Arrow Arrow General Discussion Thread - - - - - - Part 20

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Ra's will return he probably know more hive and darkh than what he told oliver.
I surprise oliver broke no kill rule to defeat him
 
Yeah I know, hopefully that means she'll be a regular in season 4. Is that Rila at the back in the 3rd pic, next to the guy doing the hand gesture?
To tell you the truth I 'm sure who that is . I might be off on if it's Rila or not who ever that is she's doing a goofy face.


oh snow queen answered lol wait ..... like I said I 'm off
 
:mrk: Yes please.

She's awesome and I think they can expand on her and Laurel's relationship and training.

To tell you the truth I 'm sure who that is . I might be off on if it's Rila or not who ever that is she's doing a goofy face oh snow queen answered like I said I was off

That's what makes it hard to tell as Rila is almost always looking serious.
 
I wouldn't mind Nyssa as a regular. She was a high point of the season for me.
 
Nyssa still needs to get her revenge on Malcon...
 
so replace John Barrowman with Katrina Law as a regular?

Or hold Barrowman for the second half of the season, let us get some fresh storylines for the S4. Having Malcon being a villain on the beginning of S4 would be too much I think.
 
^^ Isn't she Daniele who plays Caitlin on The Flash?
 
So, according to the Legends of Tomorrow trailer, Ollie's "retirement" won't last long. lol
 
Or hold Barrowman for the second half of the season, let us get some fresh storylines for the S4. Having Malcon being a villain on the beginning of S4 would be too much I think.
they'll be dealing with Damein D and Delayed consequences from Thea being in the pit, so they claim. what ever they do with Malcolm we'll see if he may used the league to help support team arrow if all of hive is after them.


yeah I'd rather the CBI (or spyral )an agency that support heroes instead of one that screws everyone over including there operatives & waller isn't part of but Roy's missing for now etc. so it might be for that. doesn't mean Malcolm won't be shady with it ether.
 
^^ Isn't she Daniele who plays Caitlin on The Flash?
lol that will be messed up if really can't tell them apart. which I should be able to. Women hate that unless they have a Identical twin , other wise there's no excuse.
 
ok I'm retract it's Nyssa comment it's likely the actress that plays Caitlin very likely.
 
So, according to the Legends of Tomorrow trailer, Ollie's "retirement" won't last long. lol

Well truth be told, with the announcement of the "Vixen" web series, I think that somewhat spoiled the fate of Oliver's "retirement" months in advance since that entity supposedly takes place after the events of Season 3.

Also, if we go by real time standards, given on how "Legends of Tomorrow" doesn't start until the beginning of 2016, I'm assuming that the Oliver we saw in that trailer has already experienced half of the events of the upcoming Season 4.

It's like how we saw the trailer for the Flash's pilot back in May 2014 and how it was revealed that Arrow's cameo in the pilot took place during the course of his own Season 3 premiere.
 
Of course Oliver is back he is the protector of Starling City and he can't walk away from that. I sure in Vixen he be back to fighting crime again
 
I think a specific point would be Oliver coming back right at the end of episode 10. No Lazarus, no nothing. Really cheapened his death, as episode 9 was one of the best of the show.

And like I said in the ep 23 thread, the whole season could've been brilliant if they didn't have him come back to Starling for 4-5 episodes and then go off again to become Al Sahim. The thing to do would've been that Ra's discovers Oliver to still be alive and then, impressed, starts to groom and brainwash him. Ollie realizes that he can use this to destroy the LOA from the inside. Then, Team Arrow sees a guy they thought was dead come back as their enemy.

I had a similar idea, however I would have had Ra's kill Oliver, but resurrect him via a Lazarus Pit. He saves him because he admires Oliver's courage and then he brainwashes Oliver to serve the League. So Oliver becomes the threat to the city and it's all about Team Arrow reeling over having to fight him and then working together to try to rescue and redeem him.
 
This show needs a pretty massive overhaul in the Show-Runner department at this point. The writing on the storylines and dialogue level was horrendous this season. They need a Director that can bring the best out of these actors, because right now it's pretty bad and I don't think it's entirely because of the actor's lack of talent. I don't think any of the actor's are particularly good but I think the people running the show are making them seem even more mediocre than they already are inherently.

What I mean by that, is that they seem to instruct these actors in ways that make them look ridiculous, like the overemphasis on one-liners and speeches. And not just that there are SO many one liners or speeches, but the delivery of their dialogue during these one-liners and speeches. I honestly think they encourage them to be over the top which leads to many moments of really cheesy deliveries of really terribly written dialogue. Most of the conversations, one-liners and speeches are so overdone and unnatural. It seems that no conversation is ever realistic or well developed. So many conversations end in abrupt, random ways without accomplishing much of anything concerning the topic at hand. People just don't talk like these characters talk half of the time and the constant repetitive beating of deadhorse dialogue is becoming intolerable. If I hear "You failed this City", "I started this crusade", "I/you had to become someone else, something else", "Save Starling" or any of the other beaten to death dialogue points again I might throw my TV out of the window.

The plot for this season was so illogical that I just couldn't really care less what happened. Oliver's decision making during this season made absolutely no sense what so ever, particularly when it came to decisions about Merlyn. Not a single decision he made with regards to Merlyn made even the tiniest bit of sense. Ra's decision making wasn't far behind, his entire storyline was just illogical and underwhelming.

Felicity and Diggle were never characters I cared for to begin with, but man, they have become incredibly annoying this season. Neither of them do anything other than whine and complain about Oliver, while Oliver's decision making was completely ridiculous and deserving of questioning the constant lecturing and whining they do is extremely tiresome. Honestly I wish this show had never introduced them to begin with and focused on Oliver, Dinah, Roy, Thea and Lance. Felicity and Diggle get far too much screen time and it leaves very little screen time for the rest, particularly Dinah and Roy who should be the #2 and #3 characters on the show and are much more interesting characters than Felicity and Diggle ever could be if they were actually written properly. And I won't even bother going into how the Oliver/Felicity romance has damaged the show, that's just a complete and utter disaster on every level.

The directors have really written themselves into another corner as well with the Arrow identity and the only way to fix it is to add another illogical plot for how he'll be able to work in Star City again as the Arrow.

Whoever at Warner Brothers is in charge of overseeing this show really needs to get off his ass. This show needs a completely new writing team in my opinion. The amount of illogical contrivances and poorly written dialogue is making me consider giving up on this show. Which really sucks because Green Arrow is one of my favorite DC characters and it doesn't appear he'll be showing up in the movies anytime soon. I really want to like this show, but this season was just flat out bad.

(and yes, I still refuse to use the terms Laurel or Starling, incredibly horrible, unnecessary changes)
 
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