Arrow Arrow General Discussion Thread - - - - - - - - - - Part 24

[Primal Slayer]

 

[Dr Lee]

.... Huh?

 

[Primal Slayer]

That's where they are filming right now. At Sara's grave.

 

[Dr Lee]

Arrow are filming at Sara's grave? Why would the team be going back to Sara's grave? Flashback to something?

 

[Arrowshieldfan]

That hard to say it could mean anything....I pretty sure they don't want anyone to spoil who in the grave scene.

Edit
we have episode 19 writer/director but title is unknown

 

[Primal Slayer]

It is either a flashback or they are buring a Lance.

It's like a greatest hits with Nyssa and Dinah both coming back for this episode.

 

[Arrowshieldfan]

I already guess the title of the episode.....

Spoiler

Aftermath

 

[mr. peasant]

It is either a flashback or they are buring a Lance.

It's like a greatest hits with Nyssa and Dinah both coming back for this episode.

In which case, my biggest worry is that the one that dies is Laurel. Nyssa would have less motivation if it was Quentin who was killed. Moreover, from a BTS perspective, killing off Laurel would cement the Olicity ship that the showrunners favour.

 

[Arrowshieldfan]

I predict the rating will suffer if Laurel dies. She may not have a big fanbase but killing off BC a major comic character to give social media their dream pairing is bad.

 

[Jedi Arrow]

I'm slightly afraid for Laurel too but I'm growing more and more certain it's Lance. Think back to how many times this season Oliver's said "I'm trying to fight in the light because of you" or something of that effect to Lance. It's been very subtle, but they've been developing Oliver's relationship with Lance in a gradual but very real way this season. Bring Donna in too, and you've got a whole lot more attention given to him than usual. It'll be Lance.

Hypothetically, though, if it's Laurel, they've just made a huge mistake and only to please a vocal minority who push for Olicity and hate Laurel. Guggenheim will have lost a good deal of my trust if that happens. But I don't think it will be. If you think back to S1 and S2, Felicity and Lance were also close. If it's him, that would explain her anger in the limo.

 

[Dr Lee]

Could it be they're using the prop of Sara's gravestone & CGI'ing over the top with who's actually dead in an attempt to keep it a secret?

 

[DeadFan]

I predict the rating will suffer if Laurel dies. She may not have a big fanbase but killing off BC a major comic character to give social media their dream pairing is bad.

I would feel like they just spit on the idea of the BC and all she stood for, and did that after having sidelined her and not given her any major story arcs, in favor of giving that time to an IT tech character who didn't even merit enough time in first season to get a backstory. It's not about BC dating GA for me, it's about honoring what BC means. If they couldn't treat the character right, too bad DC let them have her in the first place and their killing her off would just confirm they didn't have the decency to appreciate the character and what they had. It feels like they would be showing contempt for the character and contempt for BC fans.

 

[O'Haire]

It will suck if it's Laurel. She went from someone I couldn't really stand, to one of the few reasons I still even watch the show.

 

[SpideyVille]

It's the CW, where older characters are killed off to make room for more younger talent. So odd are, it's Quentin. Besides, there's no way they're killing a major comic character.

With that said, are they still filming that flashback episode? Regardless, it makes me think it's Quentin the same way Moira had her flashback before her death.

 

[Avenging Angel]

Laurel being in the grave will plummet the show, it's already suffering from the residuals of season 3. It was just starting to get better. This'll be hard to watch. Appeasing Olicity over a more than productive character. Pfft, Marc really has bitten off more than he can chew.

 

[SpideyVille]

I'm slightly afraid for Laurel too but I'm growing more and more certain it's Lance. Think back to how many times this season Oliver's said "I'm trying to fight in the light because of you" or something of that effect to Lance. It's been very subtle, but they've been developing Oliver's relationship with Lance in a gradual but very real way this season. Bring Donna in too, and you've got a whole lot more attention given to him than usual. It'll be Lance.

Hypothetically, though, if it's Laurel, they've just made a huge mistake and only to please a vocal minority who push for Olicity and hate Laurel. Guggenheim will have lost a good deal of my trust if that happens. But I don't think it will be. If you think back to S1 and S2, Felicity and Lance were also close. If it's him, that would explain her anger in the limo.

I feel like the foreshadowing has been super evident with Lance. Never in our wildest dreams would Lance and Oliver get along, but this season, she's been like a trusted father figure. Plus, Lance is finally getting laid. Too many good things happening that won't last.

 

[Nathan]

I would feel like they just spit on the idea of the BC and all she stood for, and did that after having sidelined her and not given her any major story arcs, in favor of giving that time to an IT tech character who didn't even merit enough time in first season to get a backstory. It's not about BC dating GA for me, it's about honoring what BC means. If they couldn't treat the character right, too bad DC let them have her in the first place and their killing her off would just confirm they didn't have the decency to appreciate the character and what they had. It feels like they would be showing contempt for the character and contempt for BC fans.

Thing is, they did create a great Canary. Then unfortunately had to kill her off, simply because she didn't have the right name. Sure, the plan always was for Laurel to the be true Black Canary, but obviously that didn't work out, for a number of reasons. Eventually, she did get to don the black suit, and that feels like it only happened, because it was a contractual obligation, and not because this path was their vision all along.

 

[Jedi Arrow]

It's the CW, where older characters are killed off to make room for more younger talent. So odd are, it's Quentin. Besides, there's no way they're killing a major comic character.

With that said, are they still filming that flashback episode? Regardless, it makes me think it's Quentin the same way Moira had her flashback before her death.

Yeah, the flashback thing indicates that it'll be Quentin. Ever since I heard it, I figured it'd be him because they did the same with Moira. Her flashbacks also introduced Samantha, kicking off a plot point that wouldn't be relevant for two more seasons. Wonder if they'd do the same thing here?

If they do kill Quentin then I wonder if they'll replace him in S5 with a new police captain? It might be nice to have a new main character (aside from Curtis, who I'd like for them to keep around) who doesn't know that Oliver is Green Arrow.

Hey, it'll never happen, but bring back McKenna from S1. She was a good character and she doesn't know Oliver is GA, but she does have history with Oliver. She's an experienced cop, so put her in Quentin's place. If you have her and Curtis as normal (semi-normal, in Curtis' case, due to him being a tech genius) characters, I think some of the show's old feel would return. Of course they'd both probably find out sooner or later, but...it literally took Diggle three episodes, so it's not like it tends to stay a secret long.

 

[Hunter Rider]

I see pitchforks are out for something that hasn't even happened. If it is Laurel has anyone actually stopped to think it might have come from above? There was talk a little while ago that WB wanted to make a BoP movie and we've seen what happened to Deadshot and Waller now they are in SS, and Deathstroke is also off limits due to the DCCU.

 

[Jedi Arrow]

I see pitchforks are out for something that hasn't even happened. If it is Laurel has anyone actually stopped to think it might have come from above? There was talk a little while ago that WB wanted to make a BoP movie and we've seen what happened to Deadshot and Waller now they are in SS, and Deathstroke is also off limits due to the DCCU.

You're right, there is a lot of unnecessary backlash, but no, I don't think they'll kill her off and I don't think it would be for DCCU if they did. Flash is going to be used in the movies and they're not killing Barry off. Why? He's the main character of his show. Laurel is one of the main characters in this show. They won't kill her off for that reason like they did Deadshot and Waller.

 

[Hunter Rider]

You're right, there is a lot of unnecessary backlash, but no, I don't think they'll kill her off and I don't think it would be for DCCU if they did. Flash is going to be used in the movies and they're not killing Barry off. Why? He's the main character of his show. Laurel is one of the main characters in this show. They won't kill her off for that reason like they did Deadshot and Waller.

Personally I very much doubt it's Laurel either but I think the key difference is simply business. They can't kill Barry off without cutting a revenue stream for one of their star properties, they can kill Laurel off and keep Arrow going.

 

[Arrowshieldfan]

They already killed a major comic character Amanda waller so are they going kill another? in the same year?

Laurel and Lance are too obvious and don't bring that shock factor

I think they could 360 and kill someone who we don't expect?

 

[O'Haire]

I'm personally hoping for Donna. She is the worst.

 

[Paradox1]

They can kill whoever they want outside of Thea and Laurel. They've been down this road with them too many times. I mean god damnit another Lance daughter or the alternative Thea who Nearly died last season.

 

[AspieXLDS]

One thing we need to take into account is that "Arrow" is in a shared universe now... which means things that happen in the other shows can foreshadow or affect events on "Arrow". In this case, I'm speaking of how things are playing out on "Legends of Tomorrow". Sara is growing as a character, becoming more heroic and more like her sister became. If they do kill Laurel (and the fact that they're now doing flashbacks for Laurel, with Quentin having flashbacks for Episode 18 makes it uncertain which Lance is in the grave), Sara is still partially based on the Black Canary figure, despite sharing a name with a villain from the comics. And, as far as Laurel has come, fan backlash saw them resurrect Sara; she could slip into Laurel's spot in Season 5, using the name White Canary still.

Now, me, I honestly hope I'm wrong because I've really enjoyed Laurel's overall arc; but the way they've handled the character, plus the way fans react to her for the most part (at least those fans that seem to matter), makes it a possibility.