Arrow Arrow General Discussion Thread - Part 5

[Tec15]

Um, they had a Flash show in the 90's that did just fine. Technology has advanced since then.

Highly, debatable on "doing just fine". I guess we'll see, but I don't feel optimistic.

 

[gohei_]

I have not read the spoilers but I can figure out what's the deal and I don't mind it. I'm not a big fan of recasting though but we'll see how it turns out.

 

[Herolee10]

China White and More will Return

Oliver Queen may have plenty of new enemies in "Arrow" Season 2, but at least one old foe will make a return: China White (Kelly Hu) will return to the superhero series in the second episode of the season.

"Arrow" executive producer Marc Guggenheim confirmed the return of the Triad assassin at the TCA press tour in Los Angeles on Monday (July 29). While he didn't give too many details about how China White will fit back into the show's world, Guggenheim did give a little bit of context about the appearance.

"Kelly Hu is absolutely coming back. She comes back in episode 2," Guggenheim said. "She not only comes back, but we were dead-set on not just bringing back China White, but bringing back China White and showing her in a new way and with a new dimension than just what we did last year. There's no point in bringing her back, just to repeat same-old, same-old. We do one new scene where you go, 'Ooh! That's a China White we didn't see last year.'"

While Hu's China White is the only confirmed Season 1 villain to make more trouble, fans can expect other old foes to reappear in the second season. "Part of the enjoyment of Season 2 for us is how do you combine the old -- not the old -- but the Season 1 villains with the new Season 2 villains," Guggenheim hinted. "That's part of the fun of the show. It's part of the fun of any superhero show. The superhero mythos, the rogues' gallery. I think we've done a fairly okay job of rounding out his rogues' gallery, and it's about building onto that in Season 2."

What about the ultimate Season 1 villain, Malcolm Merlyn? Will he be back -- remember, the audience never saw Malcolm's body after Oliver beat him in the season finale. While Guggenheim wouldn't give too many details, John Barrowman will definitely return to the show in some form.

"We've confirmed that John Barrowman is coming back," said Guggenheim. But then the producer added, "We are a show that does flashbacks."

The one detail Guggenheim did give about Malcolm Merlyn's return is that he will be interacting with Oliver. "I don't think it's spoiling anything to say that John Barrowman's scenes will be with Stephen [Amell]," Marc Guggenheim hinted.

The question is: Will Oliver and Malcolm interact in the show's present or in the past? Only "Arrow" Season 2 holds the answers to that.

Source: http://blog.zap2it.com/frominsideth...poilers-china-white-and-more-will-return.html

 

[dsfjr1190]

John Barrowman is coming back? Awesome!

Since they are introducing powers, maybe the Lazarus Pit isn't too far behind.

 

[John Locke]

Maybe but Flash won't get powers until episode 20 so we've still got a long time till then.

 

[Herolee10]

I feel like with the introduction of the likes of the Flash and even potentially Green Lantern somewhere down the line the show, it’ll just add the amount of times of people asking on why we can get these so called “supers” appearing frequently and yet can’t get the any members of the trinity to appear on the show.

Personally, I think it would have been better to stay within the reality based world that Season 1 presented rather than branching out to the larger DC universe where people having powers is a frequent thing.

And the thing is though, most of these heroes, even Green Lantern, aren’t they leagues above Oliver in terms of what they can do and the threats that they’ve faced on their own?

 

[Frico]

More Kelly Hu is always a win and it'll be interesting to see how they use Merlyn after last season.

Season 2, I am ready for thee.

 

[Loki882]

If Malcolm's mysterious mentor on Nanda Parbat was Ra's or Vandal Savage, there's his way back right there.

 

[DrDoom]

The way the Flash uses speed should look and work differently than they do with Faora or any other krypotonian. I always thought the speed force was a pretty cool concept and I hope they can use that in a fresh but familiar way.

From his perspective, sure it could look different. But to the outside observer, I think it resembling MOS speed makes sense.

Faora would stop and take out each soldier, I hope they portray Flash differently.

I love how he keeps moving while punching them multiple times, he doesnt have super-strength like Faora so his fighting is more about multiple strikes instead of one or two powerful ones

 

[Herolee10]

If Malcolm's mysterious mentor on Nanda Parbat was Ra's or Vandal Savage, there's his way back right there.

I believe the showrunners said that it was, from their minds at least, Ra's Al Ghul that Malcom was talking about but due to copyright reasons, they can't legally say his name due to the film division.

 

[vantheman77]

Glad to hear that both Malcolm Merlyn and China White will return for the 2nd season.

I think the 2nd season will be better than the 1st season.

 

[protocida]

I believe one of the producers had previously confirmed that Malcolm is dead, but both him and Tommy would appear in flashbacks.

 

[Sawyer]

Well they don't want to show all their cards before the season has even started...

 

[TheUnknownX]

Don't know how to feel about this. I don't think that TV budgets can do justice to the special effects needed to portray Flash's super speed. TV is really more suited for street level heroes like Green Arrow, so I would rather that Flash had his rumored movie in 2016 instead. (What happens to that now BTW?)

Supernatural had some decent "speed" special effects. I think they' can manage.

 

[BatsDC]

If you ever wondered how Oliver’s island existence, seen in flashback, could have been any worse, here’s a short answer for you: pirates.

TVLine

 

[Herolee10]

I guess Oliver better star memorizing to say the word "Parlay" every now and then...

 

[Artistsean]

The direction I want to see the show go into is having Oliver start bonding more with his sister over combat and archery training. He finally reveals what happened to him on the island. This could even come after she and her boyfriend Roy finally find the vigilante Green Arrow and Roy starts working for him and she eventually finds out its Oliver.
I also want Laurel to move more towards becoming a vigilante, but still slowly.

I want Felicity, Diggle, and Roy, to become Oliver's team. Leading to a more high tech Arrow Cave, higher tech armor and goggles (and a fake goatee like Green Arrow has in the comics), and non lethal weapons like flash grenade arrows, taser arrows, net arrows, eletco magnetic pulse arrows, etc.

If Flash does guest on the show that means they will bring in super powers and super powered criminals. I don't know what to think about this, because Oliver could barely stop Merlin. How will he stop a super powered criminal?

Also I am real curious how they will explain how Slade goes from being such a good guy, who may be gruff and acts like he is out for himself but seems good at heart really, to being a merciless mercenary out for blood and money in the end? And how does he become enemies with Oliver? Olive had Slade's mask on a spear on the island. How does their friendship go wrong? And what happened to Slade and the young woman who end up not being on the island when Oliver is rescued?

Also I want Oliver to become more political, start calling people Fat Cats and talking about protests and such. Just update what he was in the 70s for today. Make him someone who is an activist.

I also want to see Oliver, after the end of Season 1, decide his new mission is to stop criminals at all levels not just the fat cats. This could help him decide on non lethal weapons as well, and could have him struggle because he thought he was giving up the vigilante life and choosing to be with Laurel, but then seeing how he was still needed.

GREEN Arrows team:

John Diggle, Oliver's partner and connection to the Government/military.
He gives Oliver someone on the inside of Government agencies like Black Hawk.

Felicity Smaoke, Oliver's technical support and inventor or converter of Non-Lethal Weapons.

Roy Harper could be his connection/inside man on
the streets. Like Diggle helping Oliver know whats
going on in Government Agencies, Roy could help
him know what is going on on the streets. As well
as be a weapons connection and his apprentice of sorts.

These are very simplistic job descriptions, but it sort of gives an idea what they could do in the show.

 

[DrDoom]

They need to translate the Super Max script into an entire season later on

 

[mr. peasant]

They need to translate the Super Max script into an entire season later on

How would it be that different from the Island storyline? Anything they can do with the Super Max concept, they could probably replicate with the Island.

 

[Paradox1]

So element man/metamorpho may make an appearance on the show this season at least hinted at.

 

[Compi716]

How would it be that different from the Island storyline? Anything they can do with the Super Max concept, they could probably replicate with the Island.

Except the constantly shifting prison, Dinah trying to prove Oliver's innocence from the outside, and the wide assortment of crazy supervillains for Oliver to face.

It could be AMAZING.

 

[vantheman77]

Just like Clark Kent and Chloe Sullivan were the heart of Smallville, the same applies to Oliver Queen and Felicity Smoak for being the heart of Arrow.

 

[Loki882]

Diggle, Slade, and Shado aren't exactly chopped liver. Speaking of Shado, let the island romance begin (we know its coming). It could lead to Connor Hawke.

 

[S. Grundy]

Except the constantly shifting prison, Dinah trying to prove Oliver's innocence from the outside, and the wide assortment of crazy supervillains for Oliver to face.

It could be AMAZING.

Therein lies the rub. This version of Green Arrow has murdered people, and it's been premeditated murder at that. So any reason for him to be in prison is, frankly justified.

 

[Lencho01]

Coming to Season 2...

http://comicsalliance.com/metamorpho-van-arrow/