Chapter 36- “ The Butterfly Effect” – Discussion Thread 9/22/08

[JewishHobbit]

Remind me... why was Noah in the cell? And what happened to Claire's flying boyfriend from last season... I don't remember.


And from Mama Patrelli's dream... it seems like Syler, Adam, and the Nightmare Man are all going to play a role this season... add that to the 4 new guys and the potential turncoats in the crowd and we have a very dangerous season. It could be cool, but I hope it doesn't get too crowded and confusing.

 

[xwolverine2]

Originally Posted by Galact-Gal
Sound Manipulation? And they had him on Level 5!?! What sort of evil things could he do with sound manipulation?

maybe he could make himself sound......

Spoiler

.....evil?

 

[shadowdog]

I think I'm going to like Tracy, ice powers are awesome!!!

 

[War Party]

I'm sure the writers are well aware that they were borrowing from the Fly. They would have to be morons if they didn't. I'm sure there's some fans of that film on that writing staff.

 

[TheCompanyMan™]

Breakdown:

Peter--
Pros-He is now stuck in Jesse's body, and we got a quick taste of him experiencing what it's like to be a villan. Future peter is in the present and has an interesting dynamic with mama petrelli.
Cons-we still don't know what the hell up with his irish main squeeze.

Nathan--
Pros-he is teamed back up with linderman...but that kinda leads into the con.
Cons-So he is seeing dead people now and is going crazy. And if in fact Linderman is just his imagination...how the hell was he able to cure him?

Claire--
Pros-we know she is unique and 'special'. She can't die which could open the door to alot of ideas with her character...she could end up like Adam. She actually wants to learn how to defend herself which won't put her as the center of the show in the damsel category (thank god). Also we know she works for the company in the future so is she bad, good, how does she get to that path...alot of open ended questions. And her mom is back which is a plus.
Cons-a bit confused over whther her and peter 4 years into the future are the same future selves as five years gone claire and peter. Were the five years gone characters erased since the explosion was stopped, and now these are the "if the beans were spilled" future chracters?...alot to consider...lol

Niki--
Pros-well at least she has a cool new power...lol
cons-we dont really know what happened to her in that burning building and why she is now tracy. and were the hell is micha?

Matt--
Pros-nothing really worth noting...i just hope we see his father again...that was really the only aspect so far of the character that i felt was a strong point.
cons-we dont really know to much about whats going on with him

Mohinder--
pros-finally has powers...and laid pipe along the way...lol
cons-Skin peeling?

Maya--
Pros-no more black tears!
cons-would like to see her actually use her power to her advantage.

Hiro--
pros-his new mission seems like a good build up. he has seen the future and knows the whole formula aspect so am excited to see where that goes.
cons-the apocalyptic future is alot like season 1 and 2...but hopefully they find a way to make it so it's different. perhaps with the whole formula aspect.

 

[shadowdog]

I like that we finally recognize that Angela has powers too

 

[TheCompanyMan™]

And what happened to Claire's flying boyfriend from last season... I don't remember.

They broke up...

 

[bullets]

I agree with Matt. He's not a Petrelli. She's manipulating him so she can get what she wants. In this case, the bad guys who escaped Level 5.

I was thinking the same thing. Sylar is also quite smart and could also use her to his advantage.


I'm happy with this season and it seems like there is so much going on that they can barely fit things into an episode.

 

[Primal Slayer]

I liked the premire espically every scene with KBell. I love Elle and since she is suppose to appear later on in the season, I wonder where they are going to take her now that she is kicked out of company. But I cant help but feel that if they had Kristin Bell longer, they wouldve made her Claires protector and teacher instead of Claires birth mother. If mama Petrellie did release Elle because she knows something, then I can only think of her doing it to make Elle stronger as an indivual thus becoming a much better company person.

 

[SuperT]

Remind me... why was Noah in the cell?

Remember at episode ten of last season, Noah was shot and Bob, Mohinder, and Elle took him back to The Company facility and gave him Claire's blood. Then Bob took him back to his family and made him tell them he was going back to work for The Company.

The Company had him in their custody the whole time.

 

[bullets]

I also don't think Nathan is crazy .. not yet.

 

[Frank]

It seems like Knox would be pretty easy to defeat. He gains strength from other peoples fear. They could just shoot him, or find someone with no fear to fight him.

As for the guy who can manipulate sound...how does that make him level 5?

I love Heroes but some of these powers seem lame.

if you use some imagination it sounds pretty dangerous. If he can control sounds he can make sounds like banshee from the X-men and mess people up with sonics. Or if he can control it completely he could sneak up on someone by completely removing the sound of his movements.

 

[TheCompanyMan™]

I also don't think Nathan is crazy .. not yet.

playing chess w/ a dead person is pretty crazy...

 

[xwolverine2]

i think they crammed way to much crap into two episodes... i had enough trouble remembering how some people are still alive...

however that "Crap" was pretty damn cool.

 

[bullets]

I liked the premire espically every scene with KBell. I love Elle and since she is suppose to appear later on in the season, I wonder where they are going to take her now that she is kicked out of company. But I cant help but feel that if they had Kristin Bell longer, they wouldve made her Claires protector and teacher instead of Claires birth mother. If mama Petrellie did release Elle because she knows something, then I can only think of her doing it to make Elle stronger as an indivual thus becoming a much better company person.

I have no doubt that elle will help take down the villians but will she go back to the company?

 

[TheCompanyMan™]

^most likely cause she teams w/ syler

 

[iceman7]

lol i duno quite yet if mohinder is turning into a fly or roach just yet
however it seems that way
and also it seems like they kinda just made him their Hank Mccoy.
Genius that's turning into a Beast oh and likes to hang upside down.

Still dont like maya or whatever he name is as her powers are powers that can put her on a path to becoming a villain...but she did look hotter than last season

had a feeling about gabriel being related.
The petrelli blood line seems to be a central bloodline

oh and about sound manipulation being a lvl 5..
really guys? You cant see how it would be a threat?

Think banshee, black canary, syrin and that FF villain that is basically sound...
if he controls sound then he controls sound waves thus being able to control sound frequencies and vibrations....meaning he can possibly make your insides explode or just make you explode period or can lay waste to a whole town by causing enough vibrations

or he could just be another black bolt....black bolt can do ALOT of damage with a whisper

 

[bullets]

playing chess w/ a dead person is pretty crazy...

I still think there is a twist there

 

[bullets]

lol i duno quite yet if mohinder is turning into a fly or roach just yet
however it seems that way
and also it seems like they kinda just made him their Hank Mccoy.
Genius that's turning into a Beast oh and likes to hang upside down.

I was definately catching that vibe

 

[chaseter]

Remind me... why was Noah in the cell? And what happened to Claire's flying boyfriend from last season... I don't remember.


And from Mama Patrelli's dream... it seems like Syler, Adam, and the Nightmare Man are all going to play a role this season... add that to the 4 new guys and the potential turncoats in the crowd and we have a very dangerous season. It could be cool, but I hope it doesn't get too crowded and confusing.

Because he went against the will of his company and he kind of kidnapped Elle???

 

[Arrow157]

It's not Nikki.
If it was Nikki she would have super strength not a freezing ability. This Tracey character must somehow related to Nikki.

 

[xwolverine2]

I was definately catching that vibe

dont forget magnetic manipulation... as the head villain of the level 5 guys lol

 

[04nbod]

I can't help feeling that Nikki's power should have been like triplicate girl/duo damsel. I guess they could still do it if they wanted

 

[chaseter]

It's not Nikki.
If it was Nikki she would have super strength not a freezing ability. This Tracey character must somehow related to Nikki.

I think it is another personality of hers. This isn't Nikki's twin sister...

 

[Dark Donnie]

I had no clue Marlow from The Wire aka Nightmare Man was in it this season