BvS Batman V Superman Box Office Prediction - - - Part 12

[Gerontophobe]

In Deadline’s write-up on Friday’s international numbers, they mentioned, “Industry execs earlier this week predicted BvS ends its international run anywhere from $550M-$800M.” After looking at the different markets, I don’t really see how it will break $550M.

I went through and put up goals for BvS in every market such that it adds up to $600M OS. It is looking like it will notably underperform in most major markets other than Mexico and Australia (and maybe Germany).

What are your predictions for the foreign total? How low can BvS sink despite opening to $254M?

 

[GreenKToo]

Drew McWeeny has been saying that if this movie doesn't make a billion (which is off the table at this point) you're going to see people losing their jobs.

To be clear he's been saying that's what he THINKS will happen. He hasn't heard that from any sources. The only thing he heard from sources was that execs were worried the film would be as divisive as Man of Steel and they were hoping for something that would have MUCH more mass appeal.

You have to think there is a shred of truth to that. It's Batman, Superman, AND WW. In one Film. Together. For the very first time.

If WB were expecting anything less than a billion, then they truly need to get out of the film business.

IMO, it SHOULD have been up there with AV, lotr's, and JW, BO.
Instead, it's gonna crawl to 850, perhaps 900 mill. unacceptable.

I think it could go down like this IF it only reaches 850 mill or so ww.
we will first hear about JL being delayed 6 moths/a year, followed by announcements of so and so leaving the project because of other commitments. We may even see some of the cast leave.
All depends on the final BO tho.

 

[Tacit Ronin]

Hell no. I want him to make his Ayn Rand Fountainhead flick. It's gonna be a sublime disaster.

 

[jmc]

I said this last night as an option moving forward. WB should forget MoS and BvS happened, treat SS as a one off, have WW act as a soft reboot then press forward with the cast they have and start from scratch with JL and give the audience what they want, and simple action movie with great characters that isn't so dark and depressing. Wipe it all clean and have JL be an X-men like superhero team film.

 

[parkerpete]

Well ... I want his career to be dead.

Have to agree. Snyder has been doing a barely-passable impersonation of a real filmmaker for too long.

I'm sorry that BvS wasn't good, and I'm really sorry that WB's lack of foresight has the entire DCU in an impossible position right now.

But as for Zack Snyder failing on a massive scale? That's pretty gratifying, to be honest.

It's like the entire film-going public woke up this week and said, 'Wow, that is one naked Emperor.'

 

[Poni_Boy]

I said this last night as an option moving forward. WB should forget MoS and BvS happened, treat SS as a one off, have WW act as a soft reboot then press forward with the cast they have and start from scratch with JL and give the audience what they want, and simple action movie with great characters that isn't so dark and depressing. Wipe it all clean and have JL be an X-men like superhero team film.

Agreed. It's a plan for a solid box office. Now if they want to really go nuts, throw the money at actors that will put butts in seats with their names alone.

 

[Nokio]

Wow, things are worse than I expected. I didnt imagin this huge of a drop. Damn the critics won.

 

[Boom]

I don't know if you can just ask (much less expect) audiences to disregard previous films when you keep the same cast in place.

 

[X Knight]

I said this last night as an option moving forward. WB should forget MoS and BvS happened, treat SS as a one off, have WW act as a soft reboot then press forward with the cast they have and start from scratch with JL and give the audience what they want, and simple action movie with great characters that isn't so dark and depressing. Wipe it all clean and have JL be an X-men like superhero team film.

how can you pretend MOS and BvS never happened but still use the same cast?

 

[Sarcastic Fan]

Wow, things are worse than I expected. I didnt imagin this huge of a drop. Damn the critics won.

What did the critics win?

 

[king666]

I said this last night as an option moving forward. WB should forget MoS and BvS happened, treat SS as a one off, have WW act as a soft reboot then press forward with the cast they have and start from scratch with JL and give the audience what they want, and simple action movie with great characters that isn't so dark and depressing. Wipe it all clean and have JL be an X-men like superhero team film.

Yeah. They should just act like BvS never happened. A timeskip would do the trick.

how can you pretend MOS and BvS never happened but still use the same cast?

Just completely ignore it Literally pretend it never happened.

So, will this thing get to $900mi?

 

[writer0327]

how can you pretend MOS and BvS never happened but still use the same cast?

Singer pretended Superman 3 and 4 never happened and WB bought it...

 

[jmc]

how can you pretend MOS and BvS never happened but still use the same cast?

Simply come out and say it. Time jump it 5 years into the future if you must. The cast seems to be the only thing out of this mess people can universally agree was good, and WB have already spent millions of dollars to make Cavill, Affleck and Gadot the face of those three characters.

 

[Nokio]

Agreed. It's a plan for a solid box office. Now if they want to really go nuts, throw the money at actors that will put butts in seats with their names alone.

JL shouldn't be anything like the Xmen films, you take that back. Avengers yes. Well you can beat WB is rewriting JL as we speak. Sad really, BvS shouldve done amazing numbers. I cant believe Deadpool is gonna beat it. Thats sad.

 

[Tacit Ronin]

Wow, things are worse than I expected. I didnt imagin this huge of a drop. Damn the critics won.

Critics had very little to do with this. The drop was more a consequence of horrendous word of mouth.

 

[Jennifer Walters]

Agreed. It's a plan for a solid box office. Now if they want to really go nuts, throw the money at actors that will put butts in seats with their names alone.

Actors aren't a problem. It isn't exactly like a majority of Marvel's leads were box office gold when they started.

I mean when was the last time you heard someone say ''Wow. Look there's a new Paul Rudd movie!"

 

[Leenie]

I don't know if you can just ask (much less expect) audiences to disregard previous films when you keep the same cast in place.

I think it can be done, especially with Batman and Wonder Woman. Superman I'm not so sure about (unfortunately), but the other characters would be relatively easy, in my opinion.

Batman and Wonder Woman are literally the only positive things the general audience has to say about BvS. I'm sure the GA would be fine with going along with their solo movies.

 

[Poni_Boy]

how can you pretend MOS and BvS never happened but still use the same cast?

You can. But WB wouldn't. Not their style.

 

[X Knight]

Singer pretended Superman 3 and 4 never happened and WB bought it...

SR didn't use the same cast, though.

Simply come out and say it. Time jump it 5 years into the future if you must. The cast seems to be the only thing out of this mess people can universally agree was good, and they've already spent millions of dollars to make make Cavill, Affleck and Gadot the face of those three characters.

if WW weren't a part of BvS, I could somehow see them soft rebooting with the WW solo film.

but WW was part BvS.

 

[X Knight]

You can. But WB wouldn't. Not their style.

the only way to soft reboot and do it story wise is with Flash, imo.

 

[Nokio]

What did the critics win?

The F-ing opportunity to say them classic words " I told you so"
Now they can feel vindicated. I hate it, this movie was better than of those Transformers flicks and the critics fried them too and yet they all did very well at the box office. Its crazy, how can they be critic proof and BvS loses against the bad reviews?

 

[Poni_Boy]

Actors aren't a problem. It isn't exactly like a majority of Marvel's leads were box office gold when they started.

I mean when was the last time you heard someone say ''Wow. Look there's a new Paul Rudd movie!"

Hah no what I meant was increasing box office interest off actors IF a reboot was planned. For example, Ben Affleck had to prove himself (and I feel he did). But, just for a second, imagine if they announced Leo DiCaprio and Jon Hamm as Batman and Superman three years from now. The names alone would give them an insane box office boost

 

[FunkMiller]

I said this last night as an option moving forward. WB should forget MoS and BvS happened, treat SS as a one off, have WW act as a soft reboot then press forward with the cast they have and start from scratch with JL and give the audience what they want, and simple action movie with great characters that isn't so dark and depressing. Wipe it all clean and have JL be an X-men like superhero team film.

A soft-ish reboot is pretty easy really. Just have a script where Superman returns to life within the first half an hour, more or less ignore the events of MoS and BvS, and concentrate on a brand new, lighter tone with no world building bulls*** and a coherent story. This series still has box office written all over it if the right people are employed to do it.

And make sure Zack Snyder is a million miles away from it.

 

[AndrewGilkison]

If Fox could rebound from X-Men Origins Wolverine WB can rebound from BvS not making a billion. They need Suicide Squad and Wonder Woman to get better receptions with the public though, and have better word of mouth. And they need to get Zack Snyder out of the director's chair as soon as possible. And they need a Kevin Feige type to run this universe.

 

[Poni_Boy]

The F-ing opportunity to say them classic words " I told you so"
Now they can feel vindicated. I hate it, this movie was better than of those Transformers flicks and the critics fried them too and yet they all did very well at the box office. Its crazy, how can they be critic proof and BvS loses against the bad reviews?

Find me one Rotten Tomatoes approved critic who's saying that. Anywhere. Critics don't like to bash a movie. Serves no purpose