The Amazing Spider-Man ASM: Stuff You Didn't Like Thread

[Matt]

One huge problem that I had is that I never really felt Spider-Man's presence. He was there, but no one outside of the main characters and a crane worker really seemed to care. Raimi's films, for better or worse, showed the world's reactions to a guy in spandex swinging through Manhattan stopping crimes. It is a game changer and should be treated as such. This movie needed something like that. The impact should've been felt in the world. Same with the Lizard. A giant Lizard rampaged across the Brooklyn Bridge and no one at all seemed to mind. Is this common fare in the world of TASM? These should be huge events.

This is why it was a bad call to cut JJJ. His indignation, skepticism and shock reflect the feelings throughout the city. It gives the viewer a character through whom the eyes of, they can see the world's reaction to Spider-Man.

 

[El Payaso]

One huge problem that I had is that I never really felt Spider-Man's presence. He was there, but no one outside of the main characters and a crane worker really seemed to care. Raimi's films, for better or worse, showed the world's reactions to a guy in spandex swinging through Manhattan stopping crimes. It is a game changer and should be treated as such. This movie needed something like that. The impact should've been felt in the world. Same with the Lizard. A giant Lizard rampaged across the Brooklyn Bridge and no one at all seemed to mind. Is this common fare in the world of TASM? These should be huge events.

The world = New York. But every superhero is a game changer and I don't see people's reaction being in every superhero movie, nor being necessary.

This is why it was a bad call to cut JJJ. His indignation, skepticism and shock reflect the feelings throughout the city. It gives the viewer a character through whom the eyes of, they can see the world's reaction to Spider-Man.

Raimi's JJJ was only a comedic relief. Sure, he was angry at the Spider-man persona. But no one ever understood why. Same with the bridge new yorkers who appear out of the blue. One is left to assume they were saved by Spider-man at some point, but other than that, it's a background-less last-minute spare tyre to save Spidey.

 

[Lorus]

As shown the employees who work in that area were wearing hasmat style suits when they came out of the room. In a controlled environment, and wearing those suits it's unlikely that the spiders would escape or bite anyone randomly. The spiders were genetically engineered to produce that sort of webbing that apparently oscorp sells a lot of, so them being in a controlled environment makes sense.

Not sure about Peter, but based on some posts around the net a subplot was dropped that may have developed his quest a little more.

I appreciate the fact that being bitten by the spiders you're harvesting product from is hardly standard procedure but the problem remains for me the implications. The fact that the employees are wearing hazmat suits at all suggests that Oscorp have reason to believe the spiders are dangerous or have some affect on an individual otherwise they wouldn't be wearing them at all. Why do they think the spiders are dangerous? Tests must have been conducted and the results would have been quite extraordinary.

I'm positive that some elaboration or further reasoning must have been part of the script at some point but the film seems to have been butchered during editing. Regardless of how counter the comics the original story ran, I'd much rather have seen a film where all the plot threads were addressed and given some conclusion and alienate some purists than what we did get. Now the film seems full of half ideas and concepts semi realised and doesn't cohere nicely.

 

[Jexx]

Actually, I wouldn't of minded there being some 'interview' scenes like there were in in the Raimi trilogy, but that may of left the tone of the movie.

"I think he's a man. Maybe a woman?"

 

[Lorus]

That said, the way some New Yorkers helped him here had a background. The stupid way to do it is just having them helping Spidey in the last second, with no background, and yelling slogans.

The background it's given though is rather contrived and undermines the heart warming feeling of solidarity the film was probably going for. Peter has been painted as a dangerous criminal, a warrant is out for his arrest, this is much more serious than a tabloid printing sensationalist nonsense. Rightly so, given that the film has him act as a bully in pursuing vengeance for the majority of the film. The one act of heroism he performs in sight of a civilian though has such staggering consequences.

This one civilian just happens to know a guy who can contact a guy with a crane and convince him and half a dozen others to risk their lives during a biological attack to help the dangerous vigilante, who needs help because he was wounded escaping law enforcement after beating them up.

I can't remember the scene in SM1 that well as it's been many years since I saw it, but if I recall that one, wasn't Spidey actively defending or acting in the best interest of the citizens that throw stuff at Norman? In their eyes, it seems like there would be a clear hero and villain.

It doesn't help the sequence in ASM that the method employed to help Peter is so blindingly obviously flawed on a fundamental level, which just adds to the contrived feel of the sequence.

 

[Jexx]

Uh.. yea, don't you think someone would of recorded Spider-Man saving the kid with their cellphone?

 

[The Guard]

One huge problem that I had is that I never really felt Spider-Man's presence. He was there, but no one outside of the main characters and a crane worker really seemed to care.

There were media clips, newspaper articles, YouTube videos, a police statement about him...

 

[Eddie Brock]

There were media clips, newspaper articles, YouTube videos, a police statement about him...

A group of vandalizing kids.

 

[Jexx]

I have that graffiti in shirt form.

 

[Radioactive]

Uh.. yea, don't you think someone would of recorded Spider-Man saving the kid with their cellphone?

Uh.. yeah, don't you think everyone would be running away due to a huge giant lizard?

 

[Nathan]

Really didn't like many of the blatantly obvious CGI shots. And did Peter simply order Web cartridges from Oscorp? So what, every time he runs out he just makes a new order?

 

[Jexx]

Yea, but the Lizard left.

 

[Radioactive]

If he bought the web, I wonder where Pete got the money to buy it. Lol

 

[Jexx]

Really didn't like many of the blatantly obvious CGI shots. And did Peter simply order Web cartridges from Oscorp? So what, every time he runs out he just makes a new order?

Bio-cable makes up a large wing of Oscorp. It's probably sold to a large amount of people, not just construction companies or companies that need to use cable, but general people (mountain climbers, bundling up stuff at home, etc.), and it would probably be bought in bulk amount. Peter buys 24 cartridges, if he buys that amount twice every month it probably wouldn't be very odd.

 

[chaseter]

One room of spiders makes up a large wing of Oscorp? There was also only one conveyor belt manufacturing the cartridges.

 

[jacobed]

I didn't like how extreme Flash was. I really liked where that story and relationship ended up but I didn't like the beginning of it. When he punches Peter, that is just too extreme that quickly in that situation. He just punches him right away and beats the crap out of him for really no reason and that bothered me.

 

[Radioactive]

I didn't like how extreme Flash was. I really liked where that story and relationship ended up but I didn't like the beginning of it. When he punches Peter, that is just too extreme that quickly in that situation. He just punches him right away and beats the crap out of him for really no reason and that bothered me.

Agreed!

 

[Eddie Brock]

I didn't like how extreme Flash was. I really liked where that story and relationship ended up but I didn't like the beginning of it. When he punches Peter, that is just too extreme that quickly in that situation. He just punches him right away and beats the crap out of him for really no reason and that bothered me.

They should've played up Flash's reaction to Peter calling him "Eugene." I mean, Flash still flew off the handle, but at least his reasoning would've been a little clearer.

 

[Lighthouse]

Just got back from it. Well directed, very well acted, and almost completely devoid of fun or joy. This movie's tone is so somber I think Batman Begins might be more cheerful.

 

[Thundercrack85]

I really didn't buy his turn around either. Maybe if they hadn't made him such a vicious bully, it would have been more believable.

Though if they had him joke about Uncle Ben, he would have probably had his head bashed through a locker.

 

[Nathan]

Just got back from it. Well directed, very well acted, and almost completely devoid of fun or joy.

Huh, what? I thought the Movie was completely fun and joyful. The only difference is that the characters actually feel real and it's not a complete cheesefest like the Raimi Movies.

 

[Majmun]

Huh, what? I thought the Movie was completely fun and joyful. The only difference is that the characters actually feel real and it's not a complete cheesefest like the Raimi Movies.

I don't know, seemed quite cheesy to me.

 

[Havok83]

I didnt think it was cheesy like the Raimi movies either and I just rewatched all of them in the last 2 weeks. Comparing ASM to SM, it takes itself a bit more serious and mature whereas SM1 was incredibly cheesy and cringeworthy at times

 

[Optimus_Prime_]

Just got back from it. Well directed, very well acted, and almost completely devoid of fun or joy. This movie's tone is so somber I think Batman Begins might be more cheerful.

I just found it to be kind of paint-by-numbers. Not really devoid of "joy" so much as just kind of there without ever really giving a compelling a reason to be there.

 

[Shazam]

I really didn't buy his turn around either. Maybe if they hadn't made him such a vicious bully, it would have been more believable.

Though if they had him joke about Uncle Ben, he would have probably had his head bashed through a locker.

His turn-around totally logical! You punch the bully in the mouth and they either leave you alone or become your pal.

We're so far removed from the days of teaching our kids to fight back, that we cant even understand the value anymore.