Chapter 40 - “Dying of the Light” – Discussion Thread 10/20/08

[Abaddon]

source?

 

[SuperT]

It was actually titled "1977". From Behind The Eclipse at Comic Book Resources:

I'm curious as to the Company's founders. How did the remaining four die? What were the other founders' powers? Will we see Arthur Petrelli, possibly in a flashback? I find that this group was very cool.

We will see Arthur in a flashback by episode 8 this year. As far as a flashback episode of the company founders - it’s already happened in an alternate universe. Episode 15 of season 2, “1977” was to do exactly that. Powers in the time of Disco. Angela and Arthur Petrelli. But now it’s up for grabs. Fan-fictioners, start your engines

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=17061

Have you ever considered making an episode that revolves entirely around the original heroes? A look many years into the past, to show us these previous Heroes, their powers in full-effect and view, and shed light on their relationships? I believe that kind of episode would surpass “Company Man” and “Five Years Gone” by many miles.

Episode 15 of season 2, “1977” was to do exactly that.

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=17075

 

[SuperT]

whoops, double post

 

[Abaddon]

then he must've just said "that's all you're getting"

 

[Frank]

Adam was over four hundred years old... his power was the only thing keeping him alive.

If that's the case though why hasn't he died around the Haitian?
Then again I can't remember them ever being together.

 

[Frank]

Bottom left = Blue-fire Guy
Top left = ... Mr Sinister?

Seriously it looks like Nathaniel Essex without the red diamond.

I was thinkin it was Sylar on the top left. Them eyebrows.

 

[SPIDER-MAN-ROX]

I didn't want Adam to die . It's missed opportunity to shed some light on the original 12. I was expecting them to at least have a conversation about what's been going on. He was one of my fav's, i'm gonna miss him. Why do they always kill off the wrong characters on Heroes?

Since they had already established Claire as being invulnerable/immortal they really didn't need to keep a second person around with the same power. Haven't you heard? There can be only one. Highlander reference. They can always include Adam into the backstories/flashback scenes if need be. He was interwoven into the first 2 seasons bit by by bit but pretty much had a whole story arc dedicated to him last season that centered around a sword & him killing Hiro's father so he pretty much served his purpose on the show.

 

[nexgenpresident]

but i dont get peter getting his powers sucked away.. he(peter absorbs powers right).. and then i guess you could say he has to know about the powers first to know he has them...right but way back when in s.1 when future hiro stopped time on the train peter was the only one uneffected..so he should have been uneffected by that too ...(maybe.. im grasping here) idk but ohh well i gotta wait till next week

 

[uchiha_itachi]

so your saying peter isn't effected by hiros time stopping power? that was because he stopped time but left peter as normal to talk to him.

 

[Mikelus]

Since they had already established Claire as being invulnerable/immortal they really didn't need to keep a second person around with the same power. Haven't you heard? There can be only one. Highlander reference. They can always include Adam into the backstories/flashback scenes if need be. He was interwoven into the first 2 seasons bit by by bit but pretty much had a whole story arc dedicated to him last season that centered around a sword & him killing Hiro's father so he pretty much served his purpose on the show.

Yeah right, you bring one of the most interesting characters back just to kill him off..... big fail.
They should've killed Maya instead, she's hated by fans and is useless, that makes sense, not the crap they did with DL and now Adam.

 

[Ion Kenshin]

i personally had no problem with the way that DL went out. i think it served its purpose emotionally for that set of characters

 

[Neptune]

yeah right, you bring one of the most interesting characters back just to kill him off..... Big fail.
they should've killed maya instead, she's hated by fans and is useless, that makes sense, not the crap they did with dl and now adam.

exactly!!!

 

[Gilpesh]

i personally had no problem with the way that DL went out. i think it served its purpose emotionally for that set of characters

It f**king sucked and wasn't good at all.

 

[Ion Kenshin]

the way i saw the death of DL was to drive home the point that after everything that that family had been thru with linderman and dl being stabbed or shot (cant remember) in the 1st season and he died for a foolish reason. i think it drove home the point that in order for Nikki to keep her family and herself from these other people that she becomes she just had to take the pills provided to her from the company. it was something simple that she had to do and she didnt or couldnt. so after ny almost being blwon up, dl getting damn near killed, and having to work out all her inner demons they survived through most if not all of these things together and after all of that DL has to die at the hands of some jealous guy and because nikki couldnt take a pill to control her changes. it makes it all seem like her fault and it is somewhat. thats just the way i viewed his death

 

[Gilpesh]

Um... Niki is a horrible character... and the death seems more like Ali Larter walking up to the writers and saying, "Leonard Roberts is off the show."

And Niki's 'story' ended in season one during the finale. Where she got over Jessica and took her power as her own to save her son... don't try and defend ruining that ending and killing off DL for no reason at all.

 

[SuperT]

D.L's death drove home the fact that no matter what powers you posess, what you've done in your past, or the lives you saved, your life can still be taken from you just like that, and by a normal person no less. One blink and you could be gone.

Why does everything have to be a grandiose, overdramatic death?

Um... Niki is a horrible character...

You're opinion. I think Niki was one of the most compelling characters of the first two seasons. Tragic mother and wife whose just trying to do the best she can for her son, but her world keeps crumbling around her.

Ali Larter is an amzing actress.

 

[Ion Kenshin]

Um... Niki is a horrible character... and the death seems more like Ali Larter walking up to the writers and saying, "Leonard Roberts is off the show."

And Niki's 'story' ended in season one during the finale. Where she got over Jessica and took her power as her own to save her son... don't try and defend ruining that ending and killing off DL for no reason at all.

im not defending anything im just telling you how i viewed the scene...get off your high horse and stop pressing your opinion others you shared yours and i shared mine no need to come off as attacking people so calm the hell down

 

[Gilpesh]

D.L's death drove home the fact that no matter what powers you posess,

His power is to move through objects... he should be the last on the list of "Dying by gunshot".

Oh, see... it was tragic when Linderman shot him... because he jumped in front of the bullet to save Niki. If he died then... that would have been the death that had meaning and showed no matter what the power, you're not immortal... unless that is your power.

Why does everything have to be a grandiose, overdramatic death?

If anything that death in season two was OVERDRAMATIC. The writers kept him alive through the finale and also four months... until finally they had Niki snap again... so he died then because of her actions... that's overdramatic and attempting to be grandiose.

Ali Larter is an amzing actress.

One word, two letters- ha.

 

[Ion Kenshin]

DL did not even have time notice the gun...he was facing nikki and as soon as he turned around the guys shot him...its not like there was a few seconds for dl to notice the gun and then use his power

 

[SuperT]

he should be the last on the list of "Dying by gunshot".

Right because D.L. knew the guy was coming to shoot him and he needed to phase through it, he must be a precog too!

 

[Gilpesh]

Seriously... he can phase fast enough to have a sniper bullet go through him. But when the guy slowly takes out his gun... that's when he gets shot.

Alright...

 

[Ion Kenshin]

thats fine dude you can see it how you see it and i can see it how i see and thats the wonderful thing about life differing views. we can agree to disagree and move on like adults or you can just keep rolling your eyes at me either one works well for me

 

[SuperT]

Seriously... he can phase fast enough to have a sniper bullet go through him. But when the guy slowly takes out his gun... that's when he gets shot.

Alright...

You clearly missed the part about how he picked up on the fact that Jessica was out there with the sniper rifle.

 

[Gilpesh]

You clearly missed the part about how he picked up on the fact that Jessica was out there with the sniper rifle.

You clearly missed the part where the guy took enough time to put the gun right up to DL... before firing... and having blood splash on Niki's face in an oh so cliched image just to shock people... but don't think about it too much or else you'd see how s**ty that plot was.

 

[Ion Kenshin]

are you still watching this show?