2 glory days.

 

[Legendver2]

I keep seeing people saying this on other forums and I'm confused how you think just tacking "Green" onto his superhero name would really change the situation and make it fine for him to come back again. Care to explain?

It's not hard to imagine, you got Roy vigilante-ing around before, and now Thea will be doing the same, and both characters can more or less be classified as Red Arrow, I dont see why a Green Arrow would be a problem.

 

[FeedOnATreeFrog]

Of course he can come back. He did come back in the season finale. He would just have to avoid the cops, as per usual.

A new costume/name would help.

 

[Herolee10]

You know, what makes this frustrating is that Marc G. is probably sitting on his ass thinking that he's some big genius for having come up with the crap that he has for Season 3.

The dude doesn't know on how to take constructive criticism well, labeling any that's directed towards him as being nothing more than us acting like spoiled and uneducated brats or overly hyped tumblr shippers.

 

[Nathan]

God... am I happy this is over. Hope we can start over with Season 4. This entire season has been bull**** since the very first Episode. The last couple Episodes didn't change that for me in the slightest.

 

[Justin]

I know it's a weird thing to say on a super hero forum, but I miss Season One where everything was believable and there was none of this 'fantastical' stuff. It all works so well in the Flash but everything beyond Mirakuru in Arrow has been handled terribly.

That being said I'd love a much more grounded S4 with Dahrk being more tech based and less mystical. Have the Arrow team smaller and bring back Oliver halfway through the season with just a 'it didn't work out' for Felicity who they need to write out the show.

Then build for S5 and the series ultimate finale which should be Arrow vs Malcolm 2.

 

[Crimz]

What I want:

Felicity needs to die, she has dragged the entire season down. And she should of never have been a love interest.

Diggle should die during the H.I.V.E battle next season. As much as I like him, he has no use and just takes up screen time.

Oliver needs his common sense back, he's been a complete idiot the whole season. Was he lobotomized or something?

No Malcolm Merlin at all during next season. At all.

I like Laurel, so for the love of God please don't give her any romance with anyone.

Season 3 has been awful.

 

[dude stannis]

God... am I happy this is over. Hope we can start over with Season 4. This entire season has been bull**** since the very first Episode. The last couple Episodes didn't change that for me in the slightest.

Yeah, honestly, I'm sitting Season 4 out unless they acknowledge they f**ked up with this season and promise to fix the show. It's not like I wont have Flash, Legends and potentially Constantine to give me my TV DC comics fix.

 

[zenith16]

What I want:

Felicity needs to die, she has dragged the entire season down. And she should of never have been a love interest.

Diggle should die during the H.I.V.E battle next season. As much as I like him, he has no use and just takes up screen time.

Oliver needs his common sense back, he's been a complete idiot the whole season. Was he lobotomized or something?

No Malcolm Merlin at all during next season. At all.

I like Laurel, so for the love of God please don't give her any romance with anyone.

Season 3 has been awful.

I don't agree with killing off the main characters like diggle of felicity. they are main stays the fan base love them.

How ever I want to writers to better think through their plots ad if the have trouble like making mystery they should hire some that's made decent story like crime novelist so it won't cause trouble for their budget if that's the issue . as to love relationship have it be normal & don't make be the over all focuses of the season it's a side story thing to lighten the mood.


Also for christ sake think about the plot in those love plot through if you want the fan base to continue like the characters do't put them in situation that will put them in ill redeemable potion's where a relation aren't ever be fixed like cheating on your current girl friend with her sibling or best friend still trying to push they should still be on the same team when trying save the world when also showcasing they can't ever get past that strain.
put your self i that situation would I still want to be around some that did this to me ? like you asked them to take care of your kid or pet they promised you they would as soon as leave the be come nasty & kill that person or pet or couldn't be bothered to care for what happens to the person or pet you promised to take care of & aren't honest with you? no one want sto be a around people like that .

yet writers for some reason wonder what's the problem? why is my audience not happy with the chose I made of the rapist getting away with his crime, after the protists confronted him in my resolve the issue plot of a story? it's cause let the monster get away Scott free making sure he ever see's justice for it.

Especially when you push to the audience the word realism .


You setting your self up for trouble with your audience when you said your pushing realism but are overly selective in the worst way possible of what you meant there. Especially with the area's of relationships of any sort.


I want to say something on consequence's too, but they said something about Thea & what side effect of pit for n ext season they already messed it up with the delayed reaction, but it's still possible to recover, I guess so this is why I'm holding off with that but. but they need to better flesh it out no half ways or do't put it the plot6 at all Examples the video tape bribery of Thea killing Sara or the side effect's of how the pits works the benefit's enhance strength agility bad results mad do reaction show it in full how differ cult is t6o subdue a person in that state the long term effect you have to live with for the rest of your live similar to when both Katana & Maeso lost their little boy . so no more short change's or as I said don't introduce the plot. if you can't fallow through then don't put in the first place.

the size of the cast( the actor save the show with their performance but only cause they are talented strived to push forward ) which proved the said or the actor's them selves aren't the issue it's just poor chose's script wise due to the writers that need to be remedied


So far they have been playing the weird avoid game or not to acknowledge things in a way that makes sense that part needs to be adjusted.


I'm Looking Towards next seaso & hope it will be better And I hope they the writers look back at this to find the mistakes this season to not be revisited. I hope the revise their mistakes from this season have a improved season 4 . That's what they should do.

 

[Justin]

Just watched the Slade fight. 'To beat me kid, you're gonna have to kill me. And in the moment of my death, you'll prove one thing. That you are... a murderer'.

Yep, that lasted one season

They really did undo almost everything they spent 2 years building up in regards to Oliver's character and journey. Also I don't understand how R'as was a bigger threat with his power than Merlyn would be.. I mean, until Sara got killed R'as just lived in Shadows and didn't really do anything. Where as Malcolm killed hundreds of people.

It... makes.. no.. sense.

 

[Nathan]

I really didn't like how Ra's was only concerned about his legacy. Like someone said before, Ra's has other irons in the fire. So while he wants Batman has his heir in the comics, that isn't his single goal. And he doesn't pursue him 24/7 when it doesn't work out. This Ra's was too single minded.

 

[SpideyVille]

I've been wanting to do a Post-Mortem of this season, so my question is, where do you guys think this season went wrong? Like at what point did everything start to fall off the rails.

I feel like it was somewhere in between episode 3 and 4. That started the whole League stuff where everything started to be inconsistent. Merlyn lies about killing Sara, Ra's states he doesn't care about Sara, only to want to avenge her a couple of episodes later. Olicity started to get in the way.

 

[Justin]

I've been wanting to do a Post-Mortem of this season, so my question is, where do you guys think this season went wrong? Like at what point did everything start to fall off the rails.

I feel like it was somewhere in between episode 3 and 4. That started the whole League stuff where everything started to be inconsistent. Merlyn lies about killing Sara, Ra's states he doesn't care about Sara, only to want to avenge her a couple of episodes later. Olicity started to get in the way.

It went wrong the moment they walked into a fully functional Arrow cave with all the Arrow equipment even though he'd been left with no nightclub and no money.

The way they went from S2 to S3 was terrible. Imagine S4 just starting up with Oliver in full Green Arrow suit and completely ignoring the end of this season. That's how S3's beginnings felt to me.

 

[Boy Scout]

It went wrong the moment they walked into a fully functional Arrow cave with all the Arrow equipment even though he'd been left with no nightclub and no money.

The way they went from S2 to S3 was terrible. Imagine S4 just starting up with Oliver in full Green Arrow suit and completely ignoring the end of this season. That's how S3's beginnings felt to me.

 

[Hunter Rider]

Seeing as though Oliver is getting on a ship with Coast City on it. Is it possible that the next hero we meet next year will be Hal Jordan in the flashback? GL maybe off limits but Hal Jordan whose to say.

Given the missing pilot from Coast City was also referenced in The Flash this week I could see Ollie hanging out with a pre-GL Hal Jordan in next seasons flashbacks.