BvS Batman V Superman Box Office Prediction - - - - - - - Part 16

[GreenKToo]

aint no excuse gonna fly. BvS disappointed the majority.

 

[Spiderine]

870 mill is pathetic for a film like this.
Everyone and their brother thought a billion was the floor, and 900 mill would mean things went horribly wrong, but we wouldn't even think about the worse case, no, it would make a billion at least.

I will say this, they can market the hades out of JL all they want but I don't see it having near the anticipation that BvS had. such a waste.

870 mil for a film like this is cool.......if it were 2007. I mean this is getting ridiculous. Even if it were 2007 it would have gotten ridiculed when Spidey made that **** in 2007 by his lonesome.

 

[Jekecy]

JL is going to have a rough, rough hill to go over to gain all that goodwill back. Shame, as that's literally DCs biggest property. Potentially.

 

[Gerontophobe]

Yes, which is why I don't agree with Gerontophobe's post that concludes Chinese hated the movie and it had awful WOM just based on the fact that it had 20M Friday and 57M OW.

I didn't conclude WOM was bad just from the first weekend. I was pointing out that bad WOM began to negatively impact the gross in the first weekend (as several pointed out that the Friday-to-Saturday jump was a lot weaker than expected). The effect is small to begin with (dropping the internal multiple to a 2.81, which is fairly weak for a Hollywood blockbuster) and accelerated into next weekend (when it fell off the map).

The biggest problem for BvS was the toxic WOM caused it to fall off a cliff and make very little in its second weekend.

 

[InCali]

I didn't conclude WOM was bad just from the first weekend. I was pointing out that bad WOM began to negatively impact the gross in the first weekend (as several pointed out that the Friday-to-Saturday jump was a lot weaker than expected). The effect is small to begin with (dropping the internal multiple to a 2.81, which is fairly weak for a Hollywood blockbuster) and accelerated into next weekend (when it fell off the map).

Yeah. I think that's a fair assessment. I pointed out the drop from Sat to Sun (DOM) was more for BvS than CW in spite of the Monday after BvS opened being a holiday. That's another example of "early" bad WOM. It accelerated into the next weekend in the US/Canada (as one would expect if WOM was, in fact, poor).

 

[Ozbridge]

I didn't conclude WOM was bad just from the first weekend. I was pointing out that bad WOM began to negatively impact the gross in the first weekend (as several pointed out that the Friday-to-Saturday jump was a lot weaker than expected). The effect is small to begin with (dropping the internal multiple to a 2.81, which is fairly weak for a Hollywood blockbuster) and accelerated into next weekend (when it fell off the map).

Well then I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree.

Anyway Mendelson from Forbes just had an article about BvS's disappointment at the box office. It boiled down to

But right now, the appeal of the DCEU is mostly rooted in the theoretical idea of big-screen versions of the DC superheroes as opposed to explicitly defined cinematic personas of said characters.

 

[Johnglen]

JL is going to have a rough, rough hill to go over to gain all that goodwill back. Shame, as that's literally DCs biggest property. Potentially.

I am really struggling to see how it is a bigger property than a movie called batman versus superman . Yes it has batman, superman and friends but even the versus word makes BvS more intriguing, IMO .

 

[Longshot777]

Interesting that CW is making lots of money but the second time I saw it, there were only me and my friends in the theatre.

Unlike BVS, who fell off hard the second week, there were more people on our second week viewing. Hmmm.

And as for TV news, there were more report on how BVS was making money the first weeks it was release yet CW which is ready to surpass it as a whole....no mention on TV news except on Yahoo News.

I'm not saying CW is not making money, it just seems odd.

I love both movies by the way. Equally.

 

[Erzengel]

Different seasons. BvS is #1 for DC Movies, March and Spring Weekend Opening records. Records that had much lower ceilings.

CW opening in May is still considered a Summer release where records are a lot higher. Saying it beat BvS in anything isn't necessarily saying much or news worthy.

 

[Stark Bauer]

BVS' BO numbers as of today:

DOM GROSS 327.6
INT GROSS 540.6
WW GROSS 868.2

Zootopia BO as of today

DOM GROSS 328.8
INT GROSS 630.7
WW GROSS 959.5

JB as of today

DOM GROSS 292.6
INT GROSS 494.3
WW GROSS 786.9


CW BO as of today

DOM GROSS 215.2
INT GROSS 550.7
WW GROSS 765.9

 

[Raiden]

I am really struggling to see how it is a bigger property than a movie called batman versus superman . Yes it has batman, superman and friends but even the versus word makes BvS more intriguing, IMO .

I think the novelty of the Trinity is already wasted in BVS. JL will have less of that wow effect even with more members.

 

[Kanye West]

The biggest problem this movie faced was the fact that the "bad reviews" themselves became a news story.

It was so anticipated and once the reviews came out they became the headlines. People I know that wanted to see the movie didn't see it because of those headlines. The WOM of mouth wasn't so much from the audience talking to other people.

Both of my screenings even the 2nd week had the audience applaud at the end. The audience didn't hate it like some of you like to think.

Like X-Men is getting mixed reviews but you don't have the whole internet talking about it. BvS was too big. And that's what ate it up

 

[FunkMiller]

The biggest problem this movie faced was the fact that the "bad reviews" themselves became a news story.

It was so anticipated and once the reviews came out they became the headlines. People I know that wanted to see the movie didn't see it because of those headlines. The WOM of mouth wasn't so much from the audience talking to other people.

Both of my screenings even the 2nd week had the audience applaud at the end. The audience didn't hate it like some of you like to think.

Like X-Men is getting mixed reviews but you don't have the whole internet talking about it. BvS was too big. And that's what ate it up

The biggest problem this movie faced was not being a good movie. That's why it got bad reviews...because that's how this thing works.

Mediocre/poor movie = poor reviews
Mediocre/poor movie = poor word of mouth
Mediocre/poor movie = box office disappointment

See how easy it is?

 

[Johnglen]

The biggest problem this movie faced was the fact that the "bad reviews" themselves became a news story.

It was so anticipated and once the reviews came out they became the headlines. People I know that wanted to see the movie didn't see it because of those headlines. The WOM of mouth wasn't so much from the audience talking to other people.

Both of my screenings even the 2nd week had the audience applaud at the end. The audience didn't hate it like some of you like to think.

Like X-Men is getting mixed reviews but you don't have the whole internet talking about it. BvS was too big. And that's what ate it up

Oh please, the wom was horrible . The transformer movies have been doing fine with very bad reviews because ....guess what....the people that go and watch them actually enjoy them . Most people that watched BvS simply didn't like it thus the horrible, based on the drops, wom .

 

[GreenKToo]

I feel there may have been another 30/40 mill or so there with a better editing job.
We will never know.

 

[wobbly]

It's obvious that for many who turned up opening weekend that BvS was a 'one and done'. You don't get great legs from that, even if some repeat viewers applaud their hands off.

Wom was poor for BvS. End of story.

 

[DJ_KiDDvIcIOUs]

Interesting that CW is making lots of money but the second time I saw it, there were only me and my friends in the theatre.

Unlike BVS, who fell off hard the second week, there were more people on our second week viewing. Hmmm.

And as for TV news, there were more report on how BVS was making money the first weeks it was release yet CW which is ready to surpass it as a whole....no mention on TV news except on Yahoo News.

I'm not saying CW is not making money, it just seems odd.

I love both movies by the way. Equally.

Anecdotal evidence may shape your view but it's pretty meaningless in the grand scheme of things. Another reason you kept hearing mad news about BvS was because their marketing team was in overdrive trying to counter all the negative critical reviews with good headlines to try and put butts in the seats. Avengers did the same thing the 2nd and 3rd weekends except they had film people loved so it was much more effective.

 

[Mandon Knight]

I feel there may have been another 30/40 mill or so there with a better editing job.
We will never know.

They should have simply released the 3 hr Extended/Ultimate cut and be done with it.

 

[Erzengel]

Avatar only received $10M with a rerelease.

This isn't like Star Wars either.

The only ones who would be clamoring for an extended cut would be people who really liked the movie in the first place. Honestly, if it was released, that would also put a dent in the video sales.

 

[Timebomb]

The biggest problem this movie faced was not being a good movie. That's why it got bad reviews...because that's how this thing works.

Mediocre/poor movie = poor reviews
Mediocre/poor movie = poor word of mouth
Mediocre/poor movie = box office disappointment

See how easy it is?

So much this. It really is quite easy.

 

[Marvel Knight]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXOtPsNuYRw

Batman v Superman Blamed for Civil War Lower Box Office

 

[Angryfantasyfan]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXOtPsNuYRw

Batman v Superman Blamed for Civil War Lower Box Office

Nah.

 

[Stark Bauer]

Well it looks like BvS isn't going to beat GotG's 333 million domestic total. I wonder if it will reach $330...

 

[Erzengel]

I don't see it making another $6M domestically.

 

[StormC]

Well it looks like BvS isn't going to beat GotG's 333 million domestic total. I wonder if it will reach $330...

So Batman and Superman not only lost to Deadpool, they lost to Star-Lord, a tree and a raccoon. Jesus.