BvS Batman V Superman Box Office Prediction - - - - - - - Part 16

[wobbly]

Fant4stic crap didn't hurt Deadpool. Green Lantern didn't kill the genre.

The good CBM films do fine, the average do average, the crap usually bombs.

Lather rinse repeat.

 

[Micromind]

Fant4stic crap didn't hurt Deadpool. Green Lantern didn't kill the genre.

The good CBM films do fine, the average do average, the crap usually bombs.

Lather rinse repeat.

You are making too much sense.

BvS threads are mostly about bashing BvS and blaming it for nonsensical things in life.

 

[Ozbridge]

Wait, wait wait. Civil War has made $940 million after one week and people are saying BvS hurt it??? Am I missing something? It's well on it's way to a billion in a few days and to be the top earner this year.

Some said that BvS is the reason that leads to CW's underwhelming OW (179M instead of 190M+ like AoU) and its big drop in 2nd weekend (60%, which is not much higher than IM3 or AoU but still the 3rd biggest drop of MCU movies after CA:TFA and TIH)

(I'm just telling kguillou the reasons why some people blamed BvS, not that I agree with any of those things)

 

[Aejej]

Yet CA: CW which has a 89% on RT & an A CinemaScore just drooped 60% in week 2 with no competition.

Imagine how much it'd have dropped were it not the Civil War movie Feige ordered.

 

[Marvel Knight]

If BvS really hurt Civil War's returns, that kinda proves what I've been saying could happen for a while now: that by continuously releasing bad films, WB might make the superhero bubble pop without even realizing it.

They're already underway to making that happen.

I honestly don't think there's room for multiple superhero cinematic universes anymore.

Audiences aren't made of money and are going to become more selective, depending on the quality of these film series.


Here's John Campea's video on BVS having an impact on CACW not performing at it's best potential;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FeG-kcTizAo

 

[Baba3231]

They're already underway to making that happen.

I honestly don't think there's room for multiple superhero cinematic universes anymore.

Audiences aren't made of money and are going to become more selective, depending on the quality of these film series.


Here's John Campea's video on BVS having an impact on CACW not performing at it's best potential;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FeG-kcTizAo

You might want to rethink your sig then.

 

[Pickle-El]

They're already underway to making that happen.

I honestly don't think there's room for multiple superhero cinematic universes anymore.

Audiences aren't made of money and are going to become more selective, depending on the quality of these film series.


Here's John Campea's video on BVS having an impact on CACW not performing at it's best potential;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FeG-kcTizAo

This is ridiculous. You can't start moving the goalposts now....CW had a month of 97% reviews on RT on top of fan screenings, and every blogger and website out there proclaiming it the greatest Marvel film yet for WEEKS. Let's not mention this was Avengers 2.5 and marketed as so.

There is no excuse. It's making what it was supposed to....just like BvS. It will break a billion and end up with a 2.3 multiplier, similar in debut, gross, repeat business to IM3.

Boy are you Marvel fans spoiled.

 

[Infinity9999x]

This is ridiculous. You can't start moving the goalposts now....CW had a month of 97% reviews on RT on top of fan screenings, and every blogger and website out there proclaiming it the greatest Marvel film yet for WEEKS. Let's not mention this was Avengers 2.5 and marketed as so.

There is no excuse. It's making what it was supposed to....just like BvS. It will break a billion and end up with a 2.3 multiplier, similar in debut, gross, repeat business to IM3.

Boy are you Marvel fans spoiled.

BvS in no way made what it was "supposed" to. Let's be real now. If the film had been better it would have done gangbusters. Instead it did well, but mostly bolstered by a big opening weekend.

 

[Pickle-El]

BvS in no way made what it was "supposed" to. Let's be real now. If the film had been better it would have done gangbusters. Instead it did well, but mostly bolstered by a big opening weekend.

When talking box office, every film makes what it's supposed to make. Audiences make sure of that. You are talking about expectations.

I'm specifically referring to it's reception and legs thereafter. BvS wasn't a movie like say, Transformers 2, that made gangbusters and everyone universally agrees it really doesn't deserve it. I'm saying BvS made as much as it was going to make considering the movie that was made, post-hype and release. In many ways, they are lucky it didn't make less.

I'm saying that Civil War is in the same boat. Critics may have loved it, and hardcore fans may have as well...it's possible that people who saw it maybe thought it was a little more dull than most Marvel flicks, creating less demand for re-watch (legs). It was never going to do a 3.0 multiplier like Avengers, it's not a feel-good movie, same as BvS. Audiences are kinda bored that 1st hour and left with a dreary tone and ending. That seems to be coming to light now, and even CW was never going to crack 500+million domestic like MANY box office pundits were predicting.


Maybe having your heroes beat each other to bloody pulps is more appealing to the fanboy than it is to the GA?

 

[Kanye West]

The biggest problem this movie faced was not being a good movie. That's why it got bad reviews...because that's how this thing works.

Mediocre/poor movie = poor reviews
Mediocre/poor movie = poor word of mouth
Mediocre/poor movie = box office disappointment

See how easy it is?

Uh no.

The word of mouth was "meh" at worst from the audience.

Transformers comes out and gets bad reviews and it's not a big deal because it's expected. Batman v Superman gets bad reviews and it was a huge story that many websites ran with and was all over the internet. People who don't usually care about reviews were exposed to them because of the scale of the movie.

A lot of not-good movies make a lot of money because the reviews aren't put on the front page of every movie website.

 

[Kanye West]

If this movie was the same quality, and didn't have any reviews. the result would be way different.

 

[jmc]

They're already underway to making that happen.

I honestly don't think there's room for multiple superhero cinematic universes anymore.

Audiences aren't made of money and are going to become more selective, depending on the quality of these film series.


Here's John Campea's video on BVS having an impact on CACW not performing at it's best potential;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FeG-kcTizAo

I call BS on this because after a certain point box office prediction becomes shear guess work. The truth is we'll never know what affect, if any BvS had on Civil War. If our expectations are now $200+ opening weekend for a film like that, then perhaps we have to reevaluate things a little.

 

[Milkman95]

Can't compare Civil War to BvS - Civil War is the 13th Film in the MCU and BvS is the 2nd, not to mention CW being Avengers 2.5, it should do better business, the public, at this point, is more invested in their characters.

Marvel continues the no stakes, safe road, I'll be fine with what the DCEU brings, anything different than the Mouse House at this point.

 

[Timebomb]

Can't compare Civil War to BvS - Civil War is the 13th Film in the MCU and BvS is the 2nd, not to mention CW being Avengers 2.5, it should do better business, the public, at this point, is more invested in their characters.

Marvel continues the no stakes, safe road, I'll be fine with what the DCEU brings, anything different than the Mouse House at this point.

Really? What do you consider a safe road?if you mean putting out good quality then I guess you are right.

 

[Timebomb]

If this movie was the same quality, and didn't have any reviews. the result would be way different.

Bad WOM would have been the same. You can't hide the crap once it has been released.

 

[StormC]

If this movie was the same quality, and didn't have any reviews. the result would be way different.

You seriously think most of the GA reads clickbait about superhero movies? You're delusional.

 

[IronManHype]

Can't compare Civil War to BvS - Civil War is the 13th Film in the MCU and BvS is the 2nd, not to mention CW being Avengers 2.5, it should do better business, the public, at this point, is more invested in their characters.

Marvel continues the no stakes, safe road, I'll be fine with what the DCEU brings, anything different than the Mouse House at this point.

No stakes safe road? I think having their (arguably) 2nd most popular character almost beat their most popular character to death on screen was pretty ballsy.

 

[StormC]

edit: I can't read lol

 

[Kanon]

The only way BvS might have affected CW BO is if we take into account some kind of superhero vs superhero fatigue, and since we can't actually measure that, it's kinda pointless. And CW is doing business in line with other Marvel films, so there is little to support the hypothesis.

Meanwhile, I have been absent the last couple of weeks... It's even worthy to further discuss BvS BO? I updated my proyections with actuals and it keeps dropping even harder than expected. It might not touch 329M now...

 

[shinlyle]

Can't compare Civil War to BvS - Civil War is the 13th Film in the MCU and BvS is the 2nd, not to mention CW being Avengers 2.5, it should do better business, the public, at this point, is more invested in their characters.

Marvel continues the no stakes, safe road, I'll be fine with what the DCEU brings, anything different than the Mouse House at this point.

Well, DC has put out its third bad movie in a row, so that is something Marvel/Disney hasn't tried. Green Lantern, Man of Steel, BvS....
...if The Dark Knight Rises came out in between those, then that would be an exception.

Apparently, everyone with the "DC, FTW" mind-set seems to believe you can't have good movies unless they are bordering on an R-rating and someone major dies in each installment...whereas Marvel seems intent on keeping characters around so you can care about them in each subsequent installment.
I think that, therein, lies the magic.

 

[Erzengel]

Anyone who watched CW knows that this was still a Captain America movie and not an Avengers 2.5.

 

[Stark Bauer]

The only way BvS might have affected CW BO is if we take into account some kind of superhero vs superhero fatigue, and since we can't actually measure that, it's kinda pointless. And CW is doing business in line with other Marvel films, so there is little to support the hypothesis.

Meanwhile, I have been absent the last couple of weeks... It's even worthy to further discuss BvS BO? I updated my proyections with actuals and it keeps dropping even harder than expected. It might not touch 329M now...

I was predicting that BvS wouldn't surpass GotG's $333M Dom total. It's looking like it will reach 329 and eventually 330M. It is coming to a screeching halt and may not exceed 330 M at this point.

 

[STARMAN]

I hold BvS responsible for BvS and no other film except JL.

 

[Kanon]

I was predicting that BvS wouldn't surpass GotG's $333M Dom total. It's looking like it will reach 329 and eventually 330M. It is coming to a screeching halt and may not exceed 330 M at this point.

I think 330 is off the table now. 329 is in doubt, if it keeps doing under 100k a day (by tomorrow it could be doing under 50k)

 

[Stark Bauer]

I would wager that it will reach 329M. 330 is possible but is doubtful