Breaking Bad - Part 8

[Maximus One]

Its just like when people like their own Facebook posts. Every time I see that stuff I hear Diamond Dallas Page's WCW theme music "Self High Five!!!!"

 

[Christopher Nolan]

so, jesse ratting on walter. ***** move. he should have tried to get him without hank.

hank doing the exact same thing that walter did, nice one hank. but seems to me he doesnt care about the way he gets walter...he just wants him to go down, no matter what it might cost..

skyler going totally bad...who would have thought that after the first half of season 5...

walter jr. still no clue...that dude will explode when the truth comes out..

marie..whhuuuuu....going bad, too ?

walter, he's going all in. do it brother.

who's tony montana and who's alejandro sosa?

 

[Piper Maru]

Maybe, just maybe Walter Jr becomes Heisenberg Jr?

 

[Keyser Soze]

What an episode! We actually get a sense that Walter White is morally conflicted about something for the first time in like two seasons! Skyler has well and truly broken bad! And just when I was getting the upbeat feeling of the forces of good gradually assembling with Jesse, Hank, Marie and Gomez in the living room, it's undercut by Hank revealing his callous true colours. And Jesse re-emerges from it all as the true heart of the show.

It's interesting, watching that ending at first, when Jesse ditched the meeting and it turned out there was no hitman, I was like "Nooooo!" and thinking it was all tragic that now Walt would have to kill Jesse. But in hindsight, this is actually a triumphant, vindicating moment for Jesse. He's not just acting as a pawn for Hank to be discarded once he's no longer useful, and - dumb as it may sound with all he's been through - he's not betraying a Walt who earnestly wants to reconcile with him. Instead, Jesse has his own plan to topple Walt on his own terms, and now that Walt is out to kill him it is a more justifiable course of action.

 

[dark_b]

this season is making Skyler the top 3 characters on BB. woow.


i dont even care how this series ends. everything was perfect.

 

[giveyourself12%]

And Jesse re-emerges from it all as the true heart of the show.

Eh...Jesse has never felt that way to me. He seems to be just looking out for himself and his interests like pretty much every character on the show to a lesser or greater degree.

He's not just acting as a pawn for Hank

He got back in the van and shared with Hank his "better way".

he's not betraying a Walt who earnestly wants to reconcile with him.

I think it's been shown that he is. The supposed hitman was indeed just a dad waiting on his little girl. And it's been shown that Walt is disgusted and upset by the idea of killing Jesse.

If Walt ends up making a move on him, it's because of Jesse's own hubris and angst.

 

[Two-Face=Badass]

Yeah, I sympathise with Jesse, but he by no means is a good person.

 

[Christopher Nolan]

i've said it before, jesse is not innocent. he has blood on his hand too. walter forced him to do some things, but he went along many times without walter focing him and as long as he had no personal sacrifice, he didnt really care...

 

[BatLobster]

Guess I'm the only one who thought this was just an okay episode?

I mean, still a good hour of television but just a little weak for BB standards. There was no need to hold off on the revelation that Hank got to Jesse first since it was blatantly obvious. Just felt a little predictable.

I did love the scene where Jesse explains to Hank how Walt is the devil and everything seems to work out in his favor. Not a bad episode by any means but sometimes you need a setup episode to get to the good stuff and this felt like one.

 

[giveyourself12%]

With all these references to Walt as the devil...from Marie...Jesse...and maybe Hank(Don't recall clearly about him)...you gotta wonder if it's gonna pay off in a specific way in the end.

Maybe it's just a reference to Walt's Faustian bargain of in a way becoming king for a day before either his machinations or perhaps even fate (cancer) finally bring him down.

 

[terry78]

Jesus Christ, Marie! Do we really needa bring up the Writer's Strike??

That needs to be a meme.


Jesus Christ Marie!

 

[Keyser Soze]

I think it's been shown that he is. The supposed hitman was indeed just a dad waiting on his little girl. And it's been shown that Walt is disgusted and upset by the idea of killing Jesse.

If Walt ends up making a move on him, it's because of Jesse's own hubris and angst.

My point is that it's not like if only he'd trusted Walt and gone and sat down next to him there, everything would be alright. Him NOT seeing the "hitman" and sitting next to Walt at the bench would have resulted in him drawing a confession out of Walt and wrapping him up in a bow for Hank. And once Hank got his white whale, with the single-minded way he's been pursuing it, I doubt he'd have had much interest in protecting Jesse. Jesse has evidently come up with a plan that gives himself some agency in the whole situation, rather than switching from being Walt's pawn to Hank's pawn.

And it's easy to say Jesse's to blame, but his "hubris" and "angst" comes from, you know, Walt almost fatally poisoning an innocent 8-year-old child that Jesse cared deeply about, in order to manipulate him into aiding him in the murder of Gus: who if Walt HAD been cut out of the picture would in all likelihood have been a much healthier and less damaging mentor/business partner/surrogate father figure than Walt. I don't think Jesse is unreasonable about feeling a wee bit annoyed about the scope of that deception and betrayal.

 

[Keyser Soze]

i've said it before, jesse is not innocent. he has blood on his hand too. walter forced him to do some things, but he went along many times without walter focing him and as long as he had no personal sacrifice, he didnt really care...

Jesse's far from an innocent, absolutely, but he still remains one of the most sympathetic characters in the show in that we at least see the cost of the deeds he's been party to on his conscience. It's got harder and harder for Jesse while it's seemed to get easier and easier for Walt.

 

[Christopher Nolan]

It's got harder and harder for Jesse while it's seemed to get easier and easier for Walt.

characteristics of a psychopath.

as soon as walt has a personal sacrifice like skyler or walter jr. getting killed, he will realize what he has done. i assume that will take place in the next episodes.

right now, the only one that had to let go and sacrifice things was jesse..

 

[Blitzkrieg Bop]

I can't believe Jesse told everything to Hank. I know that Walt and Jesse are probably never reconciling, but damn.

 

[PeterBenParker]

I'm scared for the next two episodes, someone's going to die soon. I can feel it, I just pray it's not Jesse (considering he's more-or-less the morality of the show now, and my favorite character).

If anybody should die from now to the finale, it should definitely be the White Family just to have that impact on Walter White that he caused all of this and now he's regretting it every single day. (though I don't see all of them dying)

 

[A Necessary Evil]

 

[Lord]

I can't believe Jesse told everything to Hank. I know that Walt and Jesse are probably never reconciling, but damn.

f*** you. I'm probably getting an infraction for this but i don't care, spoilar tag what you write about the latest episode and respect others that haven't watched it yet

 

[Drizzle]

mr. nolan has spoken, take a bow...biii.itttccheees..

Yeah, and your untagged spoiler from yesterday ruined the end of the episode for me last night, so how about you not speak for a while?

 

[Keyser Soze]

f*** you. I'm probably getting an infraction for this but i don't care, spoilar tag what you write about the latest episode and respect others that haven't watched it yet

Yeah, and your untagged spoiler from yesterday ruined the end of the episode for me last night, so how about you not speak for a while?

I'm all for being protective of spoilers and people being considerate about where we post them... but come on, guys. Anyone with a shred of common sense knows that the one place you DON'T go if you don't want to know what's just happened in the latest episode of Breaking Bad is a BREAKING BAD THREAD just after the episode has aired, where of course that is the only thing that's going to be getting talked about.

If someone posts a spoiler from this episode before you can watch it on Facebook or Twitter, or on some other message board thread that's not specifically about Breaking Bad, I'll gladly join you in the condemnation. But in this situation? Show some restraint and stay out of the thread if you haven't had a chance to watch the episode yet. Being spoiled in here and moaning about it is like poking holes in the wrapping of your Christmas present to peek inside, then getting pissed off when you discover what the present is.

 

[Keyser Soze]

And SANTA is an anagram of SATAN!

 

[Lord]

That's what spoiler tags are for, i usually go to this thread and this time i Basically clicked it on instinct, then i saw the spoiler.

 

[Upset Spideyfan]

I'm all for being protective of spoilers and people being considerate about where we post them... but come on, guys. Anyone with a shred of common sense knows that the one place you DON'T go if you don't want to know what's just happened in the latest episode of Breaking Bad is a BREAKING BAD THREAD just after the episode has aired, where of course that is the only thing that's going to be getting talked about.

If someone posts a spoiler from this episode before you can watch it on Facebook or Twitter, or on some other message board thread that's not specifically about Breaking Bad, I'll gladly join you in the condemnation. But in this situation? Show some restraint and stay out of the thread if you haven't had a chance to watch the episode yet. Being spoiled in here and moaning about it is like poking holes in the wrapping of your Christmas present to peek inside, then getting pissed off when you discover what the present is.

Drizzle's post is about Nolan who did post a untagged spoiler shortly before the episode aired.

 

[Drizzle]

I'm all for being protective of spoilers and people being considerate about where we post them... but come on, guys. Anyone with a shred of common sense knows that the one place you DON'T go if you don't want to know what's just happened in the latest episode of Breaking Bad is a BREAKING BAD THREAD just after the episode has aired, where of course that is the only thing that's going to be getting talked about.

If someone posts a spoiler from this episode before you can watch it on Facebook or Twitter, or on some other message board thread that's not specifically about Breaking Bad, I'll gladly join you in the condemnation. But in this situation? Show some restraint and stay out of the thread if you haven't had a chance to watch the episode yet. Being spoiled in here and moaning about it is like poking holes in the wrapping of your Christmas present to peek inside, then getting pissed off when you discover what the present is.

Nolan posted the spoiler yesterday afternoon, before the episode even aired.

 

[Keyser Soze]

Nolan posted the spoiler yesterday afternoon, before the episode even aired.

Oh, in that case, yeah, total dick move.