BP/Storm guest list

[Darthphere]

Sure,his origin yes.But his actual history as a child traced all the way to him being a grown man and taking the role of Black Panther probably weren't.

Maybe, I know for a fact he had a pretty long running series in the 70's. I would have to track that information down though.

 

[RockSP]

Except, Black Panther and Storm were already established characters with their own origins and relationships. Its different than a Wolverine has bone claws and Jean grey not being the Phoenix, because these are minor changes. Its different than a Jessica Jone and Bradley situation becuase they never were established characters and fairly new. Its different than a Bucky being a Winter Soldier because thats a resurrection of a long past dead character.

There is no difference. If those writers could say those things happened then Hudlin can say Storm or Panther knows Bradley (not that I know that that's the case of course).

 

[Varient]

T'challa seems like a guy who would include his whole country in the celebration, a week of parties and drinks and orgies and such.

SMH @ "orgies and such".

That would be out of character.

 

[blah]

The dude just got married, and you don't want him to change?

 

[Darthphere]

SMH @ "orgies and such".

That would be out of character.

It would, but it be cool for me to see, *cough*FrankChogetonit*cough*

 

[blah]

you think he'd invite Doc Doom?

 

[Darthphere]

you think he'd invite Doc Doom?

Probably not.

 

[Harlekin]

you think he'd invite Doc Doom?

Priest Panther? Yes, and Doc Doom would keep himself disciplined too, to boot.
Hudlin Panther? Probably not.

 

[Varient]

you think he'd invite Doc Doom?

Actually,.. based on Priests run,... he would invite Doom, Namor, The Defenders, Daredevil, Avengers, The Fantastic Four, James Rhodes, Junter, Shang-Chi, Casper Cole, the Bradley's,...
( BTW - The T'Challa HAD to be aware of Isiah Bradley based on his keeping an eye on Casper Cole when he was playing the Panther in the events near the end of the last run,.. moving into the Short - lived Crew.)

It wouldn't surprise ANYONE who read both series that he'd invite the Bradley's.

To continue:

The Xmen, the Inhumans, Daniel Rand, Brother VooDoo, Blade, The Falcon, That High School he taught at when he first came to America, ...........

By Canon alone,.. he's met too many who could easily invited.

BTW part two,... Doom is Canoned to have the sense that IF he were invited, he'd show up at his best behavior,.. and as long as he wasn't attacked would act as rulers should.

if it were real,.. I'd go just to watch Namor, Doom, and BlackBolt having a convo, Misty Knight, and all the other Marvel women give wifey advice to Storm.

 

[Darthphere]

( BTW - The T'Challa HAD to be aware of Isiah Bradley based on his keeping an eye on Casper Cole when he was playing the Panther in the events near the end of the last run,.. moving into the Short - lived Crew.)

It wouldn't surprise ANYONE who read both series that he'd invite the Bradley's.

*cough* Except, hes never met the man in his life. Just because he knows who the guy is doesnt mean he automatically gets an invite to his wedding. Im betting BP knows who Rage is, I doubt hes getting an invite.

 

[BrianWilly]

Exactly. It just makes no sense, period, for someone to be invited to a wedding of people that he neither knows nor cares about. Any relationship that he has with Storm or BP is going to have to be retconned in, and frankly I am sick and tired of stories being retconned in and us being forced to accept it as long-running history. And the fact that Isaiah is plastered on the cover is yet more ridiculous, practically exploitative.

I know that Storm and BP had that one fling a while back. I also know that it was absolutely nothing like the relationship that it is today, the one that it has been -- *gasp* -- retconned into.

 

[GNR]

Rage and Isaiah are 2 totally different people.

Look at the bullsh1t Isaiah went through.Look at what he had to overcome.How can you not respect a soldier who stood for his country when his country spat on his race?Bradley is a guy who earns respect for what he did in the past,what he stood for and how he did so.

You're probably getting sick of my respect talk Darth,but that's pretty much what it boils down too.Kind of far fetched,but picture the wedding of an important foreign dignitary.People of all sorts would be invited such as other diplomats,world leaders,VETERANS of war,etc.Not everyone particularly knows each other personally.

 

[GNR]

Exactly. It just makes no sense, period, for someone to be invited to a wedding of people that he neither knows nor cares about. Any relationship that he has with Storm or BP is going to have to be retconned in, and frankly I am sick and tired of stories being retconned in and us being forced to accept it as long-running history. And the fact that Isaiah is plastered on the cover is yet more ridiculous, practically exploitative.

I know that Storm and BP had that one fling a while back. I also know that it was absolutely nothing like the relationship that it is today, the one that it has been -- *gasp* -- retconned into.

Okay Mr.Whedon lover,you need to chill the fack out.

How the hell is Isaiah plastered on the cover?Sure he's on the cover,but with a bunch of other super heroes all crowded.

Again,see my previous posts as to why T'Challa would invite him.

 

[Varient]

*cough* Except, hes never met the man in his life. Just because he knows who the guy is doesnt mean he automatically gets an invite to his wedding. Im betting BP knows who Rage is, I doubt hes getting an invite.

Stop Dancing.
He becomes aware of the members of the crew which included Joshua Bradley and being the Panther he would've invited the entire family.
And Rage?

(chuckle)

With the death of Night Thrasher,.. it's not a stretch that he would take an interest,.. If IRON MAN were written more like he used to be,... Rage would've been already scooped up.

But they continue to write him as an arrogant unfeeling jerk in regards to all he can't get immediate benifit from..

 

[Darthphere]

Rage and Isaiah are 2 totally different people.

Look at the bullsh1t Isaiah went through.Look at what he had to overcome.How can you not respect a soldier who stood for his country when his country spat on his race?Bradley is a guy who earns respect for what he did in the past,what he stood for and how he did so.

You're probably getting sick of my respect talk Darth,but that's pretty much what it boils down too.Kind of far fetched,but picture the wedding of an important foreign dignitary.People of all sorts would be invited such as other diplomats,world leaders,VETERANS of war,etc.Not everyone particularly knows each other personally.

Except going by Hudlin's run on BP, T'challa could care less about the going ons in the United States. WHy would he care about him? Everything in Priest's run has pretty much been retconned anyway so using that as a point of reference is incorrect.

 

[Chris Wallace]

I hear ya.I hear alot of praise for Priest's run,but the last thing I would want as a comic fan is Hudlin coming in and trying to follow Priest.Just as we wouldn't want Loeb following Millar's style on Ultimates 3.Hudlin's style is different,but it makes for great comics.His knack for romance,comedy,and dialogue have really shown in the last 2 issues.The first arc alone was one of the best and meaningful 6 parters I've read.The whole history of Wakanda and the title of "Black Panther" being brought to the stage was much needed.Before reading it,I could not care less about whatever Wakanda was.

The one thing I love most about Hudlin,is the dude's love for obscure characters.The guy brought back Klaw,Batroc,different versions of Radioactive Man and Black Knight,Red Ghost,Bill Foster aka Goliath,Brother Voodoo,Blade and made Monica Rambeau a saviour all in the book's first year.The guy is a fan,he loves comics.

I'm sick and tired of all these x-junkies saying the book is crap when most of them haven't even read it or even care for Black Panther as a character.All they know is "Storm should be with Forge!" and "OMFG!!!BP wouldn't say that line he said in #7" without having read the book itself.

Hudlin's focus on Wakanda's culture(african culture for that matter)in this book have garnered complaints by some idiotic junkies calling it "ghettoizing",if that's not racist I don't know what is.Not once has T'Challa spoken out of character with the exception of #7,which was even in quotations and completely taken out of context.

Most of all,Hudlin has made T'Challa very down to earth and human.Gone is the calculating and cold Avenger.He smiles now for God's sakes!

My 2 cents.

I can't even add anything there. Preach on!

 

[Chris Wallace]

Subjective. Its all about opinion. The thing is you may be right, it could be quite enjoyable but its nowhere near the BP a lot of us have been reading before Hudlin came aboard.

You weren't reading BP at all before Hudlin came aboard, unless you were either re-reading old Priest stories or older stories than that.
I don't feel that Hudlin's removed the character that far from what Priest did, & Priest's run was the first time I ever really got into him.

 

[Darthphere]

You weren't reading BP at all before Hudlin came aboard, unless you were either re-reading old Priest stories or older stories than that.
I don't feel that Hudlin's removed the character that far from what Priest did, & Priest's run was the first time I ever really got into him.

How exactly do you know i wasnt reading Priest's run?

 

[Chris Wallace]

I Didn't Say That. But The Book Was Pulled For A While, Wasn't It? I Bailed On The Previous Series When Kasper Cole Was Introduced, & I Believe It Was Cancelled Shortly Thereafter.

 

[Varient]

I Didn't Say That. But The Book Was Pulled For A While, Wasn't It? I Bailed On The Previous Series When Kasper Cole Was Introduced, & I Believe It Was Cancelled Shortly Thereafter.

Yeah,.. all we have are rumors on that part of the run.

That somebody in Marvel didn't think the Panther was "Ghetto" Enough so intro T'Challa having issues at realizing that Happy Pants was himself down the road while in the final stages of dying from long term injuries caused by dealing with a possessed Iron Fist.

So he dumped Almost all his responsibilities and took to running around in his pajama's.

Casper Cole inherents a shredded Panther Suit and becomes the Americanized, gun-toting, ghettofied, doggish, borderline good cop, new "Black Panther".

ICK.


Like the Gangsta-fication of Cage in the short where they completly thugged him out, this Panther rubbed too many fans the wrong way.

Why Priest Went 90 degrees off the track was beyond me,.. but I didn't like it.

 

[RockSP]

Like the Gangsta-fication of Cage in the short where they completly thugged him out, this Panther rubbed too many fans the wrong way.

The max Cage mini was out of continuity, thank goodness.

 

[BrianWilly]

Okay Mr.Whedon lover,you need to chill the fack out.

How the hell is Isaiah plastered on the cover?Sure he's on the cover,but with a bunch of other super heroes all crowded.

Again,see my previous posts as to why T'Challa would invite him.

I've read your previous posts as to why T'Challa would invite him. Those posts are exactly the ones that I'm responding to. There is no logical reason why someone would be invited to a wedding of people he doesn't know and has no connections to and most likely doesn't care about at all. He's not a superhero. He's not African. Maybe BP respects him -- although from the posts I've read it doesn't sound like he would respect America much at all -- but even if he respects Isaiah, that doesn't make this invitation any less bizarre or out-of-place. It's literally like the Silver Samurai being invited to Jubilee's wedding.

 

[Cyclops]

Nah. More like Shang-Chi being invited to Jubilee's wedding or vice-versa.

 

[Darthphere]

Nah. More like Shang-Chi being invited to Jubilee's wedding or vice-versa.

See now, bendis or someone is reading this and Jubilee will now be retconned into the Silver Samurais daughter.

 

[Varient]

HEH.
Bloody unlikely,... even for Marvel.