Arrow Arrow General Discussion Thread - Part 7

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I think it is pretty obvious why he still wears some makeup with the mask, it doesn't cover enough of his eye area so it would look weird if he didn't have the makeup to cover up the under eyes.
 
Exactly, that's why Batman's always done it in the movies. I really dig the mask. Plus its much more practical and safer than painting your eye-lids green everytime you want to suit up.
 
Love the mask! Love the progression of Ollie... Maybe he will get the goatee somewhere down the line. :D
 
It wasn't so much the make up that bothered me it, was the fact that every time he took his hood off the make up was magically gone. Plus it seemed like a huge waste of time to paint your eyes while crime needed to be stopped.

So the mask is a big improvement and I'm happy that he finally got one.
 
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I expected something a bit more high tech but I like it.
 
^ id like him to wear those goggles he wears in the new 52
 
Turns out someone will give Oliver the mask and it will be a big plot point.
 

Looks like I guessed right in thinking it would look something like the mask he wore in the Brave & the Bold toon.

So, instead of a domino mask like Robin in the Shumacher films or Huntress and Canary on this show, it seems to go all around his head. Interesting that they didn't leave as much space for the makeup like those masks usually do.
 
http://insidetv.ew.com/2013/11/19/arrow-oliver-mask-photos/

'Arrow' gives Oliver Queen's alter-ego a mask -- EXCLUSIVE PHOTOS

By Sandra Gonzalez on Nov 19, 2013 at 12:00PM https://***********/images/resources/twitter-bird-16x16.png @EWSandraG

Oliver Queen will soon be a masked hero.

EW has your exclusive first look at Arrow’s brand new mask, which will make its debut on the show come December. But why the change? According to executive producer Andrew Kreisberg, the answer is multi-faceted. ”Conceptually, it was something we wanted to do because Oliver himself is evolving as the Arrow– from vigilante to hero, sort of from Arrow to Green Arrow — and we wanted to see that progression in his costume as well,” he said. “As Oliver is embracing being a hero, being a hero means stepping out of the dark and being more of a symbol, so he has to take steps to conceal his identity more.”

Adding a mask also comes with logistical benefits, he said. In the second season, Oliver has found himself working much more closely with several people who don’t know his true identity — like Laurel’s father Det. Lance, for example — and it was getting harder and harder to believably hide Oliver’s face under the hood. “It’s going to allow the Arrow to interact with people who don’t know his identity in a much more organic way than having him constantly keep his head down,” says Kreisberg.

Costume designer Maya Mani put together roughly 50 mask options for the producers before they landed on the dark green design you see in these exclusive photos. Kreisberg credits exec producer Greg Berlanti for steering them toward simplicity. “A lot of our early attempts were very, shall I say, Joel Schumacher-esque. And it was really Greg who said not to overcomplicate it,” he said. “And I think what’s so wonderful about the design that Maya came up with is that it really is very simple, and it feels as if it’s been part of his costume since the beginning…once we finally had this mask and put it on Stephen [Amell], even Stephen was like, ‘This is the right one.’”

The Arrow team has flirted with the idea of a mask since the pilot, Kreisberg reveals, but at that moment, there were time constraints and concerns about putting a masked hero before a new audience. ”For all of the work that went into creating his mask, those are all the reasons we didn’t do it when we did the pilot,” he said, “and also, sometimes, people have this knee-jerk reaction to seeing somebody in a mask. ‘Oh, that’s silly.’ But I think that now that people see how serious the show is and how grounded it is, the mask is going to feel like a natural evolution.”

The mask addition will be seen in the Dec. 11 episode of Arrow, and the change will be addressed on-screen, says Kreisberg. “He doesn’t just put on a mask. It’s actually a big plot point in an episode, and there really is a story behind, not only the need for the mask but also who provides him with it,” he says. “It’s going to be a little bit of a surprise, and once they see how the mask comes into creation, I think people will be really excited about it.”
 
Nice to see them moving forward with Ollie. :word:

If we wanted something more realistic so no one recognizes Oliver, they would have to cover his face a la movie Winter Soldier:

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I wouldn't mind since it would make sense, but as long as he has the hood covering his head (plus the mask), it's believable enough.
 
This is long overdue.I guess Ollie won't have to stare at the ground when addressing people while in costume anymore.:woot:
 
I understand, but what I mean is that you have to tell your self that in Comicbook/TV Land it absolutely DOES conceal his identity. That's the part you have to suspend your disbelief for.

You basically have to tell yourself, "Screw it, I'll play along, NO ONE can tell it's Ollie now because of the mask."

Even though you know that in the real world people probably would know it was him. If all of this was real, but it's not. If they had a mugshot up on CNN with the mask on people would recognize him.

But in the rules of Arrow the T.V. show you have to play along a little.

Exactly.That's why I don't understand why people don't get the same concept for Clark Kent,but that's another topic....
 
I was hoping the mask would be wider, but that looks good. :up:
 
Watch Detective Lance be the one who gives him the mask lol
 
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It wasn't so much the make up that bothered me it, was the fact that every time he took his hood off the make up was magically gone. Plus it seemed like a huge waste of time to paint your eyes while crime needed to be stopped.

So the mask is a big improvement and I'm happy that he finally got one.
That's what bothered me too. I didn't mind the make-up, but there were so many scenes where he would take off the hood and nothing would be there and it just made things look inconsistent.

^ id like him to wear those goggles he wears in the new 52
Did they base that look after the Smallville version, because I was a big fan of the sunglasses look that they went with there.
 
That's what bothered me too. I didn't mind the make-up, but there were so many scenes where he would take off the hood and nothing would be there and it just made things look inconsistent.


Did they base that look after the Smallville version, because I was a big fan of the sunglasses look that they went with there.

Nowhere near as bad as in The Trial of the Incredible Hulk where Banner had a beard. When he transformed into the Hulk it magically disappeared, and when he changed back it reappeared. :oldrazz:
 
Nowhere near as bad as in The Trial of the Incredible Hulk where Banner had a beard. When he transformed into the Hulk it magically disappeared, and when he changed back it reappeared. :oldrazz:

And yet, that part was the LEAST disturbing part of that particular movie...
 
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