Arrow Arrow General Discussion Thread - Part 6

[slumcat]

By the way, Stephen Amell just posted this.

https://***********/amellywood/status/387235968568139776

Dunno whether serious or joking but I think Amell is nut enough to be able to do it.

 

[Ryder]

My theories:

Slade doesn't strike as someone to get jealous over a women. He may disapprove more as a practical matter.

Slade has a wife and a son in this show as well.

 

[DrRocket]

Slade has a wife and a son in this show as well.

Yeah, but dude can YOU imagine going without sex for 5 years, who knows what you would do to release sexual frustration, some people would start making love to trees.

From the promo, it looks like Oliver is still killing people, just hope he doesn't stop and becomes a wussy like Batman. I like the idea of the copycats ( TDK ) and I wonder how Oliver wil deal with them, also would love Oliver to start shooting the less bad guys in the knees, that would be truly EPIC!

 

[gohei_]

By the way, Stephen Amell just posted this.

https://***********/amellywood/status/387235968568139776

Dunno whether serious or joking but I think Amell is nut enough to be able to do it.

Haha, that's pretty crazy.
But lets say he splits it up over say 12 hours that's only something like 150 pushups/hour. Not an insane amount but still pretty much, and time-consuming.

 

[regnak]

My theories:

Either he uses a "trick" arrow (maybe smoke or knockout gas) or someone comes to help him (Black Canary, Diggle, Roy, etc).

If you pause the video just right around the 45 second mark you can see a black clad woman facing away from some cops who are holding their ears while glass shatters. My theory is that the canary has some sort of sonic grenade instead of a cry and uses that to help Oliver.


Also I think Laurel's boss is a scum bag at best and a minion of Brother Blood at worst. Why else would he be bashing Oliver who is charged with nothing? And this hunt for the Hood if he is the driving force behind it, well suspicions increase.

 

[Hunter Rider]

The new promo is awesome, was the hooded guy with the mask and machine gun one of the copycats? It's also interesting to see how Laurel has became her father.

Some of the action like Ollie firing his bow while on the bike and that jump out of one window down to the next floor looks fantastic!

 

[Loki882]

The new promo is awesome, was the hooded guy with the mask and machine gun one of the copycats? It's also interesting to see how Laurel has became her father.

Some of the action like Ollie firing his bow while on the bike and that jump out of one window down to the next floor looks fantastic!

Yes, Laurel is now obsessed with catching the Hood like her dad was in season 1, and now he seems to have had a change of heart. It's a role reversal that should be interesting to see.

 

[DrRocket]

If you pause the video just right around the 45 second mark you can see a black clad woman facing away from some cops who are holding their ears while glass shatters. My theory is that the canary has some sort of sonic grenade instead of a cry and uses that to help Oliver.


Also I think Laurel's boss is a scum bag at best and a minion of Brother Blood at worst. Why else would he be bashing Oliver who is charged with nothing? And this hunt for the Hood if he is the driving force behind it, well suspicions increase.

Wow, nice catch, I paused it and took a screen shot. Not sure how to upload it,
Yeah she is holding something in her hand and it does look like BC

 

[Gee]

Yeah, but dude can YOU imagine going without sex for 5 years, who knows what you would do to release sexual frustration, some people would start making love to trees.

From the promo, it looks like Oliver is still killing people, just hope he doesn't stop and becomes a wussy like Batman. I like the idea of the copycats ( TDK ) and I wonder how Oliver wil deal with them, also would love Oliver to start shooting the less bad guys in the knees, that would be truly EPIC!

 

[Loki882]

Batman and wussy are two words that should NEVER appear in the same sentence, unless its proceeded by "as far from as possible."

 

[Broseph44]

Yeah seriously Batman a wussy? Dunno wtf you're talkin about.

 

[Bathead]

Yeah seriously Batman a wussy? Dunno wtf you're talkin about.

He's saying he's a wussy cuz he doesn't kill people? I would think it's the exact opposite. Anybody who goes around killing all the bad guys is the wussy, as it's the easy way out. Protagonists like the Punisher are the wussies. And, TBH, that was one thing I was kind of upset bout this 1st season, it seemed Oliver was way too quick and easy about killing the bad guys. Hopefully, that will change.

 

[Loki882]

No, The Punisher is by no means a wuss either. His actions make sense given his established character (a former Marine fighting a war on crime, of course he would kill his enemies). I actually dislike the whole "no killing rule" Well, not the whole rule. I do think that some characters (like Batma for instance) should not kill. However, I reject the idea that NO superhero can kill, which some people like to argue for. I have no problem with Wolverine, or Black Widow, or Wonder Woman, or Captain America, or Green Arrow, or others killing because it fits their character. I'm even ok with Superman killing in certain extremely rare circumstances. It should be a case by case/character by character thing.

 

[slumcat]

Haha, that's pretty crazy.
But lets say he splits it up over say 12 hours that's only something like 150 pushups/hour. Not an insane amount but still pretty much, and time-consuming.

Yeah, its a lot. He's still filming right!

 

[DrRocket]

You know what I've noticed? Nobody panics when things go "according to plan." Even if the plan is horrifying! If, tomorrow, I tell the press that, like, a gang banger will get shot, or a truckload of soldiers will be blown up, nobody panics, because it's all "part of the plan". But when I say that one little old Batman is a wussy, well then everyone loses their minds!

He doesn't kill people, because he is scared that if he did he couldn't stop, kinda weak willed. If he killed the Joker, batman's girl friend would be alive and Harvey dent, some
Copycats, some civilians and generally the crime rate would be down.

Peace, Yo!

 

[Charlie Boy]

Shut up.

 

[DrRocket]

Shut up.

Eeek, looks like I hurt your fragile feelings, and no I won't shut up, this is a place where discussions are held, I guess you were not smart enough to figure that out.

 

[Charlie Boy]

Nah, you didn't hurt my feelings, I just rather you shut up. But I suppose trollers gotta troll.

 

[DrRocket]

Nah, you didn't hurt my feelings, I just rather you shut up. But I suppose trollers gotta troll.

Charlie, my boy,
This is a place where we have discussions, do you know what a discussion is? If not, I can teach you, rather late then never.

 

[Scarlettess]

You know what I've noticed? Nobody panics when things go "according to plan." Even if the plan is horrifying! If, tomorrow, I tell the press that, like, a gang banger will get shot, or a truckload of soldiers will be blown up, nobody panics, because it's all "part of the plan". But when I say that one little old Batman is a wussy, well then everyone loses their minds!

He doesn't kill people, because he is scared that if he did he couldn't stop, kinda weak willed. If he killed the Joker, batman's girl friend would be alive and Harvey dent, some
Copycats, some civilians and generally the crime rate would be down.

Peace, Yo!

Hardly. You have to understand that Batman is depicted as the monster of Bruces psyche, there's a line that he doesn't cross to keep himself sane and keep the 'monster' contained to a degree. It's also his moral compass, he believes that by not killing, that's the difference between him and the criminals, once that goes, then what makes him any more of a better person than them? 'I'm not an executioner'.

Not saying I necesarily agree with a fictional characters moral compass, I have my own, but that's Batman.

Edit: nice spin on the Jokers speech from TDK. Did make me giggle.

 

[DrRocket]

Hardly. You have to understand that Batman is depicted as the monster of Bruces psyche, there's a line that he doesn't cross to keep himself sane and keep the 'monster' contained to a degree. It's also his moral compass, he believes that by not killing, that's the difference between him and the criminals, once that goes, then what makes him any more of a better person than them? 'I'm not an executioner'.

Not saying I necesarily agree with a fictional characters moral compass, I have my own, but that's Batman.

Edit: nice spin on the Jokers speech from TDK. Did make me giggle.

That makes more sense, but while his enemies kill innocent people, batman would be targeting the worse kinds of people, still, that's why I like Arrow and iron man, because they are willing to kill for the greater good, and of course because they don't actually have superpowers.

 

[Scarlettess]

That makes more sense, but while his enemies kill innocent people, batman would be targeting the worse kinds of people, still, that's why I like Arrow and iron man, because they are willing to kill for the greater good, and of course because they don't actually have superpowers.

Yeah, I get what you mean. I think it's more of, he'd know that, but would the people of Gotham? most likely they would view him as a murderer which is the opposite of what he wants. He wants to be a symbol for good and initiate change, if you want to be that you have to go all the way, there's no middle ground.

I prefer heroes who don't kill, unless they absolutely have to. That's why I like Spider-Man and Batman.

 

[DrRocket]

Yeah, I get what you mean. I think it's more of, he'd know that, but would the people of Gotham? most likely they would view him as a murderer which is the opposite of what he wants. He wants to be a symbol for good and initiate change, if you want to be that you have to go all the way, there's no middle ground.

I prefer heroes who don't kill, unless they absolutely have to. That's why I like Spider-Man and Batman.

I see your point, some superheroes want to become symbols of hope and I get that to do that, you can't kill, but can the people of Gotham really change? Isn't Gotham still more or less the same since batman first appeared?

All I hope is that Oliver doesn't stop killing, imagine if he didn't kill Merlyn or deal with vertigo and all the other mob bosses and what not, thousands more people would have died. In the new promo, he says when he puts on the good, its kill or be killed, so I hope he stays killing.

P.s spider man is cool, one of my favourite marvel Heros.

 

[Krumm]

I see your point, some superheroes want to become symbols of hope and I get that to do that, you can't kill, but can the people of Gotham really change? Isn't Gotham still more or less the same since batman first appeared?

All I hope is that Oliver doesn't stop killing, imagine if he didn't kill Merlyn or deal with vertigo and all the other mob bosses and what not, thousands more people would have died. In the new promo, he says when he puts on the good, its kill or be killed, so I hope he stays killing.

P.s spider man is cool, one of my favourite marvel Heros.

I wouldn't count Merlyn out just yet...

 

[protocida]

Merlyn is dead.