Breaking Bad - Part 4

[Soapy]

I had to look up what a Munny was, but yeah, that's pretty cool.

 

[Matt]

I just caught up! Holy ****! Things just got real, didn't they?!?!

I have two complaints about the show.

1) What the **** is Gus' past from Chile? Are we destined to never know?

2) I wasn't crazy that the last episode took Walt from a meth cook to a drug kingpin with more money than he knew what to do with in a matter of five minutes. That alone could've been a whole season.

Other than those two things....damn....this show is so good. It is like Grand Theft Auto: The Show meets The Sopranos. SO good.

 

[DJ_KiDDvIcIOUs]

Ya its gonna be hard to top this show

 

[Kane52630]

Well there's a rumor that Gus might show up in a flashback so I'm guessing we will find out about his past.

 

[Keyser Soze]

2) I wasn't crazy that the last episode took Walt from a meth cook to a drug kingpin with more money than he knew what to do with in a matter of five minutes. That alone could've been a whole season.

To me, that was one of the most darkly brilliant aspects of the whole season. We've spent 4 seasons agonising over Walt striving and struggling, toiling and agonising - often at the brink of disaster or death - in order to get to a place where he's safe, has a status quo, and is in control. And finally, after so much sacrifice and damnation, he gets what he's always wanted..... and it zips by in a montage. It's like life. The bad stuff seems to drudge on forever, and the good times are away in a flash before you know it.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Well there's a rumor that Gus might show up in a flashback so I'm guessing we will find out about his past.

Has anybody else been wondering about the toys in Gus' house for the past two seasons since they showed them? I feel like Gilligan meant for Gus to be married and have kids but just never got around to showing us.

 

[antsman41]

I always took it that BB showcases the in & outs of the daily life of a growing drug kingpin, but if it's a mundane task or period of time that showcases no chracter change/growth/etc. than what's the point?

Walt was finally firing on all cylinders for once, we don't need to see him succeeding on repeat for a few episodes. It was covered perfectly in the montage, we didn't need to go too in-depth.

Yes, it would have been nice to show more of what Lydia actually did for it all to start cooking in the Czech but that is the only downside to the montage.

Plus, we got what Vince needed to get out of it. Walt was bored with the life. He actually didn't do it for the money like he always said/says. He does it for the power and the Heisenberg identity. Once he accomplished his goals he figured out he was "past" it. It's like a child getting bored with a video they have "beat".

He needed to get Walt out by retirement than failure (because that has happened every way possible already) for him to feel "free/innocent" for it all to come back and bite him in the butt (the Walt Whitman book).

His common stubbornness led him to false success to only cause him more and more problems. Vince is amazing, along with the writing staff and Bryan & co. Best 5 seasons of tv ever in one collective piece.

BTW, I'm anticipating Walt being attacked on all sides.

1. Hank (solo)
2. DEA at some point (without Hank)
3. That gang he made the methaline deal with...
4. Jesse & Skyler

Also, I think Skyler will be murdered by the gangs while Hank will try to use Jesse against Walt. Might come down to a "gun fight" albeit between DEA or the Gangs but I feel that end for the series will be no more than a Jesse/Walt confrontation

 

[Matt]

To me, that was one of the most darkly brilliant aspects of the whole season. We've spent 4 seasons agonising over Walt striving and struggling, toiling and agonising - often at the brink of disaster or death - in order to get to a place where he's safe, has a status quo, and is in control. And finally, after so much sacrifice and damnation, he gets what he's always wanted..... and it zips by in a montage. It's like life. The bad stuff seems to drudge on forever, and the good times are away in a flash before you know it.

Hmm, never thought of it like that. I dig it.

Has anybody else been wondering about the toys in Gus' house for the past two seasons since they showed them? I feel like Gilligan meant for Gus to be married and have kids but just never got around to showing us.

But didn't Gilligan say in an interview that Gus and his original partner were gay?

 

[Soapy]

To me, that was one of the most darkly brilliant aspects of the whole season. We've spent 4 seasons agonising over Walt striving and struggling, toiling and agonising - often at the brink of disaster or death - in order to get to a place where he's safe, has a status quo, and is in control. And finally, after so much sacrifice and damnation, he gets what he's always wanted..... and it zips by in a montage. It's like life. The bad stuff seems to drudge on forever, and the good times are away in a flash before you know it.

Exactly.

And yes, they could have made an entire season out of that montage, but I can't imagine anyone would truly enjoy an additional 13 or so episodes showing Walt at the top of his game just going through the motions, making meth and making money, with no conflicts and no real drama to speak of.

I would have to imagine that on paper it probably felt very risky for the writers whenever they decided not to show "King Heisenberg" ruling over his international meth empire, but personally I think it worked out beautifully. The way they chose to do it, you get to see all of the interesting stuff (the buildup, and then Walt walking away from it) with none of the boring, humdrum, day to day filler that such a season would have contained.

 

[Soapy]

But didn't Gilligan say in an interview that Gus and his original partner were gay?

I don't know about that, but on the Insider Podcast for Salud they said that they intentionally left Gus' love life vague for the audience, but canonically he is gay.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I figured he was gay. It wouldn't have really made sense for him to be as broken up about his original cook's death as he was if there weren't something more to their relationship.

But that still leaves the question of what was up with those toys in his house. It haunts me!

 

[Soapy]

Gus liked to play with toys to unwind! What of it?!

 

[Poeman]

i am going to Homeland a shot, its a best show winner and has a good topic.

Need some shows to watch until Breaking Bad is back.

The plan:

Boardwalk Empire
Walking Dead
Game of Thrones
Breaking Bad

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Gus liked to play with toys to unwind! What of it?!

Haha, that would be the best blooper gag ever. Gus just chilling, playing with the little Fisher-Price truck and stuff.

 

[Sawyer]

I'm rewatching the new Last House on the Left. I can't believe I forgot Aaron Paul was in this.

Especially with how brutally awesome his death was.

 

[Blitzkrieg Bop]

Gus said that the meals he cooked weren't liked by the "children" or "kids" in S3.

 

[TheOnlyOmega]

i am going to Homeland a shot, its a best show winner and has a good topic.

Need some shows to watch until Breaking Bad is back.

The plan:

Boardwalk Empire
Walking Dead
Game of Thrones
Breaking Bad

I'd get into Justfied, ever since Breaking Bad finished up I've been going through it, great stuff. Also, Dexter seems to be good again, and a new season of American Horror Story starts up in a couple weeks.

Plenty of good TV the tame that Breaking Bad appetite.

 

[Kane52630]

 

[CapedCrusader14]

So I just watched Crawl Space.

Wow. And I thought Season 4 was sort of becoming a bit of a slow burn. But wow. Just wow.

 

[Lunar_Wolf]

You blew my mind!

 

[Soapy]

So I just watched Crawl Space.

Wow. And I thought Season 4 was sort of becoming a bit of a slow burn. But wow. Just wow.

It only gets better from there.

 

[CapedCrusader14]

It only gets better from there.

Yep. I just watched the season finale.

There seems to be nothing left of Walter White now. Seriously.

 

[RetroNaz]

It's awesome seeing new fans of the show get excited

 

[DJ_KiDDvIcIOUs]

Ya I wish I could watch it all again with brand new eyes. But it is cool to go back and see all the little details that you miss the first go around

 

[CapedCrusader14]

Well I have to have to thank the Hype for encouraging me to finally watch it. Easily my favourite show (besides Game of Thrones) on TV